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Speaker: I am not writing. You're terrible, Muriel. Talk to me. You gonna do that pogo pogo? You mean talking to the cops? Could I? is a brand new day. No, that's it. It's the vibe Good day fellow always you film lovers and then welcome to another episode of undone southern screens
Speaker: The most photoshopped Australian cinema podcast. I'm Mitch. And I'm Matthew. And Mitch. Yeah. Guess what? It's episode 28. And we're recording this on the 28th. Now this is PodRacing.
Speaker: What's the kid from the pod racing that says wizard? This is so wizard Annie, that guy, that kid. It's been so long since I watched Star Wars episode one. I don't even remember that happens. Well, that's a classic moment. Some kid says this is wizard. This is so wizard Annie. So they know what wizards are in Star Wars? No, but I'm guessing it's their word for. Sick. This is mad. This is radical. Because he's saying it in a relation to Anakin's pod racing machine. I don't know, man. I feel like we also use wizard in a similar way sometimes. Maybe it was because of Phantom Menace. Oh, you reckon? Maybe George Lucas, he sat down in 93. He's like, you know what? I'm going to think of a new cool slang term for the kids to use. For the children. For the lads and lasses of the world. He's like, hey, man, I've influenced culture enough this decade. We might as well. I think it's really interesting that he. goes, oh, Star Wars is a film for children. And then his second trilogy is all politics and boring stuff. And I was like, what kind of child do you think is watching this, George? The child that witnessed 9 -11.
Speaker: all right let me have that yeah i guess this is crazy why are we talking about star wars what are we watching today bitch this is your pick yeah today we are watching and spoiler alert for lake mungo mega mungo you ever watch blazing saddles no i haven't no no that's like one of the movies i've ever seen what are you saying it's one of the movies i've ever seen yeah but just that's just a nothing phrase well no it is a something phrase because when i emphasize the it means that it's like but in the pantheon of good movies that everyone raves about.
Speaker: and And that's one of the movies I've never seen. But when people say that's one of the movies, it's a bit. The bit is that it's just a movie that exists. It's one of the movies. i was Following in George Lucas' footsteps and trying to invent culture, okay? Just let me be. You can't invent culture, man. You have to feel culture. You have to let culture invent you. You know what I'm saying? Anyway, Lake Mungo. Lake Mungo. What a crazy movie. Let me finish my point about Blazing Settles. Go on, go on. There's a character in it called Mungo. Oh, cool. yeah What does he or she or they do? His whole bit is that he's probably... Differently abled. Oh, right. But he's really strong and he can break through walls and stuff. It's pretty funny. It's pretty epic. That's pretty based. Good movie, good movie. Very of its time, um but good movie. That's so brat.
Speaker: What's your intro for Lake Mungo today Mitch? Let's get into it.
Speaker: Describes as found footage and docufiction film, Lake Mungo is like if true crime Netflix documentary was good and didn't profit off the suffering and deaths of real people. Set in 2005 and 2006 near the real point of interest, Lake Mungo, as well as the real Victorian town Ararat, Lake Mungo explores the grief and sorrow dropped on a family who suddenly lose a young member of their group. A 16 -year -old Alice Palmer disappears one day while on a swimming excursion with her family and is found days later washed up in a stormwater drainage basin. tragic the occurrences that appear afterwards seem to further the tragedy as well as just make the whole situation more complicated as doctored footage sex scandals and psychics bring more and more uncertainty around the cause and circumstances of young alice's premature demise the movie premiered at the sydney film festival in 2008 and was shot on site at ararat and lake mungo it had a budget of 1 .7 million dollars but it only made about 29 850 at the box office that's so funny however it is widely considered one of the best found footage films and is popular amongst the critics and horror fans alike it is also the one and only film directed by joel anderson although he was also a producer on late night with the devil oh i know a producer on late night with the devil as well but joel anderson no it's another one another guy but anyway that's a cool little linkage there yeah i did a little wikipedia after i watched this movie as well and i saw when it made thirty thousand dollars the box office yeah that's rough at that point well i mean he did just pack it in that this was the only movie This is really good. Look, mate. Honestly.
Speaker: I know there's the running joke of me not liking horror. I love this movie. This was so sick. It's got the thing where the the horror isn't jump scary and in your face. It's just exceedingly eerie and uncomfortable. It's perfect tension. It's really good. Yeah, it's really all tension based. The most spookiest sequences involve you just vaguely noticing a shape standing in the background of a picture. Of which this happens a lot in this movie. And it happens a lot. There's like one jump scare, I think, and that's kind of a... the end where it's that um footage yeah that's like the big moment though that's like the only like huge yeah yeah you know what i mean and maybe that's why i liked it so much is because it's not super scary it's just eerie i can do eerie i can do tension but it is quite
Speaker: a confronting movie it's really oh yeah it's really depressing there's other scary elements yeah i wouldn't classify scary but just because they happen out of nowhere and you're like oh what is this twist do you know what i mean and that's scary to me there's that moment where they catch the footage of the neighbor in the bedroom just people entering your house is just terrifying exactly oh I kind of wish there was a ghost because that means just a strange man was inside my house um for some reason. And then it turns out they were having sex with her. I know. Hard cuts to that footage. And that's the moment I'm talking about where I was like, whoa. Where we are we? Get have got it get out get out of there. get out of the Stop doing that. Get out of the house. Not like that, Mitch. Ew. Like a dog just being like, get. See, that is a callback to like two episodes ago. Did we do that joke already? Yeah. oh Mitch, speaking of two episodes ago, can I cook you real quick? No, but okay. Mitch, I didn't like this movie because I didn't believe that the people in the movie thought that the ghosts were real. So I knew this was going to come up, actually. Sorry. And I have the easiest, most... simple comeback to that yeah go on go on this film is fiction i just want it to be that the straw man youtube commenter for a second no i get it no This works for me because it's not asking me to believe that it actually happened in the real world, but it's asking me to believe that it happened in this world where ghosts are real. But also for almost the whole movie, the ghosts aren't actually real. Yeah, I see that. The first set of ghostly footage turns out to be doctored by the brother of Alice. Who's also named Matthew, which I thought was very funny. Oh, he is. He did. Yeah, he is. He had good intentions, but overall it kind of just made everything worse. And then the second set of scary footage turns out. It's just a neighbor hunkering down in in the room you trying steal trying to steal sex footage. type yeah yeah And then the third set of footage is the first time where like actual supernatural stuff kind of really starts happening, which and it's the only jump scare in the movie too, which is the the face of drowned Alice when she's filming. At the lake. At the lake, yeah, at night. And then, of course, there's the end of the film where there's that final shot.
Speaker: of probably alice's ghost looking at the remaining family Also, I guess like there's that sequence as well where they splice the mum. and alice's uh seances or not say like meditations together And there's like. huge similarities between like the mom goes oh alice's isn't here in this room and then alice goes my mom can't see me you know well that was pretty spooky too spooky and then also just like very thematic i will talk about the themes in this in a second yeah the theme of you know hiding yourself from your parents hiding yourself from your family um such an interesting theme that ah Yeah, I love it. It's really good. I was looking online about this because I was just curious what the overall, what people think about this. And overall, it's yeah positive. A lot of people who don't like this seem to be the kind of people who went into this expecting it to be your average found footage horror film. They judge the quality of the film on how many times a character jumps at the camera or whatever. This is not spooks. This is eerie. What I like a lot about this movie is it's kind of like a post -horror film in that this is kind of the aftermath of a different horror movie because, you know, We don't find out everything Alice knows because we can't because she's dead. And they say that in the movie. They say there are secrets that she knows and that we'll never know. and So there's just a huge possibility that she was basically just living a horror film for however long that sequence of her life went for, which culminates in her seeing an omen of her own death in the drowned phase and then eventually drowning. And we don't know how or why she drowned. There's no real anything for a lot of it. I thought she did it to herself until the omen. Or like the face. I was like, ah there must be something else at play here then. But we never find out. It's not explained. And I think that it's just so interesting. that We travel the whole movie trying to find this answer, but then we realize that the answer was in the journey, I guess. I know that sounds so cliche being like, the journey was better than the destination. yeah It is that. And I think pairing this mystery with the character study and exploration of coming to terms with the grief on the part of the parents, it's yeah it's really, really compelling. A lot of people talk about characters that haunt them. narrative and this is kind of almost literal in a sense yeah like like before the movie starts alice is dead you barely see her you get glimpses of her you get fake doctored footage of her ghost she's not in the film that much but her presence is all the film's all about her i was spooked i mean i was spooked i was just i was eared out i was like what's going on and it turns out that you know the first ghost
Speaker: The footage is not real. i went Oh, well, where's the rest of this movie going then? What's happening? So just for a little bit of context, I've been a bit of a sleepy boy the past couple of days. are sleepy And so I got about half an hour through this movie last night and I tapped out. I was just too tired. And I ended it just before that revelation happened when we find out that Matthew doctored the footage. And so I came back to it today. and I got the revelation and I was like, oh!
Speaker: um like No, because it was real. It was like a prolonged questioning in my mind overnight. I waited for that reveal overnight. that I went to work. I was typing on my computer, editing my little videos, thinking about all these paranormal activity that's going on. And then I get this reveal and I'm like, wait a second, you swindled me.
Speaker: Yeah, a little bit schemey here. and i But I thought his rationale for it was just as compelling. Well, that's the thing. It's like he wasn't trying to be a prick. yeah Arguably, he probably did make things worse, but he was trying to help his mom, apparently. And then yeah the mom goes, I don't know if I fully believe that. I think he just kind of did that. She says, like, I don't know why he did that. I don't think he knows either. is like the thing Again, we don't get an answer that allows the audience to infer something in their mind. And what I thought is, It's just a way of him processing his grief. Well, that's it that's what I thought. it's's He was... creating something where if it was reality, she wouldn't be gone still. She'd still kind of be around ah in a way. Like she's not ah alive and he can't reconcile with that, but he... You can at least pretend like, oh, if a ghost is still here, then she's not gone. It's a real strength of this movie that even though it doesn't have the scares that other horror films have, you're still, as an audience member, questioning things. The psychiatrist, Ray. Psychic. Psychic, sorry. Psychic. Ray. I thought it was going to be like a turncoat. He's been orchestrating this type thing or something like that. He was going to have some there was sonna be some sort of reveal. And it was. It was, but it wasn't. The same kind. It wasn't what I was thinking. No, it wasn't. as dramatic as what you were thinking just because like oh he's spending a lot of time with matthew and oh you know he's like getting very involved in the lives of these people and that type of thing and we eventually find out that yeah he did
Speaker: treat alice before she passed away yeah and again reasons for that discuss you know what i mean it's like why did he come back to help the family it opens so many different talking points this is the type of movie where if you want to go see it at the cinema you would be like eating food and chatting about the movie for like an hour and a half i feel like it really um opens itself up for discussion and it opens up which means it's great for this podcast great for podcasting great great for casting what did you think of the location of ararat and Lake Munger. I didn't realize it was real until you mentioned it, but I think that's really cool. You didn't know Ararat was real? Well, I don't know. It sounds like a pretty funny name. It sounds like Ballarat, but someone's going, Ararat. That's what I thought. I thought they were thinking of like Ballarat. And when I saw like the vistas of the town, I'm like, oh yeah, this looks like Ballarat or Bendigo or something like that. but um Where is it? Ararat sounds like something I would say offhandedly. It's west of Melbourne, like northwest. oh That's cool. Kind of just west -west actually. This whole film just feels like one big long current. affair story or like a Four Corners episode and I think it is very Australian even just the way that it's like constructed where it's like oh we're gradually revealing more but little did they know that Ray was ah treating Alice the whole time and it's yeah I was half expecting like Ali Langdon or Tracy Grimshaw to just like do a walking piece to camera down the street describing what we had just seen or something like that you love a good Tracy Grimshaw reference hidden it back you didn't know who she was for the longest time but we've indoctrinated you mitchell i just don't really know who she is our claim to fame is that my dad
Speaker: was a lab partner to Tracy Grimshaw. So it goes, I nodded at Missy Higgins once yeah and your dad's lab partner was Tracy Grimshaw. Those are our ties to Australian media. God, we're like celebrities in our own right. Anyway, here's one thing I didn't like too much about Lake Mungo. Oh no, he didn't like a thing in the movie? I did. I'm shocked. I didn't like the dad's performance.
Speaker: I thought it was too lackadaisical. No, I think it sells it. It's very Aussie. That's it. I feel like I've seen seven guys like him on the news and like one broadcast once. I 100 % agree. He just stays at that performance the whole movie, though. That's the only thing. I see why you wouldn't like like it, but I think it really works. I just needed some sort of elevation as the the stakes were elevating, as the plot was elevating. well By the end, I just couldn't take it. Seriously. I think for me, the reason why I didn't it need the elevation is because to me, this has already happened to them. They're retelling everything that's already happened. So it's not like.
Speaker: they're experiencing the elevation they're just telling us a story that's already happened i think the only thing that occurs after that is them leaving the house at the very very end that's why i was fine with it because i mean the mom's pretty chilled too she let some tears go a couple of times. but She does, but it's like, she's not like, if I was the dad and and lost the daughter, I feel like anything would just sort of set me off again. I'm choosing not to believe it.
Speaker: no no um and same with the boyfriend as well i'm just like this man is way too casual okay the boyfriend i think maybe was a bit too chill yeah especially like when he like they ask him point blank how do you feel that your girlfriend was having sex with the neighbor and he was like oh kind of rough it was just like you or i don't know yeah i didn't really believe it look i love aussie carefree nature as much as the next guy and i think it works for the most part i'm not saying it it's like i just thought it was funny how as all of this freaky stuff was going on as more of the the supernatural puzzle was being revealed both the dad and the boyfriend were like this was pretty insane if you think about it yeah you couldn't really with this footage you kind of couldn't really deny what was going on Yeah, yeah, yeah. So maybe they're just compartmentalized. I feel it felt too real for me to think of it as an actual fault. in the film. it Maybe be even it's a commentary on the disassociated nature of Australian men. How we just don't give a shit about anything. It's possibly a commentary on the the way that a lot of Australian men are exceedingly disassociated from their own feelings. and That's true. We, along with the rest of society, have got this thing where men don't show emotion. They're just rugged guys who cop it on the chin. Crying's women's job. you know Stuff like that. Yeah, all that. Maybe it's something... It's something that but should be left in the weird mob. territory it's a hard argument to make because the film doesn't go further into that in any way a lot of the rest of the film it's all subtextual i think that's it i think it's just there to sell the authenticity of this because that's the thing that's really spooky about this is just kind of how authentic the whole thing feels the way it switches from the different formats i think they filmed it on both film and digital the way it switches between it using the different types of cameras is really good i'm not a found footage guy i actually find found footage films usually quite frustrating to deal with I haven't watched a ton of them. But this one.
Speaker: I think the way it was done, and especially since it was doing a lot of stuff that I usually find quite irritating, the fact that the quality of how it does it, and including the changing between digital to film, so so the quality of the actual footage you're looking at changes drastically depending on the situation. I thought it was really good. like There's a part where it's filmed on a 2006 flip phone, and it looks garbage, but it just sells it. It's it's yeah authentic. like It feels real. Yeah, that's why it feels... That's the thing is, if it didn't feel real, I'd be feeling, this sucks. This is a... If they just shot it on like a 4K like film camera and then just added like a digital grain in post, you'd be like, well, this is kind of hokey. This of doggy. They put in the effort and I'm sorry, film roll it. They did the Christopher Nolan following thing where they proved that they can make a real movie by adding the film segments, you know, the interviews where it looks beautiful. Like the lighting is great. It's all perfectly framed. They let it linger, that type of thing. And then they intercut these. lower quality snippets using real equipment. And inadvertently it's cheaper to make because, you know, you have these reduced resources, but it also works thematically. So they've been able to have their cake and eat it too. I do love eating the cake I have. But the cake is a lie, Portal.
Speaker: 20. Ken? Oh, it's just funny needs to just say a reference and then before anyone can even consider what the reference is from, you just say what the reference is. Like, you go, I'd buy that for a dollar, Robocop. What did you think about...
Speaker: the ending itself because obviously the very, very ending or or the climax or where we, where we actually get the supernatural reveal. yes Some would argue that it isn't a massively satisfying. payoff I think when I think about it, it.
Speaker: is technically the weakest element of the whole film, but I was so invested and I found it so impactful in the moment when I was watching it that I kind of don't mind it.
Speaker: especially because the face just appears and it freezes on it for ages and and they're just talking about it and they're like that's the face i saw when i identified my daughter's um body and then it cuts to another photo of the actual drowned body of yeah alice yeah
Speaker: It kind of puts you in the shoes of Alice being like, what would it feel like to see your face waterlogged and like that? What kind of situation are you in? It kind of puts in for a lot of that footage because she's on a party trip with some friends to the lake. She doesn't look happy. so upset during not upset but she's just uncomfortable and full on in all the footage and then you find out why you know she saw this horrible thing and she was doing some sort of ritual to apparently because she knew she was gonna die it just adds to the sadness of the whole situation so even though i do think it's possibly the weakest element of the whole film i don't mind it it's like one part of the film has to be the weakest and that just happens to be it to me it's a reveal it doesn't feel like the best reveal there are a million ways that this question could have been answered yeah and i don't know it just seems a bit vague but again Again, the whole movie's been vague, so maybe I'm just being a little hating stinker. Ooh, so stinky. You're allowed to not like it. I don't mind. I don't even not like it. I'm just completely neutral with it when I wish I was like, ha! That makes more sense. Yeah. I do really like. the final interspliced psychic appointments between the mom and the daughter and that because that's just once you said it's thematic because it's the whole movie it's the whole movie it's the mom doesn't see her own daughter right in front of her and the daughter is standing there waiting to be recognized by her mom and the mom just walks out and leaves and in this situation the footage we're watching it's she walks out and leaves the house forever because they're moving i didn't think of that yeah like it's so dark and then right after that they drive away in the Subaru Forester nice And then the final thing we see right after the back and forth, they drive away and then we get a. picture that's probably been taken after alice's death and it's of the three and it's a picture we've seen i think earlier as well and it just slowly pans into a corner of the frame where there's a window and i think that's meant to be alice's room yeah yeah i believe so and alice and she's in there well something's in there that looks a lot like the ghost in quotation mark that we've been seeing throughout the documentary documentary um the film yeah well it feels like it you know i just think that was really powerful because she's just stuck in that room and her mom left while she was still in there you know it's it's dark talk to your kids man Talk to your kids, talk to your parents. That's the thing, right? They're like, oh, you know, we were kind of close. We were close with her. But clearly we weren't that close, you know? It's just the realization that you don't know anyone, I guess. 100%. You've got to keep trying to keep reaching out. I think it comes from the self as well. You've got to be willing to... You've got to bear yourself, yeah. Not to get too deep and cringe on pod, but I've very recently been more open and honest with my own parents about stuff I'm thinking about, stuff I'm going through. I think I've been better off for it. And I think that.
Speaker: Well, watching this film, it felt very therapeutic in this way because it is a film about bearing your scars, telling people what you're really thinking. And if you don't tell people what you're really thinking, then they're going to come to rumour and speculation. And that's basically what 80 % of this movie is. What was this person thinking? Yeah, what was going on in her head? I think in modern society, we become so guarded behind screens, behind inner thoughts. Well, I mean, the pandemic.
Speaker: Screwed a lot of things up. Bloody Daniel Andrews. No, that's not it. No, no. Yeah, Daniel Andrews caused my male loneliness epidemic. What a claim that is.
Speaker: Anyway, and this was in 2008 as well. This was 20 years ago. So it's one of those movies where the message is more relevant than ever. And I think it's pretty based for that. If we think about the time this was made, a lot of people who would have been making films at that time would be Gen X. They had baby boomers, who and baby boomers were the sons and daughters of um war veterans who were not emotionally stable at all because PTSD. It's a time we've coined only very recently. There's a lot of generational trauma in this that yeah I think you could unpack if you know. a little bit better about history than both of us did and recognize the kind of generations and who's making what but the generational trauma just perpetuates forward and it's kind of something unfortunate it's going to continue on until we manage a real societal upheaval call for the revolution on pod bits I'm always calling for a revolution. Guys, join my join my Marxist revolution. Join my Discord server. Join my Discord server. it' It's universal. Undying themes that.
Speaker: It's about connection and it's about while lack of connection. does to someone and how isolation
Speaker: can pretty much kill you. Especially here in Australia. We're an isolated country. We are isolated. And I think that makes this movie even stronger because I think we feel at isolation quite often. I don't think a lot of us know it. I don't think a lot of us could even pinpoint it. I don't think I could even really tell you exactly what it does for me. But I think we all feel how isolated we are sometimes. Yeah. It's just as a country. All we have is New Zealand and they're still far away from us as well. And we don't even want them. No, we want them. We want them. We love New Zealand. We love New Zealand. Interesting theme. Interesting subject matter. Interesting execution as well. And I think that's why we're talking about it. Because it does an interesting job. Does a job that is of the interest. Take a shot. every time I said interesting in that last sentence, you will die. Unless you have a stronger constitution than both of us. Unless you're from Australia in which you can drink like a tank. I'm pretty sure that's overblown. I'm sure most European co countries can drink us under the table. What were you expecting when I pitched this last week? I was expecting a really scary movie that I was going to hate. Instead, what what do you how do you feel about this? It's like a medium level tension film that I actually really love and the themes spoke to me and um thank you and i i appreciate you for picking something that you thought i would enjoy that's definitely what i did i wasn't you know disappointed that it wasn't scarier at all he's like damn it the bit's dead when you finally pick um
Speaker: Moulin Rouge, I'll find another horror movie to get you to watch. Well, after watching Samson and Delilah last week, I don't know if I want to show you Moulin Rouge, because I'm going to say, like, this is my favorite movie, and you're going to be like, it was good. And I'll be like, I'm leaving. What's wrong with saying something's good? It's fine. I'm just overblowing it for the comedy of it all. I was going to say something, but I forgot. Well, what you can say is what the most Australian thing about Lake Mungo is. like i always get two things and i can never really pick between them brother does a live ab test to see which one will get the best audience attention i do i do i'd like to pick it so my first one was when the psychic goes he calls himself australia's wog psychic of choice yeah that was great that was pretty good
Speaker: And then the last thing was when the Subaru Forester drove off at the end of the movie, just the fact that they were in a Subaru Forester was exceedingly Australian. They were in a Subaru Forester. They stop at the light to turn left. The guy doesn't indicate and turns left anyway. That's awesome. That was the most Australian thing. We should lock that in. Subaru Forester not indicating on a left turn into traffic. That's the most Australian thing of all time. There would be more Australians if it was BMW, I guess. Or Holden. Holden Commodore. No, they drive normally. Holden people drive normally, don't they? I don't know. We haven't made them for a while, so. Holden. Holden. Hold done. More like it. oh Done with Holden. That's a Herald Sun quote right there. You know what I mean? Herald Sun headline. Get me a job, boys and girls. Get me a job. Matthew. Yeah, Mitch. What's up? It is your turn to pick the film for next week. It absolutely is. Do you have...
Speaker: A pick? I don't have a pick for a film, but I can tell you where we're going next week. Yeah. Well.
Speaker: A month late, we're going to be going to the opening night of the Melbourne International Film Festival, everybody. Once again, lightning has struck and we are nowhere near it. We are on the lightning rods at all. We saw it off in the distance and we're running off to where it hit. You loved the last one with Nick. So we're going to do it again, baby. And we're going to do it in Mitch's hometown. So he actually has something to say. I actually am going this time. We're going to the opening night.
Speaker: of myth it's wicker with olivia coleman yep that's the opening film it's gonna be a great out um uh we haven't recorded yet so i can't guarantee that but um are we doing it with um and who knows a special guest may be joining us if we just came from maybe lock that in yeah maybe fingers crossed we'll see if we all say his name he'll have here if you zoom in on the under southern screens podcast cover art on the woggest cover you will see a photo of warwick thornton
Speaker: And a camera. And a camera. It'd be really funny if we hid Nick on our woggers. um We'll do it on this one. We'll do it on this episode. So yeah, um next week.
Speaker: wicker myth milk myth wicker wicker myth that's the one awesome sauce and if you're excited Give us a little or yeah comment or a write. on um Instagram. threads and tiktok and give us an email under southern screens pod .com no .com that we don't have a website but your' something but youtube oh well you can subscribe to us on youtube but like you know
Speaker: You can also comment on stuff on YouTube. You can comment on just do whatever you want, mate. I don't know. I don't know. I give up. Do whatever you want. I'm leaving. End of the pod. Leave us a five -star review, please. I'm begging. I'm pleading. Leave us a five -star review. You can say whatever you want in the actual review, but just give us five stars, please. I'm begging for those stars. I'll do anything for them within reason.
Speaker: and if in reason within Within reason. Brother held up a peace sign with that one. That was crazy. ah It was more like a... That. Oh, okay. I'm not a crook. Richard Nixon? grill blue Richard Nixon. Two eyes, if I can spare them. Is that another Richard Nixon quote? No, that's Gandalf. And keep an eye on those southern scurries.
Speaker: Thanks for listening to another episode of Under Southern Screens. We'll be back next week to talk more films down under. We just want to attribute that our opening title is Heavy Duty by Zoo and our closing title is Heavyweight by Fell Creek. Thanks so much for listening and Mitch and I will see you in the next episode. See you next time.
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