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Speaker: Welcome to the Runner's Podium Podcast. So happy and honored to have Seth Hill joining us today, host of the Stupid Questions Podcast, also endurance athlete Ironman.
Speaker: Thanks so much for joining, Seth. That was thank you dave awesome to be on your pod, and now I'm glad to have you on mine. Yeah, for sure, man. I'm looking forward to it. going to have you on mine again, actually. It's been too long. I really look forward to that.
Speaker: ah let's jump right in. So we're going to run through the categories. Your top three most memorable running moments. That's really hard. um I'll start with the first one. I think that is probably a memory that I made this past October. I was doing Ironman California.
Speaker: And for those who don't know... um on the Ironman circuit, Ironman California is probably the fastest or one of the fastest races in North America. It's just pancake flat, downriver swim, and the run is all pretty flat as well.
Speaker: ah Got out on the run halfway through and I for years have kind of battled off and on. If I neglect my strength training, especially doing my big Ironman builds, sometimes I can have an IT tb band wake up issue.
Speaker: started to have that, um, like mile 13 this marathon where I, was really bummed because I hadn't felt it in a long time. um It had been months and I had neglected a lot of strength training. But anyway, it started to show up and i had to stop a few times, like, you know, stretching the piriformis and like holding the knee up to the chest, you know, as I'm watching athletes go by me.
Speaker: um But what made it so memorable was um just it' probably actually a couple years before this, I went to this like retreat three day weekend that gave me basically some tools to like how to shift your mindset and in moments of adversity.
Speaker: you know, as if this is like really adversity, but it was tough. um And I didn't want to walk. So anyway, I started like saying out loud kind of this belief or this just, I guess, mantra, whatever you want to call it, that this is a gift.
Speaker: This is it's going to be okay. Like this is a gift. I'm happy out here. um and I was actually saying like, I love my daughter too. i hadnton I have a five month old now. I hadn't known her yet, but I knew she was, you know, inside cooking. So I kind of focused all about that. Anyway, um the IT tb band issue didn't like fully go away. But it went away enough to where like the pain didn't bother me enough where I could run through it. And I looked down at my watch and actually watched um over the course of like, you know, a few minutes, my heart rate started to go down. My pace actually quickened like 20 to 30 seconds per mile pace. Now it's an Ironman, so I'm not like running any blazing speeds, but it was getting back down to like the 730 range that I wanted to shoot for.
Speaker: So that was like probably the biggest one. I was like, wow, this is amazing. Like I'm, I can really affect my physical body with my, medical physical thoughts or you know just like the mental what's going on upstairs that's so cool the power of positive thought right there yeah seriously i told to another one of my friends who's a professional athlete he's like i haven't tried that ill have to try that so we'll see if it works for anybody else i was also running slow enough to where it probably possible to happen so anyway um so that's one um another really good and running memory um This is actually not a particularly good memory, but it was a memory that taught me a lot. um
Speaker: I was probably about two and a half years into like this whole triathlon journey and I had just gotten a coach for the first time in that year, I believe. And my coach was like, hey, you know we're going to do a 13 mile run today. It's a pretty hard effort. It's very hot. This was in Tennessee. And um he said, make sure, you know, get this in early in the morning or at the at the very least um in the evening.
Speaker: And for whatever reason, I was working that day and I was like, I'm just going to go out in the middle of the day and give it a shot. Now, normally, I think that maybe you could survive if you did it near an area of water. But I did like this 13 mile loop or attempted this 13 mile loop out in the middle of Nowhereville, Tennessee, and had like probably i don't know, 200 milliliters of water.
Speaker: Anyway, as you can imagine, it went, I got in, it was like 95 degrees outside, so hot. I got so cooked within four miles that I ended up just finding this church that had some bushes. And luckily I found behind the bushes, a water spigot. I just turned it on and just laid kind of in the mud puddle, just kind of sipping on this water for a while. And then eventually i just turned around because it's like, there's no way So I i learned a lot about like what not to do. um oh yeah Don't procrastinate when it comes to heat because you're going to literally bury yourself. um
Speaker: So there was a kind of tossing up a few other ones in my head. um Two years ago in February, I went to Tucson, Arizona to go hang out with some of my professional triathlete friends who I will say are all leaps and bounds way ahead of me in fitness. So I had no business really trying to hang with them. But were there there were certain things I could. So anyway, they were doing a track Tuesday.
Speaker: And I went out with them um and there was a girl leading in the front and another guy that was like behind her. And I was kind of trailing in and we were doing twelve hundreds and they were running these 1200s at like 520 pace. And like, that's way fast for me for 1200,
Speaker: um ah Multiple ones, albeit. And I was falling off the back by like the third effort. And across the track were some of the other friends. And one of them, his name was Elliot Bach. Shout outed to Elliot.
Speaker: He yelled at me and was like, Seth, latch on. And I don't know what it was, but it was just the fact that somebody thought I could do it or believed that I could do it that gave me that boost to like really dig deep and latch on. um And it really opened up and That whole week really that I spent in Tucson opened me up to like realize like, wow, I can actually do a lot more. And it has to do a lot with who you surround yourself with. So I learned kind of that twofold lesson of whoever you surround yourself with, um first of all, they can really have the direct impact to help you believe and extract the most out of yourself. So um that's probably the third one. That one may be actually the most impactful. It'd be a toss up between the first and the third one. But yeah, those are the three for me.
Speaker: I love those. You know, people often gravitate towards more race moments, but I love yours are more like these kind of moments of personal growth and realization. Yeah. Super cool. What about your top three running shoes? You know, I just recently, when I first started out, I was running in like these crazy, what were they called? Newtons? Do you ever hear of the Newton shoe? think I've heard of them. had like these weird five looking raised or four looking raised spots in the bottom of the shoe. shoote Anyway, it was supposed to be like put more pressure on your forefoot and the bone structure and let your pads come around. it Anyway, um won't recommend those, but that's just what came to mind. And I used to wear on and like all these weird shoes that I would buy off of these websites like Steep and Cheap or Sierra Trading Post that I could just find cheap shoes.
Speaker: Then when I started to like really get into running, I was like, okay, maybe I should find something like consistent. Cause I'd done the zero drop. I'd done like the five finger shoes and all this stuff. Um, but I really started to like the Saucony brands and they have, and I wish they still made them.
Speaker: Uh, the Saucony freedom fours were like my favorite shoe ever to run in. Cause they lasted forever. So I only weigh like 125, 130 depending on the time of the season So I can get four or 500 miles out of a pair of shoes pretty easy. These guys could get like close 650 miles.
Speaker: It was just next level. But it's so sad because after the fourth generation, it's like the quality just went downhill. And I've noticed that actually with several shoe brands, after like the fourth iteration of a shoe, in my opinion, at least in the trainers, they've like seemed to just like, I don't know, like sundown them and they start putting less quality materials and stuff. And it just doesn't last as long.
Speaker: So anyway, the Saucony Freedom 4s I think are one of my favorite pairs. My most recent favorite pair have been actually New Balance, the Rebel 4s trainers. Not the carbon-plated one, not the Elite, whatever it's called. um Fuel Cell or whatever. Yeah, not that. But the 4, the Generation 4 Rebel fours are just so nice. I don't like a super stable shoe. i like more of the supple...
Speaker: softer foam and again because i'm lighter and smaller it just works well with me even though i have a bad ankle don't like the stable shoes um so those are like my favorite trainers and then my all-time favorite shoe and this is a race shoe is the same i actually can't remember if it's called the rope it's a super i think it's the this the super comp super comp elite version four though it's like the the one that looks exactly like my trainer basically but it's like the amped up one That has been the best. I race in that too. My favorite shoe. Because I've run in like the Nike Alpha Fly, Super Fly, whatever, try all the fly, this fly, that. They're not my favorite. I think Nike's really fallen off the bandwagon. But those have been...
Speaker: Pretty amazing. I don't know if I'll ever go back because I did just ah a little 10K in them and I feel like I wasn't even trying at all and I got like a really good time for the back half just because I was running with a friend and I decided to close down to the first. By the way, this is so crazy. Little Redding, okay, where I live, it's like maybe, I don't know, 50,000 people. They had this 10K run race where the prize purse for winning was like $150 and fifty bucks and like no one entered. So I ran with my friend and I was like, I could see first place on the last three miles. was like dude, I think I'm going to have to just go get this.
Speaker: And it was with those shoes. And I closed down that gap and just like went flying by the guy. You took it? I took it. I got a hundred that my first and last professional payment win. That's big time. Yeah, that's big time. yeah I mean, it's a pair of shoes. Yeah.
Speaker: That's awesome. so What about your top ah running moments, moments that didn't go as planned? m It's interesting you say as planned. So when I first started doing triathlon, um for whatever reason, especially in like swimming, swimming usually is like the hardest part for people to get. Swimming became very naturally to me.
Speaker: And biking kind of did as well. And then running. And I just started to like progress really fast when I first started. Just... like shaving off 10-15 minutes every race and being able to hit new goal times and this and the other. And so I got really used to that for like the first year and a half, two years as I was developing. This was like when I was like 24, 25. No, not even like 26, 27. What am saying? This is like 2020. So not even that long ago. And, I got into this mindset like, oh, I'm always just going to have that happen. I'm always going to kind of like one up myself.
Speaker: And i had one race where that did not happen at all. It was Ironman 70.3 Chattanooga. I had at that point become so married to the numbers in terms of like power numbers and pacing numbers that,
Speaker: that when I got out on the bike, like after like just 10 minutes, you know, you're doing a swim. So when you're swimming in a triathlon and you get ah upright after being, you know, prone swimming in the water for 30 minutes or whatever, your heart rate jacked anyway. So I never let my heart rate settle. Even in transition, I was just blitzing it to the bike. I get on the bike. I couldn't get hit my power numbers.
Speaker: and i was so upstairs in my head like that this was a bad race that like an it band injury i hadn't felt in forever came back out of nowhere and i just like before i even started decided that i was going to fail so that didn't go how i planned at all i cried at the end of the race like my mom and sister and wife were there and i was just like oh Yeah, just totally crushed. And I i was so focused, again, on just like the performance and not enjoying the day that that really robbed me.
Speaker: So then I fast forward. That was in May. In September, i did my first Ironman. And I really did some work mentally, like no matter what happens, I'm going to enjoy the pain or whatever. And that was like the most amazing, beautiful experience I've ever had in my life of any Ironman I've ever done. It was just...
Speaker: A bunch of family and friends came, elation. um So anyway, not to digress too much, but um that moment, that was definitely a top moment for did not go high planned.
Speaker: um I will actually say Ironman Chattanooga. I was getting out on the bike about 10 miles in. i went over some railroad tracks and my chain dropped. That dip wasn't how I planned to go, and that kind of scared me. But I was proud of myself because I was like i calm, cool, collected. I got off my bike, reset the chain, got back on. And I actually the fastest Chattanooga bike split that day, so that was cool. Wow. Yeah. So i was, I mean, in the amateur field, mind you.
Speaker: You were cruising? Yeah, were cruising. We actually went through, like, ah I kid you not, basically a tornado cell. Because it was, some guys actually watched the guy get blow off blown off the road. It was nuts. Yeah.
Speaker: That's amazing they didn't like cancel the race or anything like that. In the south, man, it's like you can have it be really fine and then 30 seconds later like this strong storm comes out nowhere and just blows through. and It was such a small pocket. yeah They just blow through, yeah. so so That happened.
Speaker: I did one. It was Augusta. and I did this off of like doing an Ironman a week before because I had something to prove. And I thought, this is when high carb started to really be pushed. Like you gotta do high carb every 120 grams an hour, rah, rah, rah Again, I'm only 120 pounds. so you need to do the math. It's like for body weight is probably what we should be shooting for. Anyway, I like threw in the, for this race, like I hadn't trained at all. And they say, always try all your new stuff on race day. Right. So I i filled my bottle bottles up to like 85 grams an hour when I'd probably been taking like 50 at max. I got so sick on the bike. And then I caught, I was actually in the back of the women's field.
Speaker: on the run and i like just vomited amongst these ladies and i caused one of them to vomit so like that did not go as planned because that we were all just feeling sick but yeah that's those are some moments that did not go as planned good one what about but beyond um shoes your top three pieces of essential gear uh definitely my watch Watch is huge for especially triathlon, um but even running too. I use it less now as like a I'm married to whatever paces and heart rates or whatever that I'm trying to hit, um more of just like a guide or ah confirmation, I guess, of what I but probably already know. Because after you get some real experience of doing...
Speaker: athletics, especially endurance athletics, you get to know your body in a way that's like, oh, that makes sense. Or like, I'm expecting this to go this way or whatever. Like you just really start to understand. Um, so that's a pretty key piece of equipment. Garmin. Yeah.
Speaker: Yep. Yeah. I have the 970. I had my 955. Shout out to Garmin. I had my 955 for years since it like first came out and it broke three times and they just gave me a new one. So that was awesome. Yeah. They're good customer service, right? They are. And they last. I mean, dude, I think I've had my 935 since the dawn of 2020. Yeah.
Speaker: since like the dawn of twenty twenty yeah Yeah. Like, so you know, how many thousands and thousands of miles, and you know, biking and, you know, all my running and swimming and still, still keeps yeah cooking. Yeah. Yeah. They're great. Honestly, show the Garmin.
Speaker: Hopefully they'll a sponsor for you. um And what's another one? um Actually, really good like running tights. like I recently moved to running tights for especially my longer runs just to avoid any chafing because for years, like I would just get chafed to like every time, every Friday, do long run, go take a shower and just scream in pain because it's going to burn so much. So now do really are like running tights. um Solomon has some really amazing...
Speaker: um like ultra running short tights that I really love. and then a track Smith, but man, they are expensive. dude For like, tell me about real for just like, cause I half tights are expensive. They're crazy. It's like, makes no sense, but they work well. So, yeah um, so that's a second piece of equipment. I think there are, I'd really lean on is, um, sunglasses,
Speaker: Especially for running because like biking is one thing you can kind of get away with all kinds of glasses because you're not up and down movement. But yeah, a good pair of Oakley's honestly. It's like they're going to stay on your face. um You can't beat that. Like a good pair of running sunglasses for sure.
Speaker: Yes. What about your top three running pet peeves? It could be about like your personal training or about other runners or yes social media. Yeah, this is so wrong to say, but like I judge people's running form.
Speaker: so This is before I even did athletics. I would be like in like in triathlon and stuff. I would just look at people walking down the street and be like, look at their gait or like they're not walking with their feet pointing forward. Like, or do you'd see like so the, every once a while I see that person with the back of their shoe, like the back heel, like worn, like, like there's like a triangle or just worn off to the side. It's like, how is that? That's gotta be bad for your spine. So I, I, hate that's a pet peeve. Like I really wish people would take more,
Speaker: I don't know, time to a adjust posture. And sometimes there's actual physical ailments. I understand that. But a lot of people are just lazy. Like seeing someone drag their flip-flops across the ground, it's like, pick your feet up.
Speaker: Yeah, so that's that's a pet peeve. Okay, so I've gone running with people who, I guess they just don't run with people often, but especially trail running. I like always do single file pretty much because it's like single track stuff.
Speaker: I've went running with a couple people and I just have to keep me like, like, quit trying to run beside me, like riding either in front of me or behind me because I'm going to hit my arm on a bush or something like that. And I also just don't like running behind people, to to be honest, especially when it's cold out because I can see their breath and I don't want to feel like I'm breathing in their carbon while I'm trying to like breathe in oxygen. So that's that's a probably ah a pretty big pet peeve when it comes to running. Got you. Yeah.
Speaker: I actually do have one more. um there' is a there's i' I've had this happen several times to me. I don't know if it's necessarily pet peeve. And if any of these people are listening, I still have love for you. But I've met a few people where they I'm like doing a hard workout and then they like see me running, i doing the hard workout, and they like try to catch up with me. And then like I'm in the middle of an effort and they're like trying to talk to me. And I'm like, hey I'm not really in a talking mood. like That's a pet peeve when you're trying to like get something done. so Well, yeah.
Speaker: right. What about your top three favorite races all time? um First one has to be Ironman 70.3 World Championships in 2024. four it was in Taupo, New Zealand.
Speaker: Wow. Cool. Yeah. Because let me tell you, dude, I literally, so you swim in like Taupo, which is like this spring fed, you used to be like a volcanic lake.
Speaker: and on the beaches they're geothermal so the water is cold but in certain sections of the beaches you can dig in the sand like a foot and like steaming hot piping water comes out so you can make yourself a hot tub on the beach and then jump in this so obviously this is a cool place the water was crystal clear i went and did the swim dude and it was you could see 25 feet down to the bottom crystal clear i was literally crying tears of joy like when i was i was doing this swim portion was my fastest swim of all time by the way um in a lake and it's just so beautiful so like did that the bike course is amazing as you can imagine new zealand in december it's like their springtime or whatever um just absolutely beautiful and then the run was just i mean it's a world championship race so there's spectators are on every inch of the course so it's just electric atmosphere um so yeah that's that's definitely my top
Speaker: top of all time. You know, I've raced a lot, and I guess now even around the world, but a lot across the United States. I would have to say Chattanooga's 70.3 course, which they're having the world championship there next year, which is gonna be cool. nice um Yeah, since 2018. It's been since they've had one in North America even. So anyway, um that course for sure. You asked courses, right? Yeah. Just favorite races. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Races. One other, I'll say is this is actually a running race.
Speaker: If I lived still in Tennessee, I'd go do it. Cause I want it for three year years in a row. Um, there's this place called Fort mountain, Georgia. It's like this big mountain and in, in North Georgia. Um,
Speaker: And they have a 10k there. It's called the Mystery Mountain Marathon and and excuse me, not 10k, 10 miler. And it's so beautiful because you start on like this mountain lake and then you run basically the outskirt edges of the mountain on these beautiful trails. And I've seen black bears while doing it wow and other stuff. So yeah, it's just absolutely beautiful. I love the mountains. so That sounds epic. Yeah, it is I mean, that kind of dovetails into the top three, but the next one is the top three favorite places to run.
Speaker: i i love the mountains. So if I could go, I don't do this one very often. In fact, I've only done it once. But in just north of Bend, to Oregon, i think north, there's this place called South Sister, which is one of the big mountains there. I don't know if you've ever been. Yeah, they have the three sisters. Yeah, so South Sister is... i went in July with a friend and we did like this 25, 24-mile slash run to the top and around. And then we glissaded down the...
Speaker: done this snow on one side and ran through some Alpine lakes. And it was just like, this isn't real. Is this real? Like, wow. Yeah, that was definitely top running spot. If I could go back there. I really honestly like running where we live. I can, I have it. You know how when you live somewhere, like you get an idea for, okay, well, if I go do this loop, it's an exact five miles. Or if I go do this out and back, it's exactly 10. I had this beautiful 10 mile section where I can run from my house down this huge hill.
Speaker: down a couple hundred feet. And then i basically get on the river trail and it just follows the river. And what's really cool about Redding is in the summer, even it it gets very hot. I can get 112 degrees or more in the day.
Speaker: But because we have Lake Shasta, it's so Shasta dam is actually the second largest dam in North America, bigger than Hoover dam in terms of concrete used. And it's really deep. So the water comes out 300 feet below what the water level is. So you have a constant flow of water in the Sacramento River that comes out at like 50 degrees year round.
Speaker: And when you run ah run along the river, it makes the temperature of the air drop by probably, i mean, it's noticeable 10, 15 degrees maybe. So I love running along there. um There's tons of deer. There's tons of turkeys. like There'll be a herd or flock, whatever you say, of 20 turkeys gobbling about. So I really like that run. um So I'd put that actually as number two. cool and number three, i used to where I used to live actually in Chattanooga, Tennessee, we had this really beautiful loop at my house. It was like a five-mile loop that just kind of –
Speaker: went through two states and four counties. You could run 10 miles, five, 10 miles, and go through four counties and two states. So, um yeah. Georgia? Yeah. what What are the other? Yeah, so it's Tennessee and Georgia, and then it was Hamilton County, Cleveland County, ah Whitfield, and...
Speaker: Clay County. I can't remember the other one, but so cool it was cool. Yeah. Yesterday when I was running, I was like right on the border of Massachusetts and Rhode Island. Okay. I think I ran back and forth like five, six times. That's awesome. In mass, in Rhode Island, in massachusetts Massachusetts, back in Rhode Island. That's awesome.
Speaker: That's really Yeah. You're in New York, right? Yeah, I'm in New York City. I was out of town for a couple days. Okay. So really quick, really quick, if you don't mind. i actually just interviewed a guy, ah Eric Zaltas, who um lives in New York. And he told me about this, basically, i think it was a rail to trail thing where you can go through, it starts like around the Bronx and we'll go all the way up into Canada, like this crazy. Yeah, the Empire State Trail. Dude, I want to go. That's where I was like, yeah, that reminded me of that. i was like, you live near some cool stuff. I'm like, I would love to check that out.
Speaker: Yeah, yeah. Once you get up there, it's amazing. sure it is. Yeah. Yeah, and you can catch it in all different parts of upstate too, you know, rather than you don't have to just start here, you can go farther upstate. Yeah. yeah Totally amazing. yeah Huge biking thing, right? Yeah. Like tons of cyclists are upstate. Yeah, i love that. What about your top three recovery tools?
Speaker: First. Or foods. Or foods, yeah. So first for me is sleep. Like literally sleep, I know 100%, especially since having a baby, like how important sleep is to recovery. Like even just an extra hour. Like I woke up at 5 a.m. this morning. um little girl woke up for a minute, put her PASC in, and then I was able to sleep for another hour. And I just feel way different.
Speaker: um And I actually watched my ah HRV tracking. So my heart rate variability will usually climb to its highest points within the last two hours of like my sleep cycles.
Speaker: So the, and I'm a high HRV, they say is a good thing. So, um, that when I start hitting above 100, 115 into there, whenever I'm like in those last couple hours, i'm like, okay, yeah, I'm, I'm getting well recovered. So that would be my biggest sleep.
Speaker: tool which is Your beats per minute go that high when you're sleeping? No, no, no. So this is a heart rate variability. so it's Okay, yeah, i know about HR. like I know what it is, but I don't really know much about what it what it means. or It's the timing in between your beats. So basically your heart is being really efficient. Goom, goom.
Speaker: And then it wakes. And then, coom, coom. Oh, okay. that's millisecond between. But, um yeah. so Cool. So so that's that's pretty good for me. Sleep. Yeah, sleep. yeah I really, i think food probably too. Honestly, when I first got into this, I'll be honest, like it was, I had some real body issues with just like body dysmorphia, like thinking I was, overweight or fat. And so i was like, oh, I'm just going to do this really hard session and not eat. And such a bad idea. i actually, your body can go, i realized through others telling me about this in the research, but also experiencing it myself.
Speaker: If you get into this habit as I did of like going and working out really hard and then not eating, like almost starving yourself a little bit. That's literally what you're doing because you're expending so many calories and your body's like, what am I going to eat? It will eat some fat, but then it will also start to basically eat itself and you will lose the ability to, um, for your metabolism to operate correctly. Like it will shut down because it will like not allow you to, um, lose weight.
Speaker: And so like it will try to keep on fat. So it's like a you're double hurting yourself there. So totally eating really good foods, but like within hard sessions, like no later than 30 minutes is a huge thing for me. I'm vegetarian, pretty much a vegan. Every once while eat fish. so I can't really claim to be that, but I do love eating like My favorite after hard race meal is usually like black bean burritos, but not just like black beans, but like black beans and a little tofu and, you know, just all the sauteed vegetables and the tortilla, like all that stuff. Super good, super yummy. So food is definitely second recovery tool.
Speaker: I don't know if I use really any other like tools, but I would just say like hydration. and i actually have interviewed professional athletes, David, who have never like focused on sodium intake during racing and after, or even preloading.
Speaker: So I would actually say like hydration, but even more specifically, like the electrolyte balances of being able to preload before hard, hotter sessions is huge for recovery because the less deficit you come out of that exercise with or work with, the less you'll have to like spend feet up on the couch, sucking down fluids. Yes, totally. So true.
Speaker: Can you maybe just leave with one last thought for runners out there from all your experience? um Be patient. So I just started, be patient with yourself, I would say, above all else. Like enjoy that.
Speaker: Try to find enjoyment in the process because especially with endurance sports, really any type of running, development takes such a long time. And the longer time you give it to develop, give yourself to develop, the better off you'll be. Similarly, if you take like an oak seed or an oak acorn and you plant that thing, it's going to take a while for that oak tree to grow. But the slower and more methodical you are about planting it watering it, tending to it, it will grow to be a strong tree because the weed can grow super fast and become super tall and look really impressive. But then the first storm, it like blows over.
Speaker: And so I have some athletes who I've been working with for years and some that I've been working with for a shorter time. And everybody always wants it faster than they get it. So just be patient with yourself and allow yourself to grow ah slowly but methodically over time because like I think that makes long the longevity of you and your sport last the longest. Love it.
Speaker: You heard it here from Seth Hill. Seth, thanks so much joining everyone out there. Please check Seth's amazing podcast, Stupid Questions with Seth Hill. Congrats, man, on the success. i i saw your like 200 and some odd episodes in. So really, that's such a feat. Congrats on that amazing stuff. And thanks so much for joining the podcast today. Thank you so much, David. It's an honor to be here.
Speaker: Always a pleasure.
