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Speaker: It's your boy, Sadiah Kieda down here in Orlando. man. We the smoothest one in Chicago. know what mean? Be smooth. What up, BJ? You good? Hey, man. We living, man.
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Speaker: We gonna hear from him all so all year until the season starts. Hey now. And then yeah then you get quiet. Shout out to um so to the out there.
Speaker: Then we got the exchange, boy Dylan Fields out here. Hey, sir. That's an engineer out there in Columbus. Thank you. How you doing? I'm good, man. I'm good. I just ate good.
Speaker: I'm feeling good. How you feeling? that it I'm good. I'm good. dr What did you eat? I ate a little bit of, there's this place here locally called Blue Willies. Cause you know, we support local businesses and stuff because. Okay.
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Speaker: One of the biggest artists that we of our generation, Jizzy Drake. OVO-Ting. OVO-Ting, OVO-Ting, you know? OVO-Ting.
Speaker: Iceman, Six God, The Boy, dropped three albums. drop three albums And, you know, that's a lot. There's a lot going on there. Lots to unpack. So we decided to dedicate a whole little special edition episode to this just to kind of unpack everything that's going on, what we think about what's going on.
Speaker: ah Yeah, and it's been a little bit now. A lot of people have time to ah digest the album. It came out May 15th. So it's been a little bit now. Can we get a round of applause for the drop? Oh, I mean, okay. A round of applause for you. A round of applause for Drake. Yeah, okay. So who here is a six dive? Hey, where's the wah, wah, wah sound? We need that. We need that sound. Okay. I'll get that added. I'll get that added. Clearly a lot to talk about.
Speaker: Okay. So, I mean, I guess, you know, he dropped three albums. I guess the meat and potatoes is Iceman, right? I mean, that's what, that was what we was all waiting for. That was the promo for everything, the ice on the Raptor seats and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker: ah So that's kind of what we're to talk about um the majority of for sure is this Iceman project. um I don't know, maybe we just kind of just go around the panel and see how we feeling, a man. um Let's start with BJ. Let's start with BJ.
Speaker: I want something smooth, cozy, know what I mean? Articulate. What's going on, BJ? Well, let me ask y'all this. What's the smooth radar? Where's the set on the smooth radar?
Speaker: Before we even get that deep, dig what because you know what I'm saying, the smooth king, we peeping everything. What did y'all think of album cover?
Speaker: let me What y'all think of that album cover, man? He came, Michael Jackson glove with the six symbol or whatever. What do you, what do we think? Is it any deeper meaning to it? Definitely no deeper meaning to it.
Speaker: what was definitely a deeper meaning to it ah For me, I you i mean, it was cool. It was cool. I mean, I like it. It was cool. I like the black background. It was cool.
Speaker: it was cool. Yeah, yeah. No deeper meaning. I don't... No, I don't i don't go that deep with with Drake. For sure, for sure. No, no deeper meaning for me. man I guess it is a Michael Jackson glove, right? Right.
Speaker: You're not microtro jackson Michael Jackson. It is the Michael Jackson glove. page Yeah, okay. You're not Michael Jackson. That's it. You're not just because you got the numbers. Don't make it out. the attack ah Fuck out of here.
Speaker: OK, all right. All right. I'm with you, Dylan, to a certain extent. I definitely think that he was definitely letting me know. You know what saying? Letting it be known that he's... ah He is, is he he's by the numbers, he's the next, he's the closest thing. i mean, and I think it just, I think I saw something on the internet earlier today. He just surpassed Michael Jackson with the nose with the most hits.
Speaker: um Or like by the, by billboards and stuff like that. So yeah, I definitely think like that was intentional. Like he letting it be known, like, the Canadian man is still man, you what I'm saying? And I guess to kind segue into what I thought of the album, especially now that I sat with it a little bit, I still, I stand by what I think we talked about it a little bit on the last episode, but it was what I expected, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker: I saw something, I think Rap Genie tweeted out that by like by like the numbers, this is the most he's ever rapped on unlike any album. I think it's like 73% of the album is like his rapping. So like technically he gave people that album, ah which is cool. I didn't know that. I love that stat.
Speaker: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I think for me, I got out of it what I wanted to. You know what I'm saying? I think I got like eight or like six. I think got like eight or seven songs out of the 16 saved on my phone.
Speaker: And that's about what I expected. You what saying? It's a couple of joints that I really like. that ah That Denise Williams. The production on this album is crazy. The production of this is insane, bro. Overcast went crazy on the joints. Yeah.
Speaker: I really like the conductor. Could you feel me? that um I think that's firm friends that join us. National treasure. I like the intro. I wish we got more of that. he gave He got like he actually was introspective and kind of talked about like real things. um And that's kind of the only one that he really gets in like.
Speaker: outside of like his villain bag. Because I also think that's, this is definitely the villain, the villain drink Drake. Drake is my boss, Drizzy.
Speaker: I thought the visuals for the album was really cool, but I also think they're also very telling. It's a lot of black, it's a lot of, he's a lot of by himself, where if he is surrounded by people, they're not like real people. They're more like NPCs, just kind of like circling around them.
Speaker: ah So yeah, hold on, hold on, hold on. What, what ah what, what were the visuals? What, what, I didn't even know there were some visuals. Well, I get to see what it were, but I didn't see anything. Yeah, he got, he got, well he he dropped a stream and he's dropped multiple streams, but the last stream, um he previewed like all the, he previewed most of the songs in the album. And that I think this most, he's tried doing the stream throughout this rollout. And I think he's got mixed reviews. And I think this last one was the best one.
Speaker: in terms of like execution where he like I said, he played the last he played most of the album. And I think he also played like two songs that end up being on he beatty or how about however you say it. But nonetheless, the visuals. So they came to the streams.
Speaker: And then they're on they're on Apple Music, too. You can watch ah most of them on Apple Music now, but they're fire. Even the songs that I don't like, most of the visuals to this album is crazy. They were really, really cool. yeah oh So yeah, i think it was ah I think it was a solid Drake album. like ah I feel satisfied.
Speaker: I'm excited to see what he does next and when he does something next. How long does he let these three albums breathe?
Speaker: All right. Okay. All right. Do you have an out of 10? Are there yet to do a ranking or we chilling? We just enjoyed it and we're going to keep pushing.
Speaker: Out 10? I give Iceman out of 10. It's like a 5.56.
Speaker: go All right. It's like six out of 10. That's a strong six out of 10. Strong 60.
Speaker: Okay. Six out 10. All right, dude. Let's hear it. How you feel, Iceman? Oh, okay. Well, um I think it's important for me to preface this first.
Speaker: So I, for anybody that knows me or does not, have been a Drake fan for a very long time. He's notoriously, to like my disdain, has been in my top played a couple of years, like I think two or three times within the past five years, he's been my number one played artist. Now it's mostly, um you know, older albums, you know, like the the most recent one I think was like certified lover boy. So I'm like a huge, I've been a big Drake fan.
Speaker: Right. And so I was anticipating ah ah drop like most of us were. Right. And I think, I think I was thrown off from the very beginning when I heard there were three albums that this man dropped.
Speaker: And I get it. I understand why you do it. You know, you're trying to get out of the the deal with the label. um You know, you had those goals in mind. I totally understand it. You know, people talk about how people were glazing Frank Ocean when he did it, but then Drake does it and it's a different story. But to me, it's like we were expecting to hear from Drake after obviously one of the biggest things that has happened in hip hop in the past, you know,
Speaker: five to 10 years just happened with you and Kendrick. And I think that made these albums that much more anticipated. And so when you drop three albums at three hours and like 46 minutes worth of content, it seems like to me,
Speaker: you don't give a fuck. Like, like you're just like, we're just, and you know, we're going to listen, you know, we're going to listen, right? That's the problem. It's you know that everybody's going to listen because it's Drake and he's got that effect.
Speaker: does it feel like oh commentary And Drake always has, you know, it's a product to a lot of people, not a not a freaking production.
Speaker: oh And so I think Drake does very, very well at marketing, at selling himself through these albums. um And yeah, man, so that's like that's like my initial before I even listened.
Speaker: That's kind of where I was at. And so I finally dive in, finally dive into the album Iceman. You know, I love it. um I started it out the first like three, four tracks are fire.
Speaker: I like it. I really like the um the way he intros the album. You know, shebang was ah is a hit is going to be played for fucking years to come. I know.
Speaker: Janice Shut the Fuck Up is a personal favorite of mine off of there. And then I liked the structure that, you know, the Make Em Pay, the Make Em Remember, the Make Em Cry kind of added to the album.
Speaker: But outside of that, I felt like there was little to no purpose to this shit. It was just Drake telling us, again, how fucking great he is. And it's like, that's cool.
Speaker: I don't know. Maybe like, maybe it's just like where I'm at in the world right now, there's shit on fire in every corner of the world. You have so much to talk about from any direction that you want to. I personally don't give a fuck about Drake and how Drake is living and how great he is. And that's cool and all bro. But can you talk about something that's like, I had trouble paying for gas today. Can you talk about like, i don't know, like,
Speaker: I want more of that out of hip hop in general. And Drake is somebody that leads hip hop. And so when Drake doesn't release stuff like that, he kind of sets the tone and the trend for what may be popular.
Speaker: um i was just disappointed, man. I think I just had something else in mind. I walked away with that. Out of all three albums, I walked away with probably like eight tracks that I liked.
Speaker: And that Maid of Honor is the worst thing I've heard in the past. Oh yeah. Hold on. i have a quote. I have a quote from the exchange himself right here. Maid of Honor is the worst project I've heard in a long time from an artist I admire.
Speaker: One of the worst songs on there I think I've ever heard by someone considered to be one of the biggest in the world. Dylan, would you explain that to us? I would double down on every word I just said there. Like, absolutely. I would double down on that. I can't remember what song it was, but bro, this is some of the worst shit I've ever heard. Like, just don't leave it off the album.
Speaker: Maybe just leave it off the album. You know, you can drop three albums and have one less song, you know, like, I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker: yeah Just not my favorite. So, so yeah, that's, uh, if you were to ask me to rate it, you know Drake is one of the biggest in the world, if not the biggest. like You have to put that same emphasis on how you grade, I think. like It's not the same as ah ah indie artist dropping something. It's not. you know like and so um I don't know if I had to rate it, bro. That's like five for me.
Speaker: a five for me Five out of 10? Five out of 10. And it's really like Janice shut the fuck up and two or three other songs are really carrying that bitch.
Speaker: So you said five out of 10. you said what? Six out of 10? yeah So wait, was there five out of 10? Was that for just Iceman or was that for like this? Oh, that was just Iceman. Not the other two. But yeah, was a six out of 10.
Speaker: day I'm hearing two different... I mean, okay. All right. Yeah, where you at? Where you at, Sadiq? So for me, man, you know, ah i I loved it.
Speaker: I loved it. I loved everything about it. I'm not a Drake fan. Like, I mean, I respect Drake. You know, i love music. That's why we're all here, you know, at the Common Threat Podcast. This is what we do.
Speaker: You can't avoid Drake, right? You have to respect what he's done. You know, if you're... if you ah um you know, if you're a millennial, Gen Z, something like that, like, Drake's been around for, you know, he's part of the culture, right?
Speaker: Drake is nice. Drake is nice, bro. And the bars, the bars, he's got bars throughout the whole album, but
Speaker: You know, for me, like, I think, you know, I've talked to a lot of people. I've had a lot of conversations. I think part of, for me, why I do like the album so much is because I have, like, little to no expectations from Drake. I don't really take Drake that seriously. I'm not not even in a disrespectful way. He's just not my...
Speaker: ah You know what I mean? Like, like I love Absol and Lupe and and MF Doom. You know what I mean? Like, that's that's my shit. And like Drake is kind of like just not really my bag. Um...
Speaker: So, like, my expectations were kind of like, you know, my favorite, because Drake has many sounds, right? People say Superpower is a chameleon. My favorite style of Drake is when he raps. And, BJ, I love what you said. I didn't even know that.
Speaker: Genius said it's, like, 70% rapping or whatever. What was that style you said? so It was, like, 70% rapping. That makes... Yeah, that that makes sense for someone like me who the Drake songs that I do gravitate towards is when it's like a lo-fi monotone beat and he's doing that little three-piece cadence that he mastered. You know what I'm saying? Like, those are my favorite. That's just what it is. And he has a lot of that on here. Like, the album's soulful to me. There's a lot of soulful elements to this project that I really just ah kind of thoroughly enjoyed.
Speaker: You know, there's a lot of elements. lot of elements. It was very well produced. Very well produced. um The song Shebang, I love that song. People who are kind of clowning it right now. You got the streamer who, you know, kind of mocked it or whatever. And they put, I think they put Shebang over some like, yeah one of them like PBX cartoon shows or something, bro. Oh my God. god It works. It's hilarious. my God, dude. It was so funny. But it's like,
Speaker: You know what I mean? like It's easy to make fun of Drake. I know because I've done it for so long. um I thoroughly enjoy it, strictly because i didn't have any expectations. And also for me, my my listening experience, I was on a flight and you know somebody had sat next to me and i looked at him. he you know He seemed urban, I guess is the word. You seem to learn this, right? So I was like,
Speaker: So i had the I had my phone. I had just downloaded the album. like, yo, do I play this show? Do I play this album? He was like, yeah, absolutely. It's fire. was trying to tell my man, ain't even really trying to hear this right now. Like, you know what I mean? Every excuse in the world did all this in the drip.
Speaker: And then I'm on the flight, just, you know what I mean? And he tapped me. He was like, it's fire. And that's when I knew that I was rocking with it. So like in a real time, like somebody saw me who was attempting to hate and I couldn't do it.
Speaker: So, you know what I mean? i um I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed it. For me, if I'm the GO songs, I think the song i've been playing the most is Make Them Remember. i love all of the make them the Make Them series, I guess, whatever he's on.
Speaker: All of those are great. um Shebang. I love Ran to Atlanta. I love it. ah so You know, I mean, the only songs that there's only a couple of songs I don't like, really. And, ah you know, Janet, Shut the Fuck Up is one of them that i don't like, but that just seems to be a very popular one. Little Marie, I don't like. People love that one.
Speaker: That shit is fire. Dude, he's not like... Like I said, the Drake that I'm a fan of is like the... You know, he's kind of rapping and all that. And that Janice... took the I don't know.
Speaker: i'm not yeah i'm not I'm not catching that vibe. make them Make them remember and Janice shut the fuck up. Like, I'm all the way on the make them remember side. Like, all the way over there. You know what I mean? Like, so...
Speaker: That's kind of what I got it saying. I'm just piggybacking off what you said. That's unanimously, I feel like, I've heard. is ah that that Or no, that Make Them Pay, I feel like, is what I've heard consistently be like people's favorite song.
Speaker: People that go to Drake for the raps. That's definitely Yeah, Make Them Pay. Yeah, that Denise Williams. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker: It's all great. It's all great to me. Out of 10, man, like, I'm... Eight. Seven, eight. Eight. Yeah, I'm going eight. Eight out of ten. Where does this rank for you in all time albums? I've been playing it the whole time.
Speaker: Going back to it, um you know, I'm seeing, you know, it's polarizing too. You know, you're going on the social media, you're seeing, you know, people are dancing to it, people are mocking it. You know, it's going back and forth. So, you know, it's, ah I think, you know, it is refreshing just to kind of hear Drake just speak in like, you know,
Speaker: just a step forward from this ah Kendrick beef narrative. You know what I mean? um Because it is Drake, a lot of ah things have been said by artists, contemporaries of his.
Speaker: so we'll kind of go down the list here. ah Well, my first thing,
Speaker: beja talk to me, bro. Because, you know, you just move i not need i need I need smooth knowledge right now. I need smooth, cozy knowledge right now.
Speaker: Why is Future getting away with everything? Future's getting away with absolutely everything.
Speaker: my My thing is, because Drake's like, yo, like, y'all niggas don't come back around when I'm up on the scoreboard, I'm that nigga, y'all left me alone. That's the worst thing y'all could have done it." But I'm like, yo, Future is on the album. He right there. Y'all cool now. you know, one thing on the album, you Drake's like, yo, I'm that nigga, y'all left me alone. It's mad, idiot boy, dem.
Speaker: You left me alone. Worst thing you ever could have did. I'm the boy Michael Jackson. glo yeah You know what I mean? Don't come back when the score is 10-0. if But Future's already back.
Speaker: Y'all already back.
Speaker: Like, didn't he, like, he made the We Don't Trust You, right? Ain't that a whole album, this and this nigga, Drake? Am I tripping? Not his own. And then he deluxe that. And then deluxe that bitch.
Speaker: It ain't the whole album. Two songs. BJ, then he deluxe that bitch.
Speaker: Then they deluxe it, right? Yeah. And, you know, like people say first person. So obviously the beef was brewing for a long time, whatever cool. Right. And then first person shooter comes out, Drake Cole.
Speaker: People say that was the first diss of the beef that we saw two years ago. um But obviously Kendrick comes out to on the future like that song.
Speaker: And that's what definitely kind of, you know, opened the floodgates. So I'm just like, I'm just thoroughly, I'm just thoroughly confused on why Drake gets away with it. BJ, please, you're Mr. ah mr sch Smooth man. How how are how are these negroes Smashing the same chick, getting dissed on records, and Future got away with it. Explain, please.
Speaker: I would say... I would say because Future 80 is the motion, man. you gotta And I would think out of most of the people that Drake dissed, he... or that Or rather, that relationship still is like... Drake can still get like positive gains out of that. Like...
Speaker: I don't know if he's going to Rick Ross. I don't like a Rick Ross collaboration. Isn't really doing much for Drake right now. A Khaled collaboration with Drake. I mean, Khaled ain't been Khaled in a little, in a while. And I mean, the last time Khaled was Khaled, you could argue it was because of Drake. know what saying? Like Khaled is the one begging Drake for a feature on his album. You get what I'm saying? So like, I think out of most of the people that he really had, even Cole to a certain extent, like Cole,
Speaker: that the the the three goat thing, that was a cold thing. That was something he was really pushing. It wasn't really necessarily something Drake was necessarily pulling for. And like he said, he feel like that relationship is forever, forever strained because it is. um And maybe it's because like, maybe he's, he value, like they have an act, they had an actual friendship versus the, and that's maybe how I'm looking at it. Like, I think he, him and future are like,
Speaker: they not friends. Like, they business associates type shit. Like, they get together to make hits and then that's it type shit. Like, I don't think it's nothing deeper than that no more. Or, uh... And then, yeah, and i kind of pushed back. I don't think the whole album was about this and Drake, but i also don't think the future, like,
Speaker: And I think not like, or ah was it like that or whatever? i think at that point, it was still kind of cute. Like it was, it it was, it wasn't like a full blown, like this, this, like that was like that. caught it caught people off guard because, and it was really like three, four bars. It ain't no big three nigga. It's just me. Like it was, that's what they have been doing. That's really what they've been doing a lot. Like up until they finally said, fuck each other. Like that's basically what they've been doing. Like they just did like little subliminals type shit.
Speaker: And like I said, at that point, I don't think it was still. So yeah. And Future didn't say nothing. It's just his song. Like, and it was, it's a hit. Like what you want me to do? Like it's a hit. Like what you want me to do? Yeah. That's exactly how Future portrayed that shit. You good. You good, my nigga. You feel me? Like what you want me to do, bro? Oh my God. Future's undefeated.
Speaker: Bro, ain't got no real beef with you just because the producer, the its because he made the beef. He don't like you. I just, it's not, nigga. I'm just, i'm this you feel me?
Speaker: Bet you'll shut your whole ass up and make some drums, nigga. I'm saying, I'm saying. um Oh, yeah, what do you do? So, yeah, that's I think it was that, bro. I think it was just that. Is Future Undefeated? Nah, Future, I mean, yeah, kind of.
Speaker: I'll take it back. yeah love this god and Oh, man.
Speaker: Dylan, who is Molly Santana? Who the fuck knows?
Speaker: I don't know. Go to Atlanta. Maybe they know. The kids fuck with him.
Speaker: don't know who Molly Santana is. I had i definitely... fit That shit made me feel old as fuck. I had no clue who this Cardi... that Cardi got kids. like That's so crazy that Cardi got like he got branches off his tree. and She definitely wanted them.
Speaker: yeah does she got yeah Yeah, we're gonna going to... I'd be interested to know if we still talking about Molly Santana by this time next year.
Speaker: Because I have a feeling that won't. Rob Markman- You think it's a McCona and Block Boy JB type thing going on? Markman- I don't want to throw... I like Block Boy JB.
Speaker: And I actually like McCona. Rob Markman- Come on, BJ. b i Come on, bro. Rob Markman- like Block Boy JB. Why Block Boy JB got to take it straight? What Block Boy do? Rob Markman- Yo.
Speaker: Okay. Okay. Is this one of those situations where Drake feeds off of of rising artists and then that artist then proceeds to struggle ah going past the hit that he has with Drake?
Speaker: That is really Drake's song even though it's... I don't think that's happening on this song, but I do think that's happening on this album. Transition. With Molly Santana.
Speaker: No. With Molly Santana. No, I don't think that's happening with Molly Santana. I think he was just, I mean, she I think he just awesome. i think I mean, this people do that. Like, that's not like, ah I don't think that's like a culture vulture thing. Like, I think the little birdie shit is more of what you're getting at versus like just an established artist tapping a younger artist. Like.
Speaker: What's the little birdie shit? The 1900 Rugrat. Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, that was definitely up next. Transition. Yes, I'm about to transition.
Speaker: Yeah. You know what's funny about that? Yeah, so okay, so 1900 rhetoric, a rapper that looks like Dylan, who's from Florida, so he sounds, you know, he tries to sound like us, right? He's, ah you know, he's had he's had some moments, right? moments. Nah, hold on.
Speaker: ah yeah I look like 1900 Rugrat. i do oh you Look at my neck, y'all. Can y'all see my arm? He could be your Jacksonville cousin.
Speaker: Blonde hair. He could be your Jacksonville cousin. okay No, that is so crazy. That is so crazy. that it Y'all are nuts for that.
Speaker: that's I need everybody to go look up a picture of this man after this. ah This is nuts. I just want y'all to know. Go ahead, go on. Go on with your point. yeah So he came out on Instagram. He goes, yo,
Speaker: egos yo I was supposed to work with Drake. Me and Drake were, you know, we were supposed to collab together on my debut album. I showed him this beat, which ended up being the intro for my album. He was supposed to be on it, never was.
Speaker: Now this beat is also sampled on Drake's album, Little Birdie and Little Birdie, People Love It. And now 1900 Rugrats Pissed. I was actually interested in this because I live in Florida and 1900 Rugrat is one of those.
Speaker: He's from that tree, right? He's from that Florida tree. And so I actually listened to like the first couple songs on that album. And the intro was one song that i really and enjoyed.
Speaker: So when he's brought it up, i was like, i don't remember. I don't ever really remember. <unk> I didn't listen to Drake shit and like, yo. That was 1900 Rug Rock samples. Drake did sample a Kip Stone song or a Kip Stone sample, but it was just another artist. said Yo, he sampled a sample. You know I'm saying? Like there are popular samples people take. I've heard one sample over here and another rapper over here did the same joint.
Speaker: Like that happens. So I think in that situation for us,
Speaker: BJ, remind me what you said. like You think it's culture, culture. I think 1900 Rugrat is kind of... He's trying to just gotta to get a moment off of Drake's steam for me. That's kind of how I view it.
Speaker: Yeah, i disagree with that wholeheartedly. But I've been talking about it. Go ahead, Dylan. Yeah, I disagree with that. I mean, if you listen to the 1900 Rugrat song, it is a carbon copy.
Speaker: Like, he... He literally says the same words. A little birdie say you did me dirty. That was like the the main thing. in Same cadence. Same cadence. And it's important. It's very important to point out. It's hilarious. This is the first beat that 1900 Rugrat had produced himself.
Speaker: And so he felt a so ah type of way when he was like, you really just took that, flipped it and made it something else. When i like, I made that, I made that, like, that was mine. And I, you know, like we had a deal. And so. Oh, okay. And a piggyback off that. I'm getting educated.
Speaker: He dropped the receipts of the IG DMs. And it's I think it's it's more ah it's less like culture-vulter and it's more, like I said, like an established artist kind of like throwing his weight around. saying, fuck you.
Speaker: You know what I'm saying? Because I'm Drake. Big, big, big, big. You did what I'm saying? Because bro reached out and was like, nah, like I really like i ah really want to do something with this. with this he he He sent him a couple different songs, but the joints that the joint that stood out to him was the little birdie beat.
Speaker: And bro was like, ah fuck with you, but i can' this is going to be the intro to my album. this ah but Everything that Dylan just said. And Drake was like, you know what? As an artist, I respect what you're saying. I understand what it'd be like to feel like you already done.
Speaker: Let's try to work together in the future. For you to say that and then go back on your word, that's the whole shit that motherfuckers be talking about. that Like, Not only in the business.
Speaker: You feel me? Like you, that's, some you were you, you, you a bitch. Like that's the type that's, that that's that shit. On top. And mind you, this is somebody who doesn't have millions. 1900 Rugrider successful, but he's not, you know, like he's trying to make it still. Like, I mean, so on top of the freshman cover list this year, like he's very, he still new to the scene.
Speaker: I think a big part of this album is Drake is really like, this the most connect like Canadian I've ever, like drake is Drake is really embracing, like he really embracing Toronto. Like he yeah he's really embraced this album more than anything other. It's like a love letter to Toronto. And he completely like sidesteps that on this joint to do this Florida accent on this Florida person's beat. It's like, damn nigga, like,
Speaker: You gonna double fuck me? Like, damn, G. Pause, but damn, like, damn. Yeah. Little Bird's terrible, by the way. I disagree. That shit is fine. That's what I'm You gotta turn that shit out You gotta turn, you gotta blast that shit and get that shit is cold. He definitely floated on that bitch, but he is still hoe. He stole that shit, but he stole that shit. He definitely juggled the nigga. Well, i I appreciate the education. I was misunderstood. i was misunderstood. Big Big Tech Noodle Bank.
Speaker: That sounds like Drake though, too. Like, I'm not surprised. That's Drake. Damn. Damn, 1900 Rugrat.
Speaker: a All right. He was just listening to the album. like he was this like He turned the shit on and just heard his beat. You're like, what the fuck? Yeah, um that's not... Okay, then I guess um you know Rick Ross is still talking shit.
Speaker: I mean, it's Rick Ross, right? I don't... That shit corny too. He's like, I don't... i don't it's coming You said what? That shit corny too. Yeah, it's kind of, you know, he said, I want you to win. And he's like, it's trash. things I don't know. Yeah, you ain't even listen, bro.
Speaker: That shit was funny. Yeah, Rick Ross, you know, he's an interesting character. ah On the lighter side, though, Soldier Boy said he was the first... He was the first... Gotta leave it to Soulja Boy, man.
Speaker: He said, by the way, I'm the first rapper to drop three mixtapes in a day, or three projects in a day. And, you know, the internet, interneted, and, I mean, hey. What's a factual statement?
Speaker: I mean, is Soulja Boy undefeated? ah Yes. Okay, yes. Soulja Boy is undefeated. He hasn't taken a lot of lbs, but he's taken his spiritually of lbs, I feel like.
Speaker: I don't know. The L's somehow always turn. Yeah, I'm about to say. He always gets back up better. He's a pivot king. He a pivot king. Can you remind me of an L?
Speaker: The gaming system thing was definitely a big L that he had. i mean, i was really like in v with yeah yeah he's turned into a cartoon character, my nigga. Like what you mean? He was a ah he was a he's a legitimate pioneering artist. And now he's like,
Speaker: To rack this Drake, to rack the Drake episode up, I got I got a soldier boy story. was at SeaWorld, right? there to see Lupe. I was there to see Lupe Fiasco.
Speaker: And, uh, soldier boy opened up. a And you know, it was two stories packed, packed, top to bottom.
Speaker: And it's SeaWorld, so it's like families and mothers and daughters. And then the DJ came out, he played his little, and ni di and then I need you, then and I miss you. know Atlanta Negro from Fulton County, camo shirt, Jordans, locks.
Speaker: Right? Then Shoja Boy came out. And these mamas and these... yeah Yo.
Speaker: it was It was a scene. He made a scene up in there. And in the it's hard it's hard to just... In the moment, you're like, yo, like if you can really go to C-Road and turn that shit upside down, you got my respect.
Speaker: because I'm there to see Lupe. Yeah. I'm there to see Lupe. When Lupe came out empty, mad folks left, sun coming down. It's just me and all the hip-hop heads up in the front.
Speaker: But when Soz Boy is up there, turn that shit upside down. o And for me, personally, when you see it a real time, in the flesh,
Speaker: so that's my story. I would argue associate that ray j Ray J would pack out SeaWorld too. Nah. Yes, he would. Ray J? I think that's the same group of people you're talking about love Ray J as well.
Speaker: that The three songs, the three first songs he got, they know word for word. Absolutely. The Ying Yang twins packed it out. Brother, yeah. Ray J's packing that bitch out.
Speaker: Ray J's packing that bitch out? Ray J is packing that bitch out. Y'all saw him get Y'all saw get knocked out.
Speaker: The nigga said he was dying. Yo, you know his gut, bro, his gut is crazy, bro.
Speaker: Oh, man. All right. Well, Drake dropped Iceman, ah Maid of Honor, Habibdi. I didn't, ah you know, I didn't listen to the other two. I listened to Habibdi as much as I could.
Speaker: And Dylan's review steered me away from Maid of Honor. Oh, dude, you should just check it out. Just because. ah Did you like Honestly Nevermind? Do you like house music?
Speaker: No. Not his. I feel that. it's i feel like it's a I feel like as of the first couple times I listened to Habiti's ass, bad, not good.
Speaker: I don't know it is because I'm older, the Drake R&B is not it no more. It don't do it for me. There was song on there, WNBA. WNBA was good. I remember liking that song. There are some decent, but it's just like, I can't get into it no more. The monotone, it just sound like wine. It just sound like the nigga whining, bro. And then it's not good songwriting. It's just not good. I can't get into it no more. But I like old Drake R&B, but I can't. I don't know if because regardless.
Speaker: I like some of the joints on this made of honor. You got to be outside. You got to have it really loud. You got to have a drink or two. But it's decent, though. When you live in, you just like, OK, you see someone you see some women with you like, OK, OK.
Speaker: Do you know any specific songs that were you gravitated towards, like specifically? Yes, man, for sure. Can you tell us on the people, in Dylan specifically? I got you, brother. I got you, brother. Yeah.
Speaker: I got you, brother. This blasphemy. I'm just saying, bro. Just saying. You're going to steer these people in that direction, bj before Before she come on with the cha-cha slide, the cheetah print is crazy.
Speaker: the Cheetah print is crazy. i of What? Before she come on with the cha-cha slide. I just wanted to be known that's his mother on the cover while he talks about smack that ass, smack that ass at Cheetah print. That is his mother. Hey, man. Hey, man. Hey, man.
Speaker: amen
Speaker: Fair enough. Fair enough. Fair enough. It's not for me. That true bestie is decent. That Q&A is decent. That stuck is decent. ah okay i two yeah that should be that true bestie is isn't that q and a um it's decent that's stuck is decent
Speaker: oh andt you ah Get you a vibe? Catch you a vibe? Be outside? feel me? it's quite I'm just saying, bro. You got to be outside. I'm inside all summer then. I'm inside all summer.
Speaker: you go here I ain't going outside all. Go hear it, bro. All right, BJ, I'm out here in Florida. The sun is shining. and i should I should give Maid of Honor a little spin.
Speaker: Give it a spin. to Give it a spin. get you especially Especially like... You got your little ting, you feel me? Y'all want your way to the spot. You trying to turn it up, but not to turn it up. You don't want to put nothing with bitches and hoes and fuck this. You just want to, you feel me? But you want to, you know, loosen her, you feel me? It's like Miami, Miami music. It's Miami Vice. You see the shirt. Y'all see the shirt.
Speaker: It's getting hot down here, man. It's going to get hot. five miami fights my with that You you a little cocktail in your system. Have a cocktail in here. yeah okay Okay.
Speaker: Okay. um Yeah, I guess. Oh, real quick, BJ, I know you wanted to ah kind of speak on um the fact that he did drop three albums and, um you know, obviously with the lawsuit and everything that pertains to you, you wanted to kind of go into that?
Speaker: Yeah, I'm just interested. So, uh, On the Joe Budden podcast, they had kind of tossed around like this idea, and I thought it was really interesting.
Speaker: that um Because I agree. I'm of the same mindset that Dylan talked about earlier, that I don't think he was like blessing the fans with high-quality music that he had been working, that he had been keeping in the tuck. I do think he wanted to...
Speaker: i do think there was some strategy strategy I do think there was some strategy into him releasing the three albums. like I think ah I saw something on the internet where it was like Habidi, Iceman, and Maid of Honor, Smills, like him.
Speaker: i feel like that might have been kind of intentional. like i feel I could definitely, that felt like a Drake thing. wow. You feel me? I feel like that was a Drake-ish thing. Wow. did not want that You mean corny?
Speaker: That's dope corny. Corny dope. That's cool. like some Drake shit. like That's some Drake shit. he I can definitely see him thinking, I'm a killer with this one. ah Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm with that. I'm with that. But you feel me?
Speaker: Inside of that, though, I think outside of just the artistic, the artist, the artistry of it, I think strategically he was trying to get out of this deal. And what that means is Drake is trying to be independent.
Speaker: And as Drake has, as for as long as we've known Drake, he's been, i mean, he started off as a, as a teenage as a teenage celebrity, like a teenage star, and then turned into a global sensation. Like, he's a pop star. like And I think more than anything, like, the Maid of Honor is, like, a kind of a testament to that. Like, it's a lot of global sounds. Like, he's... I think these three albums feed... He tried to feed every part of his fan base. um
Speaker: And I'm interested to see if the golden child of... the music industry, someone that's been driving the driving the wagon for the last 10 years. What does he look like?
Speaker: What does success look like if he's no longer the the golden child for these labels? like And what does that mean? like what What the ramifications look like for the rest of ah not just hip-hop, but just like music.
Speaker: Who's going fill that spot? Yeah, touch on that, Bill. Can someone fill that spot? He says they tried to get Kendrick to do it and you saw him burn in the bot farms. That's one of the videos.
Speaker: He basically saying like, you can't replace me. Like I'm, I'm, I'm still the guy. So like, yeah, I'm interested to see like, if someone can someone do it. What does that look like? What does that look like to you though?
Speaker: Yeah, no, I mean, I think it's huge, right? Like that's the bigger story, I think, than the music here, which is disappointing because you would hope that out of three three and a half hours that the story would be about the music, but it's not, in my opinion. It's mostly about the fact, you know, he did he did have this big lawsuit with against UMG and against really Lucian Grange, um and they've had their beef for a while now. um And so obviously ah throughout... the entirety of this album, he kind of peppers that that conversation as well. And I think it's going to be huge, right? You got to you got to think like, this is the number one artist in the world.
Speaker: I think when it comes to selling. And so this is somebody that was falling in line for these labels. He was the head of the snake, so to speak. And so if you don't have that head of the snake falling in line, what what kind of precedent does that set for artists that follow, you know, and so it's a huge deal.
Speaker: and the The labels are going to fight tooth and nail to make sure that this guy gets signed. He's going to sign the biggest contract that's ever been signed ever from any artist if he does sign and if he doesn't sign. That's a bigger story to me. You know, what kind of what kind of paving the way does he do for independent artists if he does go that route and venture that that that way? I mean, imagine how much money he would see dropping three albums where he didn't have to pay a damn label, you know, like.
Speaker: It's going to be insane. It's going to change the the landscape of music. There were, you know, figureheads in music talking about this very moment coming and how it would change the landscape as a whole of ah of how...
Speaker: you know, music gets bought and and how artists get supported. And so it's going to be a huge story. And I think that's the bigger thing here. And I hope he does lean into that. I hope he does lean into being an independent artist and, um you know, fighting for for for more of that, you know, more getting physical copies into people's hands and out of the streaming necessarily. You know, if you have an artist that maybe focuses on that and is like, I'm not going to put my music on streaming. I'm going to sell it only direct to customers. And he sets that
Speaker: you know, precedent and shows people that they can do it and gets a larger audience more accustomed to it. What could that do for music? And so I hope he doesn't sign a big deal. I think he will because he's Drake.
Speaker: But yeah, yeah, I think it's a huge deal. Yeah, I mean, I well said, man, it's ah it's unseen territory, you know, for sure.
Speaker: well ah we'll see what happens, man. i ah you know, for me, I in You know, like like I said at the beginning, Drake is, you know, I don't take him too seriously. ah The music, i good music chumps all, whether you're on a label or not on a label.
Speaker: You know what i mean When you're at that level, you just got to put out good product at the end of the day. You what I mean? Like, that's what it comes... yeah and say i disagree. and i don't even think it's great i go say yeah i don't even think of and even I don't even think it's about music at this point. like it's it's about out of prospect It's about the business of it. like It's about ownership.
Speaker: i mean That's what I'm here for. I'm here for good music. like like i don't yeah i don't dr Drake ain't... You know what I mean? that's just kind of like I don't mean to be nonchalant about it. yeah what i mean but like i really just try to I try to keep it as simple as I can whi with him. You know what I mean? and Like I kind of just, I'm way more well-versed than like other artists that, you know, I'm truly cared for.
Speaker: um but Drake, you know, I just want to see him keep going. I love seeing greatness. I want to see the greatness run con continue. And if that means he has to go independent, hey, I'm all for it. ah You know, just good music. I just want to see good music. And I believe he did that, this this project, ah you know, but Drake is just so polarizing. So yeah it's...
Speaker: You know what I mean? What is a good Drake project at this point in time? Like, is that even that, like, that world will be set and stuff. Like, time will tell with things like that. So, you know, um we'll see what happens, man. I would love to see it. I'm not the biggest fan of labels. They've been shooken and jibbing for years. So, you know what I mean?
Speaker: <unk> We'll see how it goes. We'll see how it goes. any yeah Anything else, y'all? Any other Drake... Anything else? Iceman? Iceman's hurt? I hate him, I love him, you're gonna listen. You know, that's what he knows. And so. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. Hey man. Hey, that's it man, you know. There's some good raps on there. What'd you say, There's some good raps on that Iceman. There's some good raps on there. Yeah man, there is, there is. I'm satisfied. I'm satisfied. All right man, that's it. That's it for the Common Thread, you know what I'm saying? There you go.
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