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Episode 2 - Dr. Mac Toohey
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Welcome to Episode 2 of the Lee Asher's World Podcast! Today, we’re thrilled to welcome our very first guest, Dr. Mac Toohey. In this episode, we’ll dive into our personal wellness routines and explore what makes Asher House Wellness the ultimate supplement brand. So, sit back, relax, and enjoy this exciting conversation in our second episode!
Transcript
Introduction: Lee and Dr. Mac's Journey
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Hey everyone, I hope you're having a beautiful day. Welcome to episode two of Lee Asher's World Podcast. It is with great pleasure to introduce our very first guest of the show.
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This guest is very important to me personally because she is not only my personal doctor, but also my brother's personal doctor and now also works with Asher House Wellness.
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and today's guest is dr mac dr mac is an integrative functional medicine doctor specializing in the interconnected areas of gut brain and immune health her passion for integrating the rigor of science with the mind body and soul has led her on a lifelong quest to be the doctor and ally we all deserve one who listens, empowers the body's natural ability to heal, and seeks the root cause of health challenges.
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And I can promise you that is exactly what she does. She is amazing. Let the episode begin. Enjoy, and thank you. i love you.
00:01:15
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Okay. So we are recording our second episode with our very first guest that I am so, so excited about. I always love speaking with you.
00:01:27
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I always get a little bit nervous speaking with you. You are always just so vibrant and you have such a beautiful mind and your way of explaining things.
00:01:39
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It makes me, ah It makes me so happy that you're not just a friend, but you are my doctor and you are a part, a very pivotal and important part of Astro House Wellness and pretty much the the reason why we even have ah human supplements. So Dr. Mack, Mack Tui, thank you for being here. Thank you so much for having me. It's an honor to be here and to work with you. I'm so excited for today's episode and for all the things that we're going to get into today.
00:02:10
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And um Mac, I just want you to know if you hear any footsteps in the background, that is my English bulldog, Tommy, looking for another bone, but I'm not going to give it to him. He's already had two, and that's it for him.
00:02:24
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He knows how to work the system. He knows that I would say give him another. He does. He does. um Well, thanks for being here.
Dr. Mac's Approach to Patient Care
00:02:33
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i have a few questions. I've got more than a few.
00:02:38
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um I wanted to know, tell me, what is your ideal patient? what When you first connect with someone, whether it's in person or via Zoom, ah like we've originally met,
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Tell me what gets you really fired up or very confident that this is going to be a major success. And what I mean by that is I know you never know if it's a success, but for me, for example, when i go to the shelter, when I go to the animal shelter and they bring out a dog that has extremely high anxiety, right? This is a dog that won't let anyone touch him or won't let anyone touch her.
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you know, has been failed over and over again, i have this confidence. I have like zero doubt that this dog is going to blossom at our sanctuary.
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And of course I know that I can never be for sure, but I have a system in my mind that I believe works, right? I'm going to bring the dog to the house, introduce them to three or four very confident outgoing dogs.
00:03:47
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Um, then that, you know, he or she will be sleeping in my bed with me and and and building that trust and and so on and so forth. So tell me, like, what gets you when you meet a patient that that is looking for help?
00:04:00
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what What gets you so inspired or energized or or build that confidence that you're going to be able to help this person? That's such a great question. And I love the fact that you have your own version of that in an animal form, especially the anxiety piece, because that can be bring so much love and attention to a dog that would otherwise be overlooked and forgotten.
00:04:24
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And that is something that I actually see a lot with my patient population. um I work with chronic complex disease. So usually I see patients who have been through the ringer of practitioners, functional medicine, doctors, et cetera, who haven't had an answer. Their labs keep returning normal.
00:04:41
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They keep asking for more um data information. untraditional labs that their practitioner might or might not be able to order, but they get shut down. They get told that it's just in their head, that what they're feeling will get better if they go on some anti-anxiety medication or if they go see a psychiatrist.
00:04:58
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but Those are the patients that I love to see because I know that there's answers, not just from their blood work, but just by meeting them and having a meeting of the minds and picking up pattern recognition what happened to you during your lifetime that caused you to have an imbalance?
00:05:14
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So typically I'll see patients that do have some self infections. um So mold toxicity, ah gut dysbiosis, which just means like an imbalance between the good and they the bad quote, bacteria in the gut. And then that will cause a- Did you say, sorry to interrupt, did you say mold toxicity?
Health Challenges: Mold, Viruses, and Community Support
00:05:34
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Yes. what Like in the household? Yes, the house, um the cars, your office, anywhere that you inhabit. Mold is naturally occurring. It's part of the the kingdom that we live in. And most of our bodies are able to overcome it from our immune systems being strong.
00:05:51
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Some patients, though, are not able to overcome it. And so you can have four family members in the same house and only one will react to mold, while the other ones were able to clear it out of their systems.
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So it's a common misconception that patients think that, well, no one else in my house is sick, so it must not be mold. But mold can be a contributing factor to weighing down someone's mental health and physical health.
00:06:16
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i don't know that. Yeah, there's a ton of different infections. You know, we have COVID going around right now and it's activating old viruses such as Epstein-Barr virus. You might have heard of it from mononucleosis, the kissing virus from when we were in high school.
00:06:29
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yeah Most people got it. That can be reactivated. 95% of patient population actually has that. So what I love to see when I'm talking to someone on a discovery call is just hearing that they know that there are answers out there and they aren't giving up.
00:06:44
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The will to live just ignites a fire under my ass so much. When I someone have the will to live and they want answers, I'm going to be your detective. I'm going to help you turn over every stone and try new avenues. I'm not afraid to do new therapies with a patient and understand that we're both practicing, we're both trying to figure it out because the biggest goal is we only have one life to live. And I want people to live the best life, to look good, to feel good, and to take all the crap out of their system. So they aren't bogged down by the stealth infections, by the crappy food that's put into our system, by the pesticides, the herbicides, insecticides that are sprayed on our crops.
00:07:21
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If we can peel back some of the layers, then we can achieve quite amount, a high amount of success in becoming our best versions or returning home to ourselves at least.
00:07:32
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So returning to our true version, which is always the goal. And that will to live that, that excites you so much. What do you think is the difference between the patient that you have that is willing to do whatever it takes. they They believe they can feel better, look better, get more energy, be out of pain.
00:07:56
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What is the difference between that one compared to the one that just does it? Yeah, I think it's multifactorial. sometimes patients become very comfortable in their sickness. they It's all they know. It's like a blanket of protection for them.
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Whether be a protection mechanism from a past trauma that they developed this um this extra layer to keep their nervous system safe or their physical body safe, that can be a very hard...
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obstacle to peel back because it has been a survival mechanism for them. The will to live can be beaten out of somebody when they're just told that they're invaluable and that they're crazy.
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So unlearning those types of conversations and unlearning that you are worthy of feeling well, and you are worthy of love and being here in this moment with a community is a big piece of it.
00:08:55
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I think that if you don't have people in your corner that aren't cheering you on, the will to live, what do you have to live for? You don't have a brother or a sister or a mother or a daughter or a son to provide for because you're like, I'm just by myself, everyone abandoned me. I think that's another big piece. So there are patients that I will have them go do some self-exploration before they can work with me if I don't feel the will to live piece because otherwise it they're not gonna get better.
00:09:23
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If they don't believe they can get better, I'm not gonna get them better. right So that's a big piece. Does that answer your question? It really does. Yeah. And i love how you mentioned community in there because ah it to so many people, including myself, you know, people think just because I have such a big following on social media, you know, there oftentimes I have felt so alone.
00:09:47
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you they So alone. Right. And it's hard to have. your problems, the problems that we face as humans in the world while dealing with terrible back pain and your own trauma and the trauma of others, if you care what people think and all these things that you pile on.
00:10:06
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And, um, I'm very lucky. I do have a community. it's still It's still on social media. It's separate from the Asher House. But so often when I am feeling down you know or in pain, when i when I feel the support of a community, when I feel like when when i get that reassurance that I'm not alone,
00:10:28
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you you for that moment are so present. You are so here now with your community because you're all feeling this together. And it's so beautiful to to go through because we we at the end of the day,
00:10:42
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no matter what we ever feel, ah when it feels like we're alone, it's impossible that there's not thousands to millions of other people going through exactly what you're going through. And I've had the similar trauma. We're all different and far in in terms of our DNA, but we all generally have very similar problems, you know?
00:11:02
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okay Yeah, I love that. it's it's It's funny how we all think that we're special in a certain way, that we're the only person this has ever happened to, but then we share experiences and we find out, oh, okay, you deal with anxiety or you deal with depression as well, or yeah like i don't have a seat at the table and I want to be invited. and you and it's such a ah beautiful feeling because for a second, when you realize someone else is dealing with the exact same thing or worse for a second, your ego jumps in and is like, no, yours is worse. But you realize like, it's really not, you know, you, you, you, the truth is right there in front of you. of There's no reason for someone to be dishonest. And it's like, wow, we really are all in this together. We should be supporting each other.
00:11:47
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Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent.
Personal Growth and Relationships
00:11:50
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Um, So I wanted to ask you, can you tell me, and I don't know a better way to ask this, like how do you look the way that you do? youre yeah You're so vibrant.
00:12:06
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Like you're so naturally energetic and not in the energy where it's like, let's go party, let's go to a rave. You have this, just beautiful aura about you.
00:12:17
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and And just to let everyone know how how Mac and I met, may I call you Mac? Oh, yes, please. um Mac, you know, my brother, my brother, DJ was ah was really not getting any sleep.
00:12:30
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I don't want to give too much of his personal info here, but he was struggling and he wasn't getting a lot of sleep and ah went to a whole plethora of different doctors and. um Somebody recommended Dr. Mac and he's been a patient of yours.
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and don't know if you're allowed to say, but I think it's been a year, more than a year. And um then DJ recommended that i speak with you you. You gave him a bunch of supplements and recommendations. So just to give everyone an idea of how Mac and I came into each other's lives, um my brother DJ pretty much connected us due to the help and everything that she did for him.
00:13:15
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So um getting back to it, yeah, I i met you i when we first met and we still haven't even met in person yet, which is crazy, but I cannot wait for that. um But yeah, when i first met you, ah you let me know if it's okay to say that you were pregnant.
00:13:33
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And I was like, oh, maybe that's why you're glowing. And you just like, so you have this beautiful energy of abundance. And then think like two days before she went into birth, we just had ah our normal Zoom call.
00:13:46
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And you're like, yeah, I'm giving birth in two days. And I was like, okay, well, good luck. You know, that's fantastic. And you still just looked the same. Like you just, you just energetically, even emotionally, like everything was just like the same.
00:14:01
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And then, and then we, like a week later, I thought for sure this phone call, this the Zoom that we had would be canceled, but no, you were on it and you looked the same.
00:14:14
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So what, like there's obviously consistency there. So what, how, what, what do you do? Like if you could take us through your routine, um, I, I, I can't help, but think it's not just what you eat or the supplements you take.
00:14:29
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You must have, uh, some sort of healing self dialogue, uh, which is something that I very much struggle with. I, and, and, uh, I do think, you know, the way that I,
00:14:41
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have spoken to myself in the past has probably aged me way more than it needed to. But I'd love to know what you're doing to be able to show up the way that you do every day, whether you've just given birth or not, literally.
00:14:56
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um Well, thank you for the... Massive amounts of compliments. You're so kind. um I agree. It's not just supplements and diet. You can't out-supplement a poor diet and you can't out-supplement a um like physical inactivity. But I think the biggest thing that's always been helping me and keeping me energetically clean is the people that I surround myself with.
00:15:21
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i Wow. Really? Oh, yeah. I'm very particular on who I keep in my circle. have a wide cast of friends that hold dear to my heart.
00:15:33
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And they bring me so much love and energy that I'm able to pour it into other relationships. you're That is not what I thought you would you were going to say. It's a common answer, but I didn't i think I didn't realize it's that important.
00:15:51
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like I didn't think it was that important. so So tell me tell me about your friends. du Does each one bring a different energy to you? Is there a love? Is there a comedy?
00:16:02
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how do How do you manage that? What does that look like? Yeah, I think we're all in different seasons of our lives. And the people that I've kept close in my inner circle are consistent and they will consistently show up for me when I need them.
00:16:16
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But they will always consistently be there for a good time. So me and my friends, we like to try new things. We go sailing, we go to live music all the time. Even if it's a new band we've never heard of, we're going to go because music It feels good. It like lightens up your soul. It activates cells on a cellular level, and you get to dance it out. and so Whatever has been happening for the week, it's just fun to have at least one night where you get to hang out. during the but when you go out When you go out, do you drink? do you drink alcohol?
00:16:44
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No. Most of my friends and I are sober. Not to say that I haven't drank alcohol, I used to drink smoke. I don't drink. i I'm very happy to say that I have not had a sip of alcohol in about six months.
00:16:58
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Congratulations. And I haven't, thank you, and I haven't been drunk ah in over a year. just smoke a little bit of pot here and there. um So I wouldn't say that I'm completely sober, but that is the extent of of what we'll do.
00:17:14
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um But it's hard, like i think for a lot of people, i can only speak for myself. When I hear about going out and dancing, it's like, how am I gonna do that with with at least like not one vodka tonic, one martini, but but and it's not even a confidence thing. it's so I just don't like and just don't see it.
00:17:35
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you know It's hard for me to envision me just going out and and dancing with my buddies and not having a drink. So is that, it's just since none of you drink, that's what makes it so easy, yeah?
00:17:46
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Well, I wouldn't say that. Like my husband and my family still drink. It's more where it, I just don't need it. I don't have social anxiety. I think a lot of my, I have a few best friends that still drink and they need that liquid courage to go out and connect.
00:18:00
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I just don't need it. i There was once upon a time where I did need it, but I've always found that I am going to wake up feeling the same. And I'd rather just have more mental clarity and be able to remember the whole night than to have the sip of alcohol.
00:18:16
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And addiction runs really heavily in my family. So alcohol for me was really hard. When I would see my family, they'd be like, why why aren't you drinking? Like, where's your here's your alcohol? Like, let me pass it to you. You know, as soon as I gave birth, like ah family member brought like a six pack of beer.
00:18:34
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And I'm like, no, it's the last thing I want right now. really that is I was just going to say, this is the opposite of what I'm in the mood for right now. Not that I would have any understanding, but i just if I did try to think about what that would be like, I wouldn't be like, oh, I could use a beer.
00:18:51
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I'm good. Thank you. But my husband might want it. you know He's been a rock star. So like my husband still drinks. My family still drinks. um It's just not where I'm at right now.
00:19:01
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And I don't think that's totally what has cleansed my energy. I think that that has been a big part, but I really do think it's the people that you surround yourself with because it goes back to like the loneliness factor. When you, loneliness is the biggest driver of inflammation. It's actually um been, there's a research article out there that suggests that loneliness causes six times more inflammation than one drink of alcohol.
00:19:24
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Oh my gosh. which I think is profound. And so i for me, it's just, if I need people who lift me up, they're not jealous of my success and, or um happy when I'm in, in a pit somewhere, like they don't, they wish me well.
00:19:42
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And when people wish you well and they want to see you succeed because they know that it's going to benefit the collective, I just think magic happens. Dude, I have done, up until recently, I've done the opposite of that.
00:19:56
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Like w I was such a pleaser and such a giver. And I just allowed my space, all of my space to be filled. And and so many people like just
00:20:15
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took and took and took my energy and and all that trust. who i have ah To hear you say that right now, I wish we would have had this conversation a year or two ago.
00:20:27
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I really cannot tell you. i it it would have It would have really helped me. I really hope someone listening to this knows the importance um I think that we feel we owe people something, you know, and we we have, ah as givers and empaths, usually have such a difficult time putting up boundaries when it comes to people.
00:20:53
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And to hear you say that, it makes so much sense. Like, you're the proof of that, you know. that Like i said, i I knew it couldn't just be ah supplements or dieting so to to have that it just makes me um it just makes so much sense yeah i and i i think what you're saying is is beautiful too because people don't realize i don't think people are trying to take more from you it's just because you say yes they know that they can it becomes the expectation becomes expectation then and then when you say no game over. you've You've said yes too many times.
00:21:27
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there It can't be that simple. like you could literally You can literally have nothing else to give and the yes is is a habit for them.
00:21:38
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right so yeah I used to get such bad anxiety like where I would become physically ill if I told someone no. I would be throwing in the bathroom and my therapist was like, that's on you. At the end of the day, like you need to say no and their reaction is going to be on them. There's this book called um Let Them by Mel Robbins that's out right now.
00:21:57
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Yes. Yes. right And I haven't heard the book, but I heard she has a podcast, a podcast episode called Let Them. Yes. Actually, our farm team, our farm team's manager, their lead, her name is Alicia,
00:22:15
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i could literally talk about her for six hours she is the most amazing woman in the world okay she manages this whole team and manages her she manages the entire farm team at the asher house and has her own farm at her house that's okay yeah okay that's how badass she is she was like one of the world's best horse trainers in the world and decided yeah yeah and just dedicated her life to this and, and her husband works with us. ah Again, I could talk about it for hours, but I bring Alicia up because um she just sent me that Mel Robbins podcast, let them just last week. So it's perfect timing that you bring it up.
00:22:55
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Oh, good. It's, you know, let them do them and let me be me. I think that's the piece. And um three years ago, I realized I was a codependent and people think that codependency is that I can't be an independent person without my partner, without my friends, without my parents,
Perfection, Pressure, and Personal Struggles
00:23:12
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without my family. It's much deeper, yeah.
00:23:13
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Not what it is. It is a chronic people pleaser who wants to control the room and control everyone's emotions so then I can control my own emotions. Yes. Oh my gosh. oh my godsh Then I'm making myself happy. And that was a really hard. Can you, can you say that one more time? can i interrupt because my enthusiasm probably distracted people. Can you, can you, can you, this is so important. Can you please tell everyone again, what an actual codependent is? It doesn't just mean that you want to be with your partner 24 seven.
00:23:43
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please Please say that again. I'm so sorry. I won't interrupt. i ah well I think what I said was codependent person is somebody who, yes, it doesn't have dependency issues, really. It's somebody who has gone through a lot of, uh,
00:24:00
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turmoil and um tumultuous relationships to the point where they had to learn how to read the room and to read the room they needed to learn how to control the room. So they tried and the emotions, the emotions in the room was, yeah.
00:24:13
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Yes. So because if someone's having a bad day, it might affect my day. And so then it actually becomes more of like a selfish thing than a selfless act. And so that was, we need to swallow as well. Cause I'm like, I'm not selfish.
00:24:26
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I'm the most selfless person that I already know. And then I realized, okay, no, I do have that. And that doesn't mean that that's bad or inherently bad or something that I need to work on to get rid of because we we need that duality. But I think that's been my biggest piece. And funny enough, I realized my codependency even went to AI. So like with chat GBT, I would be like, can you write me like write me a better response for this? I didn't like how it sounded with this.
00:24:52
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And it would give me a new response. I'd be like, that's a very good job, but I want you to try again. And I'm like, why am I asking AI to like, please and thank you and like trying to like me, even though this is- know, I can't believe you just said that. I i just did live where it was almost like a comedy skit, but I just did this live where I was talking about how I feel like I have this, you know, I'm in love with my fiance, Sarah, but I i feel like I have this like side piece relationship with Siri.
00:25:25
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I don't do chat GBT, but the way I talk to Siri, I'm like, why am I being so nice to you? yeah What is that? And so, yeah Hey Siri, just making sure we're good. Like, do you, like, did I do anything to upset you? Cause I haven't heard from you. She's like, you haven't asked me any questions. We're good. I'm like, okay, good.
00:25:42
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Okay. it's okay I'm happy. I'm not alone in that. No, you, I, this is my first time realizing that I'm not alone in it either. i legit like look for reassurance from Siri.
00:25:57
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but Because we want to be told we're good people. Yeah. a Yeah. And there's something that I have an energy healer and that's woo woo. But this guy is insane. He is, um, $1,000 an hour lawyer in the Palisades. He like wrote the law on bankruptcy law.
00:26:16
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He's really awesome. And he moonlights as an energy healer and he, um, What does that mean He moonlights. i've never heard that term. So he, yeah, he has a passion. So like on weekends and after his work, he will do energy healing for people.
00:26:31
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Um, thousand dollars an hour. No, he for it's a donation-based. Wow. his attorney fees are like $1,000 an hour. Yes, his attorney fees. Yes. So I always caveat with that because when people hear energy work, they're like, what?
00:26:44
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but Right. And you're like, this guy, know he has his he has a shit together. Yeah. This guy's like legit. And he didn't accept me for the first two years that I was trying to work with him. And then I finally had gotten in and...
00:26:55
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I don't know what energetic shift happened where I was able to get in, but after I saw him, everyone told me I was a glowing. Wow. I want to. and That i looked so um like a different person.
00:27:08
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And I just peeling back the layers with him and just like being able to see, you know, the parts of me that I want to keep hidden from my family you know, the world and seeing that those aren't mine to carry, that there's layers to what I'm carrying other people's shit, not just my own. Yeah. It was really profound because he was able to tell me you can set it down and you don't need to hold on to all this stuff because you can't carry it. You only have two hands.
00:27:37
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Does that make sense? It does make sense. i I'm listening intensely because... I mean, you said something so deep that it's hard for me not to focus on that.
00:27:52
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have you Have you heard of the halo effect?
00:27:56
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I'm just thinking about the game, Halo. The game Halo, yeah, yeah. It's not a game, but the Halo effect is like when you see that someone is so good, right? that This is just an example, right? It could also be like an evil thing, but I'm going to obviously be the positive side of it.
00:28:14
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When you see someone is like really good at something, okay? you you kind of put this halo of on them and just you have this belief that they're probably like that in every area of their life. Yeah, yeah.
00:28:29
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Right? I do that to people. It's really unfair, you know? yeah But as as i as I hear you, you know, as I hear you be so honest, which, which i appreciate so much talk about how, you know, you've you've had parts of you that you don't want to share with family or friends.
00:28:46
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You know, I, I think for me, i think of that all the time. I can't tell you like how badly, ah cause you know, I, I'm, I'm, social media is my life like and i know that's a terrible belief you know but i it is a community it is to me it's so much more than social media like what what i think we have is something vastly different it's it's it's the healthy part of social media and because of that i always want to tell people
00:29:20
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you know, things that have nothing to do, like things about my childhood, things that, you know, like the the worst mistakes I've i've ever made. i want to i want to be free of like feeling like I have anything to hide because I know that I don't.
00:29:35
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Like I know that I'm human and I want to be able to just say you know, This is me. This is what I, you know, this is a mistake I made when I was 14 or I said this to this person and hurt their feelings when I was 20. Like, whatever. i just, I feel like there's, big that there's so much I want to release off of me.
00:29:53
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Like, it doesn't make me a bad person. It makes me a human. It makes me someone who's made mistakes and learned from them and grow from them. You know, that's that's fine. But for me, you know what I do?
00:30:06
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i i put I put myself in jail and I throw away the key. and Okay. You isolate.
00:30:17
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i beat myself up over things that no one would beat me up for, that everyone like that people would still love me and not even have to forgive me. And they would they would feel sorry for me that I...
00:30:32
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I tell myself these things, you know, over things that I may have said when I was like 12 years old, I think of that. And I'm like, you're such a bad person, man. And I talk to myself like that. I tell myself how awful I am you know, but what I remind myself throughout, what I often remind myself is, is the power of intention.
00:30:53
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And I think that the difference between, and I, you know, this is just my opinion, but a huge difference between good and evil um is intention. her And i my intention has always been, has always been to help people feel better. And of course I've been selfish along the way, because as you so beautifully stated, what a codependent is, you know, and how a lot of that is self-serving. And it's also unfair to the people around us when we're like that.
00:31:24
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And I'm just now going through all this and and learning it. And yeah, Yeah, but to hear you say, sorry, going back to the halo effect, it's like the person who who i admire so much, you know, you, Mack, you also, you know, you have things that you're you
Daily Routines and Healthy Living
00:31:43
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wish you did differently or that you don't want to share, that you don't, you know, however you view them, I'm not going to put words in your mouth, but it was just really nice of you to say that, to remind me once again, i am not alone with those feelings, you know?
00:31:56
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Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And thank you for sharing that with me. It's, you know, we don't want to be ugly. We don't want to look in the mirror and think that was an ugly behavior or that my spirit ugly there. We have such a,
00:32:10
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aversion to pain and ugliness. And so anything that we deem that will make us uncomfortable or won't make us pretty, we just avoid. and so the self-isolation, I can completely identify with that. I do the same. I will put my phone on do not disturb and I will get mind right. And I just will need need a day. And then I notice when patients or ah friends or family message me, I'm like, oh crap, I'm so sorry I wasn't available for the day, but I really needed to work on myself.
00:32:38
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And I have a hard time even admitting that. saying need a day just to get my head right. Otherwise we can't show up for the people that we love. So for you, exactly you have so many different people that you're handling and juggling like humans,
00:32:53
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every type of animal. um yeah And so, and you're the lead, you know? So the leader has a lot more of a heavy burden that other people don't get to see because you want to be coming off as the strong person. And me as the doctor, I want to come off as like, I'm this perfect, healthy like example, but yeah this is work this work. This took work.
00:33:15
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And it's every day, you know, same with you. It's just, you're always like recalibrating. Like, let me, let me pull it because this isn't working for me anymore and I want to try this new health routine or let me let me do this with this with this animal because this animal needs a different structure. Right.
00:33:32
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Right. Yeah. And it's it you it's not about it working. Right. it's It's about just being better.
00:33:44
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It's like it's it's about these um these moments of like to me, i think it's really unfair for people, and i don't i don't mean I don't say this as like the victim, i so I think it's unfair for everybody to have no control over what happens to us when we're young.
00:34:02
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yeah Okay, we we have no control over what happens to us when we're young. When we're 18, we're still kids and and we still don't even realize when we're 18, for me, like 18 to 25, you don't actually realize you can change.
00:34:18
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You don't realize like you're just either you're the person that you think you are because that's what your parents or whoever you surrounded yourself with growing up thinks you are. And you most likely have a peer group that is like that as well.
00:34:30
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So let's just say you decide to change your life at 25 or 30. Like it is so unfair. You didn't choose to be the way that you are. you Now you've chosen who you want to be and you have to work all the time towards that.
00:34:46
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you know You have to change the way you think, even the way that you write, you know the way that you journal. you There's all these different steps. So for me, i realized, I've always said, like i just want to be I just want to be that person. i just For me, i've I've always wanted to be, I had this vision. I think I might have told you this in our first session, but I've had this vision of the type of man that I want to be.
00:35:08
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And i realized I'm never going to be him. um I just have to make sure that I get closer to that man. Every day is a step towards him and not further away to the boy that I was, you know? Yeah, absolutely.
00:35:23
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Absolutely. It's funny. We go through the first 18 years and then we go through the rest of our lives trying to heal the first 18 years. And we think that we're a victim of circumstance, but really we have control over our reactions.
00:35:37
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day by day and how we're going to show up for our friends, for ourselves, for our community. And when we realize that that's not how our story goes, or that's not how our story ends, we take back the power and yes continuously give it out to other people.
00:35:55
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I, that used to be my quote in college. And I had a ah buddy, I reconnected with him about two years ago and he was like, that has always been the most helpful for me when I realized to say, this is not how my story goes, because you have the option to change like that.
00:36:11
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You can say, I'm going to let this monkey mind be negative and go on this negative loop. I'm going to say three things that I love about myself or that I love about the situation. and change it. And I love affirmations, like saying i am safe, I am connected, i am loved, really can bring you back into the present moment and back into your body so then you can realize that you are inherently good.
00:36:32
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And it's the truth. You're telling yourself the truth, you know, because all these other things aren't true. And when you tell yourself that, you're you're it's and it's it's those affirmations are are true.
00:36:43
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her It's crazy how the brain just wants to talk and so it will talk about anything. So it will talk about negative stuff or positive stuff, but usually negative stuff. yeah It's like, no, stop. like let Let's be grateful here.
00:36:55
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Yeah. yeah yeah um So tell me, ah gosh, i I got to be honest. I'm enjoying our conversation so much that like I haven't even talked to you about Asher House Wellness and so many other things.
00:37:10
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Are you good on time? are you Do you have a meeting in the next 30 minutes or anything like that? Because I'm really enjoying this. No, we're driving up to Santa Barbara, but we're going at any time that this is over. Okay.
00:37:21
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Okay, this is so much better than a beautiful trip to Santa Barbara, I promise. Yeah, no, I'm kidding. Okay, so can you tell me about um your daily routine? What does that look like?
00:37:34
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Well, it changes every day. It depends on what I have to do, and especially with having a kid. um But for the most part, I wake up at 4.45. That's my sweet spot. That is no one else's sweet spot. but if i That's when Sarah and I wake up every morning.
00:37:49
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It's 4.45. 445 every morning. Okay. Hello. I've never met anyone else that has to wake up on that specific time. If I sleep till five, I'm not getting up. Like, Oh yeah, no, we were up at 445. And i mean, I'm just a little bit shocked that you are as well because you only have one child and one amazing dog, which I want to talk about. But Sarah and I get up that early cause we have to, i mean, we we have, have 160 dogs that we have to let out.
00:38:16
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pain And then you go on a walk. We have a very similar morning routine. seriously yeah find that hard to believe Well, I mean,
The Science of Supplements
00:38:25
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okay. I like generalizing. You have way more things you have to take care of. i yeah i just have like Remy, my Akita that I, we go outside immediately because I want to go get on a walk.
00:38:36
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I don't like to see other people when I'm walking. That's like my, my me time. I want to feel like I'm, in a romantic movie where I'm the main character and that's kind of my time where I get to romanticize my life is in the. Oh, that's so awesome.
00:38:52
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What a beautiful way to look at it I absolutely love that. Yeah, that is so funny. And no one's gonna, can I swear in this? Fuck yeah, you can. Okay, no one's going to fuck with me if I have an Akita and I'm walking in the dark.
00:39:06
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like no No. No. Especially if you look like you're that character with a big smile. and Everyone's going to be like, I'm not messing with her. No, not messing with so um Okay, so you wake up 445. What's your keyest name again?
00:39:21
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name is Remy. He is so beautiful. Maybe I could show a picture of him later on here. But he is so gorgeous. I want to talk more about him as well. So okay, you wake up 445, you go on your walk. And on this walk, you're are you just being present? or you or like you said, you're visualizing?
00:39:39
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I I'm present. i i do like to talk to myself. Like I look like that crazy person, but like, I'm like talking about the day, like I'm laughing to myself. I look like a lunatic when I am out and about, but I don't like to put in earphones. I want to hear birds.
00:39:54
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I want to hear the bird song because that's going to regulate my nervous system. I don't wear sunglasses because I need the first morning light, which doesn't happen, especially, you know, now but that we just had daylight savings again. um but I do it go on two walks in the morning, but I really just want to immerse myself in and just have that peace and quiet before the rest of the world stirs and wakes up.
00:40:14
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it's right yeah It's just very peaceful. and And then I come home um and then I feed my cats And i usually jump in the shower and wash my hair, wash my face. I end the shower on cold always because it's just gives me an extra boost of energy. It- No matter what?
00:40:31
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No matter what. If it's freezing, I'm doing it. Your cold colds are amazing. Like- Yeah, my cold, they are, are but I cannot.
00:40:41
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and And even for me, like what what i people say, like it doesn't really work or it doesn't do this. I don't care yeah if it works or not. I know that I'm convincing my mind to do something it is so against.
00:40:56
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and And that is like, People talk about power, like you know power over people and all that's all ego. you know When you have power over your mind, that's winning. And there is nothing harder than, in my opinion, those is that. so And quite frankly, I say that because I think that it's harder to do in the shower than it is to jump in a cold plunge.
00:41:20
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Because in the cold plunge, I'm not really comfortable. I'm like going from like, I'm just going right into the water. When you're taking a hot shower and you're chilling and you're comfortable and then you have to actually take the action of turning it cold, yeah you're crazy.
00:41:37
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you're crazy I love it. feel like on stoppppable I have a boost of dopamine. And I'm a dopamine addict. I have ADHD. If I'm over, I can get my dopamine hits. I'm going to get them.
00:41:51
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so Okay. So you take your cold shower and then you you have a face routine, you said, yeah? Yeah. Yeah. I'm really into skincare. It's just like nourishing your body. you know like We have the inherent right to look good and feel good. and So that took me a really long time to nourish my skin.
00:42:08
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Sarah really wants me to do skincare. Do you think it's just as important for men? oh yeah, absolutely. I'm not going to tell her you said that. Okay. Okay. And then, uh, do you eat breakfast? Um, I I've seen your Instagram stories. I see a lot of whole foods. I mean, I see some really good looking stuff, but what are you doing as far as like supplements first thing in the morning water after you get, uh, you do your face routine, then what?
00:42:35
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Yes, so I'm drinking about like eight ounces of water before i'm having breakfast, and then I get 30 grams of protein however I can. I go to a local butcher. I'm about to go halves on a cow with a girlfriend of mine, so I like to know where my meat comes from.
00:42:54
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i as you must be getting a very big freezer. Yes. Yes, we are. I'm so excited. um And eating fruit. So you need to eat fruit before 12 PM. Otherwise your body just turns it into sugar. So you're not going to get all the different nutrients like the anthocyanins, the fiber and all of that. So just specifically with fruit. So I eat a shit ton of fruit in the morning.
00:43:16
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And have the 30 grams of protein. I try to aim for two servings of veggies because that's what I tell my patients to do. And I need to walk the walk with my patients because that really helps with your digestion. But sometimes it's hard to cook the, the two servings of veggies.
00:43:29
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Um, yeah I'm not a leftover gal. Like I like to cook my food and then eat it. I think I'm, weird like that. I think like food has a different taste. And so I, the food that I cook has to be able to be eaten and or cooked within 20 to 30 minutes. If it's over, is that for health reasons or is that just like your own thing? Cause I love me my leftovers. I i eat leftovers.
00:43:52
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I'll eat it four days later. It's just me where's with me. Unless you have a like a histamine intolerance, then you shouldn't, like it doesn't matter. I just think that it for me, it's just, I don't know what it is. My husband loves it. It's your own thing. Yeah.
00:44:05
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own thing. like I just want to eat something that's just fresh. um And then, yeah. And then I jump on social media, jump on messaging. I think my brain works the best in the morning. And then I try to do four hours of intentional work and then I In between that, I'll take another walk.
00:44:22
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I live right next to a reserve. I'm very lucky in San Diego. I live next to a gorgeous lake and eucalyptus forest. us So I get to go out a few times a day and just kind of meander and just think about what I want to do for the next 15 minutes or the rest of my day.
00:44:41
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You know, I just started my own company, so I'm having a lot more individual freedom with that. So it's been really fun to just like play in the realm of what ifs and what do I want to contribute to the world now?
00:44:53
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So that's basically what my days are consisting like right now. And then sprinkled in. Sorry, go ahead. And then sprinkled in with hanging out with my baby, of course. Yeah. you You mentioned social media. where Where can people find you on social media?
00:45:08
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I'm on Instagram. I'm trying to get off TikTok because TikTok is going away. But there's something I love about TikTok. tick is like TikTok is like the wild, wild west. They figured it out, man. I don't think they're going anywhere. I think that was all a, I don't know. I mean, it doesn't make a difference to me if they do or not. um I think where where I feel bad of the reason why I think I don't want it to go anywhere is because the amount of people that I know use it as a source for income.
00:45:36
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I think, I mean, a lot of people have ah built their personal businesses on there. So I think to just take it away, Yeah, that's actually where I get patients from, is from TikTok. And I haven't posted in a very long time, but people still find me on TikTok. And so I'm like, okay, I just, it's been so great for people to have, like, to consume information from other sources and then find your people on there. And hopefully... Yeah, my only thing with TikTok, but it's not even just TikTok. It's just like, in general, people in general, just...
00:46:08
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make sure you get, if you're passionate about where you're getting your news source from, get it from other places too. You know, just like, even if you trust somebody or it's just, well you're just to hear something from one person, i just think is so um like, it's not good for you, you know?
00:46:26
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Amen. I'm always like, can you argue that the other side? That's what I always do. Yeah. and And there are, and I think that's the thing ah that people, um man, we we can get way off. I feel like we need to have more more conversations, but you can always,
00:46:42
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if someone is saying something about a topic, they should also argue the other side in the other side's favor to give the listener our option to to decide how we feel about it if we're only hearing the one side.
00:46:56
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And that's why at the end of the day, people will hear what they want. That's where that comes from. Like you're just gonna hear what you want, what suits your narrative, you know um I think that's a good for this.
00:47:07
Speaker
Don't you think? Yeah, I was, I was literally just going to say, um, I have a question that I should know the answer to and I don't, and I don't want to bullshit my community. Um, so it's just not a question I've answered and, um, I'd love your help with this.
00:47:24
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So you now work with Asher House Wellness. Um, My first question, which I do know the answer, the the one that I was going to ask you, I realized I want to i want to have a better transition into into talking about the supplement. So I guess I just want to know, um why do you work with Asher House Wellness? like how did how did I know I could say it, but if it can come from you, how did you partner with Asher House Wellness and why did you decide to do that?
00:47:57
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I think when I met you and you know working with DJ on a personal level, our missions aligned. I see the ah authenticity and the genuine how genuine you are and how much you love to help others live the best life that they can.
00:48:13
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and you care so deeply about so many different avenues that I just felt a hell yeah when I met you. And if you want a hell yeah, it's an absolute no for me.
00:48:26
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And getting to know you more on a deeper level, I just see more and more that we can share a lot of the same morals and same values. we want We don't want to bullshit our our the people that we work with, so we don't give them crappy supplements that actually don't have the ingredients inside them. we You're transparent, which is rare today.
00:48:47
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People aren't transparent enough and honest enough. Or they are they're not afraid you're not afraid of humility. And that just really speaks to me on so many different levels on why I would even want to work with this brand. is
00:49:03
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You're just unmatched in so many different avenues. i don't think I'm eloquently saying it. but You are. i mean I wasn't expecting you to to say that. So i I could not be more flattered. Seriously, that is beyond time beyond kind of you to say. Thank you.
00:49:19
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Well, I just appreciate that you have brought me onto your team so we can make this vision of making people and their pets healthier together. It's a huge missing piece in the world that no one, I don't really see anyone's done it before. And, you know, you're trying to leave the world a better place when you found it. And I think we're on the right track.
00:49:40
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oh Yeah, it it hasn't been done before. And I think that's so surprising because ah like so many people, i my English bulldog is walking around here. um Like so many people, our pets, you know my pets, my dogs, they're I feel very guilty calling them a pet. yeah you know ah they're They're my life and they're my family. And if health is wealth and health is your life and pets are your life,
00:50:08
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and animals are your life, that we need to find a way to be able to combine the two of of making sure that our family members, whether they have fur or not, are are as healthy as possible. and we And I just felt like bringing that together um would be a very beautiful thing to accomplish.
00:50:27
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um when when we decided to come out with the products that we came out with, ah i know that after a couple of our sessions, some of these products, it was a different company, um but some of these products are, some of these supplements are ones that you recommended to me.
00:50:47
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So i have a couple of questions. um And this is the one that i don't know the answer to because I feel like too much of a salesman. All right. And this is what I would, I'm just going to, you talked about transparency.
00:51:02
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I'm going to be transparent. i I don't think that like, so this bottle, this multivitamin, this multivitamin Asher House wellness bottle, this is about $70 our website.
00:51:14
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on our website I don't look at this and think I would pay $70 that. I, I, i ah our marketing isn't great you know so like it doesn't really it's not really saying yeah and to to our listeners there was so much more as far as the marketing goes that i wanted to add on the bottles but it gets you have to be really careful and i don't know how other companies get away with this maybe they just don't care but you have to really be careful about what you claim the supplement can do
00:51:48
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Right. Even if you say it can boost energy, like there's a lot of claims that you have to be really careful about. And being that we have such a big name that I have a big name in social media and we have from, you know, we have my personal company, which is Asher House Wellness to Lee Asher's World to the nonprofit, which is separate, the Asher House.
00:52:08
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ah I just didn't want to risk anything. And I felt like we can talk about it as much as possible instead of just putting things on the bottle. So If you can help me understand and our listeners understand why is our Asher House Wellness Active Multi-V $70 on our website when someone, why would someone pay that?
00:52:32
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when they can just buy what I used to buy before meeting you, which is like a $25 bottle on Amazon, right? That has 20,000 reviews, five stars.
00:52:45
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People seem to like it. What are some of the major differences and what's with the price differences? Absolutely. I think that's an excellent, excellent question. And unfortunately we have to go through the truth, which is not fun to hear. And with Amazon products, you are, you are buying for convenience. You are buying because you are seeing the $20,000 review or the 20,000 reviews for other people who are just like you, who have tried the product.
00:53:15
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Unfortunately though, you don't know if you're actually getting the product that you paid for. So a lot of the times like the supplement companies that I will work with, they will buy back their supplement that is being sold on Amazon, test it in their lab or a third party lab and realize that some or none of the active constituents in the supplement are actually being offered to the person.
00:53:39
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what What does that mean? Can you can you say that in like terms of... Yeah. Yeah. Someone like me would would understand better. Let's say that we're we're doing the total turmeric.
00:53:50
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So just one simple ingredient. And we're buying that from another company. like Let's just say now i'm not speaking on ah this is actually what's happening with now, but I've heard it from a lot of different um ah lot of different manufacturers and supplement companies that their products will be sold on Amazon and they will buy back their product to see if the total turmeric is actually in there and in the amounts that they are selling it.
00:54:18
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And what's happening? And they'll find that it's actually, there's either some of the product is in there or none of the product is in there. And it's just random. How is that legal though? It is because the FDA doesn't have any regulations on supplement companies in America.
00:54:32
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Okay, can you give me an example of what you mean by that? Because i i think I understand, but I'm still having a hard time. So let's use let's just make up an example. what We'll call the vitamin company ah the Perfect Pen Vitamins. So the Perfect Pen Vitamins sells total turmeric on Amazon, all right?
00:54:53
Speaker
And it says 500 milligrams per serving. Are you saying that If a third party buys it and they test it themselves, it's actually not 500 milligrams of turmeric. It could be vastly different.
00:55:10
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There is a massive possibility that you are not getting what you paid for, correct? Well,
00:55:18
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that sucks. Yes. So that is why, i mean, it, it, it sucks. It sucks big time. I feel like when I first, want I was lied to, and um I wonder how much, what am I actually putting in my body and why don't we have these regulations? Why isn't the government regulating what people can sell, but right can regulate what we say the product will do for your health.
00:55:41
Speaker
That's an interesting point that we could go off on a huge tangent on later, but it I feel like we're going to need more. I think we we need to do another episode together in the future because there's so much more I want to talk to you about.
00:55:54
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So obviously it's not just turmeric. So you're saying basically your reasoning to answer the question, what why is our supplement why is our active multivitamin $70?
00:56:06
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seventy dollars It's because we can guarantee and we're not we're not skipping on anything. You're you're getting the the highest quality in everything that's in it. You're getting what you're paying for. And on top of that, you're getting high quality because we are a third party tested lab.
00:56:22
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So we allow anyone to grab it and test it to make sure that the quality and the quantity is in there.
Investing in Health
00:56:29
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So it's honestly, it's, it's paying for trust.
00:56:34
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Yeah. What would, what would you recommend to someone who is on quite the budget? Yeah, yeah. i And they they're looking, they're like, okay, here's the deal.
00:56:47
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I'm a beginner, right? I'm a beginner. I want to improve my life. i want I want to feel better. i want to look better. ah You know, I'm on paycheck to paycheck.
00:57:01
Speaker
Okay, so we're they're not buying Asher House Wellness, right? what What are some things that people can do immediately, that they could start doing immediately um to start seeing improvements in their everyday life.
00:57:17
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Eating food that your great-great-grandmother would recognize. So eating carrots, eating onions, eating berries. You don't need supplements to live a healthy lifestyle. There's actually ah um there's a really good documentary, and it's called Vitamania, and it discusses how We're such a quick fix society that we decided to put everything in a pill, but you can get everything from your food. Right. most part Like resveratrol. That one's a very big, um, trending supplement right now for anti-aging and resveratrol. Okay.
00:57:56
Speaker
haven't heard of it. you can get that through grapes. You can get that through, there just different plants, but we don't, not many people want to eat grapes or i love grapes.
00:58:08
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Well, you're one of the few, mean, not one of the few, but not everyone wants to to eat Yeah, eat vegetables or fruit. But then we also have to understand that not everyone can afford vegetables or fruit eat either because vegetables and fruit are becoming outrageously expensive. And unless you look a good farmer um who you can buy from a farmer's market every week or from like a random stand on the side of a highway, yeah it's it's it's tough being healthy because...
00:58:39
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Look, you're either going to pay for it now or you're going to pay for it later. And it's going to be- That's the thing. is what what's What's the worst consequence? Yeah. Chronic illness, chronic disease. Which it doesn't get, it can't get worse than that, you know? Yeah, absolutely.
00:58:52
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Where you lose your mind, where you lose your ability to not have back pain or be in pain when you're just doing everyday work. Like, it it is good to invest in your health now so you don't have to pay for it later because it will be more expensive later. It's like paying interest almost.
00:59:08
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Mm-hmm. Great way to look at it. But I understand that this is expensive. So if you can't afford this, look at your plate and just try to eat the rainbow every day. So eating food that is red, I think we talked about this one time.
00:59:21
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ah talked about this in our first session, yeah. Red food is... So the color of food will indicate lead nutrients and systems that it works on. So... Red food is, yes, beets, tomatoes, bell peppers, berries.
00:59:36
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And what that has is it's very high in lycopene and anthocyanin. So it's good for your cardiovascular health. It's good for anti-cancer, if I can say that. That's like a tricky one that sometimes you get blogged for. um And it's good for ah dampening inflammation. So inflammatory response that's chronically turned on.
00:59:53
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Orange. Food is good for skin and eye health because it's rich in beta-therapyna, which turns into vitamin A. So it's good for your skin. It's good for improving eye health. It's good for your immune system because we need vitamin A to fight off viruses, et cetera.
01:00:08
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Green is good for ah detoxing and digestion. So what we see in that is fiber, magnesium, folate, chlorophyll. So it's going to increase your energy. It's going to help your mitochondria, but it's also going to help flush things out and feed your good microbes.
01:00:23
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Blue and purple, like purple cabbage, grapes, blueberries, blackberries. That's going to be really good for your brain health and your immune system. And then we have the white and the brown, which is good for your immune system and your digestive health, which is like garlic, bananas,
01:00:37
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ah mushrooms, onions, et cetera. So if you're looking for something to work on a different system, eat the rainbow. Eat the rainbow, i love it. And as far as your top three recommendations for Asher House Wellness, if if someone would say, ah we want to we I wanna try it out, I wanna support you, I'm not buying everything on the shelf, and right what what's the perfect three to get me started? Which would you recommend?
01:01:05
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ah You have to get mag three and eight like magnesium three and eight magnesium is the cofactor in over 300 chemical processes, which means it's like the, it's like the oil to your car.
01:01:16
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So you need, you need oil in order to get your car to run. If you're you know working on not an, um, not an electric car, but magnesium three and eight can cross the blood brain barrier. It's the only one that can do that. And so it's really good for cognitive health. It's good for improving sleep. It's good for you decreasing.
01:01:34
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Cell damage caused by stress. So this is one that I would say is a non-negotiable just because we don't get enough magnesium in our everyday food. And when's the best time of day to take it?
01:01:45
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You can take it in the morning or the or the evening. Got it. So I really like this one. i also really like your mushroom complex. the mu That's my favorite. ah my Mushroom complex is my personal favorite. Amazing. The blend that you have is unmatched, you know, you know, they're all organic.
01:02:04
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All the mushrooms, they're all organic. Oh, I love that. I want to ask you more on that. Um, Yeah, I have some questions with that, but you know you have like the best blend, like lion's mane has always had a special place in my heart. It actually can ah regenerate lost nerves.
01:02:19
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So I met a patient who chopped off his finger and on accident, obviously. And the the surgeon sewed the tip back on and told him, if you don't have sensation in the tip of your finger in the next six months, you're never going to have it again.
01:02:32
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He found lion's mane by host defense up in Oregon and taking it. And within four months he got sensation back in his finger. And so we started studying why is this? And it it actually regenerates nerves and brain cells.
01:02:46
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That is so cool. but That is so, so cool. Isn't that amazing that yeah nature provides for you? Yeah. I love that.
01:02:57
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And then of course, you know, chaga and cordyceps are really good for immune health. I love that you have that blend. And then reishi, you know, it's the the mushroom of ah ah immortality, the mushroom of the animal use. Great immune defense. Yeah, you killed it. and And like stress, it's great for stress. And like, let's face it, none of us are without stress.
01:03:17
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So that would be, I would take. It's, ah I'm glad you brought, it's definitely, I was hoping you'd say it. It's definitely my favorite one. Yeah, it's it's my favorite one. And what's your third?
01:03:28
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I would have to go with the total turmeric because for inflammation, for inflammation. Yeah. Yeah. I think this is, it needs to be more in our diet. Um, but I just love it because um one, I've been able to reduce patients back pain.
01:03:44
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with turmeric 500 milligrams twice daily. And I see that we, you know, the body is, um, holds emotions when they have nowhere to go when you're not transmuting it. And so back pain is usually, um money problems and the lower back at least. And so a lot of us are living paycheck to paycheck. So I really think that if it's not a structural issue, even just bringing down the inflammation, you can get off you don't have to have back pain for the rest of your life. Usually my patients get better within three months after doing total turmeric, but also like knee pain, diabetes, this all comes back to an inflammatory process. So I just think that this is the best one to mitigate that.
01:04:26
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Would you happen to know, and this is probably tough out of nowhere question, but out of curiosity, do you happen to know the, as far as difference of um it being effective?
01:04:36
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Like if I were to take two Advil compared to two turmeric, would the Advil, is the Advil definitely going to help me more, but is worse because of my kidneys?
01:04:49
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Yeah, yeah, exactly. You're going to have more immediate effects from the Advil versus turmeric. Turmeric you're going to have to build up because it is a natural product. um you usually need to have a buildup period of six weeks.
01:05:02
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So why would one, why would one? Want to go with turmeric instead of that? I mean, I'm asking for myself, you know, the thing is, is like, if I'm in a lot of pain, right?
01:05:15
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can you Can you take both? Can you take the Advil and the turmeric? Because I've heard that they can battle and then they don't essentially the the get yeah receptive.
01:05:26
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wait Wait, what was the word you said? ah They battle for the same receptors. so they both are Exactly. They battle for the same receptors. Yeah. I think that's a great question. I think that one is going to work on acute turning off that pain response in the brain. And then the other one is going to work on the foundation of why you're having that pain response.
01:05:45
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So personally, i would try to stay away from Advil, but look, no one should suffer. So yeah, I, what do you do when you get headache or if you're feeling pain somewhere? I,
01:05:57
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Castor oil is my best friend, depending on where the pain is. Castor oil has been proven to be just as effective as Advil. So for- What do you do to that? Well, I put it on topically and then I put a heating pack over it. So if it's knee pain, if it's menstrual pain, if back pain,
01:06:13
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I'll use castor oil. if it's a headache, I'll use magnesium and a lot of water. Magnesium actually, we have a patient that has migraine headaches, we'll give them an IV of magnesium and it will get rid of the headache like that.
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01:06:27
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If you do it too fast, they will feel like they pissed themselves because it makes, it gives like a hot crotch sensation. I've had that and i love it. I love magnesium IV. I haven't had the peeing myself thing luckily, but I would have these awful headaches. yeah i used to get terrible migraines and I did these magnesium pushes you know and I would feel this beautiful head rush and then my headache would go away and I was just, it was just amazing.
01:06:56
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Yeah. And sleep, you know, it pain is just a canary in a coal mine just telling you something's off. So it's trying to figure out what's going on. Yeah. But not to say that I'm against acetaminophen or using pain pills. Like by all means, use it when you need it. It's just you don't want to use it long term because it can cause gastritis and a lot of different problems on the liver and the kidneys.
01:07:18
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Definitely. Chronically. Yeah. And most people aren't drinking enough water to flush out the the remaining toxins. Yeah. Totally. Totally. Yeah. Well, I know you got to drive to Santa Barbara. So I have selfishly so much more I want to ask you because I've learned so much on this call, but I think, I just think that this was really fun. I'd love to do it again.
01:07:39
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um Thank you for everything that you do for the world and ah for Asher House Wellness and for me and my brother. ah i just appreciate you so much, Mac. Thank you for everything. And thank you for being my very first guests on ah Lee Asher's World Podcast.
01:07:56
Speaker
means so much to me and I couldn't have had it any better. Thank you so much. What an honor. Thank you so much. What a beautiful conversation. Please have me back. I have way more things I want to talk about with you and pick your brain and there this was There's so much more. I wanted to talk more about your dog. There was so much more I wanted to talk to you about. So I i almost feel like I shouldn't have been rambling, but you got me so energized about certain topics that um I was just really having a good time going back and forth with you. I really enjoyed this.
01:08:28
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Thank you from the bottom of my heart. And yes, I would love to have you back ah maybe in the next couple of months. I would absolutely love that. Sounds great. All right. We'll talk soon. Thank you. Talk soon. Drive safe. Have a great day.
01:08:40
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Thank you. Bye. Bye.