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Episode 5. Tired of Winning
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The lads are back after the international break. City are still City. Spurs are still Spurs. Benny is Mets for life. Jay tries on a pair of gold Adidas Predators. Devan explains the rules of inside football. And how do we join bowling club?
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Podcast Break Reflections
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Fellas we're back We're back. Here we go back. We are back to do it. Why didn't we have a podcast? we Like what happened? There's nothing happened. Nothing happened. It's true. Nothing happened when there's no EPL soccer. Nothing happens I I actually don't exist during those breaks. Where do you go? Like you you move mouth it's like the like the snap or something like that. It's
A Visit to Hershey: High School Football Experience
00:00:24
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sad. Just I'm just not I I visited my in-laws last weekend. Hershey, let's go. Hershey, Pennsylvania. Proper Friday Night Light, right? Like like proper, like... you know friday Yeah, absolutely absolutely. Like high school football, Friday night, cheerleaders, cowbells, concessions, staying, the whole thing. Is it a good watch? Was it a good... Like let's say, um obviously you're there because
00:00:48
Speaker
Because, you know, you got family there.
American vs. European Football: A Shift in Fandom
00:00:50
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Is high school football a good watch? um I think that's I think we need to get more local here. Was that a good watch? Was that a good watch? So what was interesting about it is that we did not just go to see Hershey High School football. We also went to see Hershey girl soccer the following day. And so I got to see like an A.B. test of my fandom, someone who used to be obsessed with American football and is now obsessed with European football.
00:01:18
Speaker
Let's put it to the test by watching some like not particularly entertaining teams play each other. Um, I found that I was much more, like much more interested in the strategy and like the on field happenings of the, of the girls' soccer, even though it was probably lower quality than the boys' football.
00:01:44
Speaker
There were no bicycles in the game and there were no attempted bicycles in the game, which was a bit of a disappointment. I would imagine that if you attempt a bicycle at the high school level, you're probably sitting the next week.
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The philosophical question for
Is Winning Tiresome? A Philosophical Inquiry
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you. Oh, God. Here we go. Do you ever get tired of winning? I don't understand what what you ah you've asked me a version of this question before. Yeah, I don't understand the question. What do you mean? How do you get tired of it? Are you kidding me? I think that there are ways to tire of anything, even if it's a positive thing. I think you you sure, but I'm i'm still like 10 years away from that. Let's keep let's keep going. Let's keep following them up because I also understand the
00:02:35
Speaker
the way this works. The way this works is that we're not going to be good at some point. Like Pep is going to leave. Holland will leave. Some, you know, people will retire. Somebody will get angry for money. And there's going to be a day that we're not good. Like we so will suck. Or even like when I first started watching and and it was just like we were like this little brother and we couldn't and this huge monolithic team was just all in that area and just sucked up all the oxygen there. like I remember those days. and they weren't They didn't last long because then right after that, we got we got bought out.
00:03:13
Speaker
but like those those times sucked, like they suck. And like, I know how you got, like, I know it's a little harder for me, because it's like, it hasn't happened in a while, but like that that whole watching the Sunday and then just being so absolutely pissed at your team, because like, you're just played so horribly. Like, I'm glad that I haven't felt that in a while. And I don't want to make it. I don't want to go back to it. Like, I want to just keep on going. Like, just keep winning. Like, no, I want it. I want more of it. I want
Switching Allegiances: The Challenge of Fandom
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to go. Keep going.
00:03:45
Speaker
And I feel like you and I have always espoused like different versions of fandom. Yep. And there's like there's something in me that needs fandom to be a challenge. Like I don't need it to be hard, but I feel like it. And we'll get to the we'll get to the Red Sox, um but like I feel like maybe because of the Red Sox, I almost like need to like overcome. I need to like get over that hump.
00:04:13
Speaker
And I've left teams before because they have gotten over that hump and proven that they, that they can win consistently and like found other teams to, to, to follow because they are more of a challenge. And there are other reasons for that. It's not like I'm just like picking teams at random. You know, I mean, I grew up as a Red Sox fan, lifelong Red Sox fan, lived and died with the Red Sox for many, many years. And then 20 years ago, they won.
00:04:40
Speaker
And then they won again, and then they won again, and then they won again. And it got boring for me, for me, it got boring. And so I like pick the pirates, you know, local team who like hadn't won in a while and you know, still, still rooting for the pirates, uh, you know, 10, 10, 11 years later. But, um,
00:05:00
Speaker
For me, it just, I don't, I don't know if I was. if if the shoe is on the other foot, and the shoe will probably never be on the other foot, but if the shoe is on the other foot. You don't know that. You don't know that. The next 10 games. Here we go. Let's go. I'm in for it. I'm in for the Spurs revival. Here we go. and I've never heard of that team. Oh, sorry. But this is also the the thing I don't understand about you specifically. like I don't understand how you can give up the team. That's the for that's the one I don't understand. I don't understand to give up.
00:05:33
Speaker
I've been blessed. ah love mayor city yeah but then I and I love the Giants, and some people will be listening to me. I love the Knicks and the Mets, too. Well, guess what? i like For my whole youth, they were awesome, and they won four Super Bowls. Now, the Knicks, the Knicks, there's a hole, but i like whatever. I'm never going to stop loving the Knicks. I don't care what happens, but like you can just let go of it. You can just let go of the Sox, even though like when I first met you, it was like such a big part of knowing you as a person.
00:06:04
Speaker
Like it was such a big part. And then now all of a sudden it's not, it's just gone. But like I can't do that. Like I pretend like I don't care about the Giants. And then I'm out, like I'm grading papers yesterday on the couch and I'm watching them lose to the commanders and I'm getting so, I'm so angry. Like just so like rage. And I was like, God, and I had to get up and go and I had to get up and go to the bathroom. I'm 48. I should not be, I should not care this much.
00:06:33
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Teams for me are like friendships.
00:06:39
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And like some friendships last forever and some friendships last a couple of years. And some friendships that you grew up with as a kid go away when you're, when you go off to college or when you graduate from college or when you move away. Devin's on my team.
Abandoning Sports: Changing Interests and EPL Appeal
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Devin fully understands what I'm saying.
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Devin, please, the floor is yours. I think ah for me though, I just abandoned whole sports at a time. Like when I was done with American football, buy like I never looked back. I still haven't looked back. When I was done with baseball, like in theory, I could come back to that. My kids are kind of into baseball. And so I, that might bring it back, but it hasn't so far. I think there was a time you liked baseball. Oh, Devin was into, into the Red Sox with me. Yeah.
00:07:26
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Not a chance. 2004. Yeah. I had gone to school in Massachusetts. It was like two weeks. You're lying. It was like maybe three years. Three years now. It's about three years. It's like, you know, I went to school in Massachusetts as you pick up a little bit of interest, but I didn't know baseball, right? And so it was like, okay, yeah, I wrote talks. This is cool the way people like this team. And then I made Jay write like, you know, a week after I moved away from Massachusetts. And, uh, yeah, so it was like,
00:07:54
Speaker
you know, before they had won a World Series, it was in that couple of year run-up to winning that was incredible to watch. And so it was like, you know, very intense. And then I went to grad school and it was like, there were no sports for me then. There was no time for anything. And then it just never went back to baseball. And then once there was a deal to get the Premier League on TV in the US, I was like, ah, finally. And then that's it. So it's that and Olympic breaking are my two sports now.
00:08:31
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I think you are a classic fan and I don't, you know, I don't, I'm not saying that like my viewpoint is should be the default of all fandom. Like you, you are the default. You are like the born with it, born with a team. You love that team until you're dead. Win or lose no matter what. If you win 20 times, you win 20 times. If you lose 20 times, you lose 20 times. Most of my fandom was decided by 1987.
00:08:58
Speaker
I feel like my fandom is still up for grabs. Still taking, still taking bids. Yeah. I, I just, I'm not, I think there's something like, what's the word I'm looking for here? Unconditional. Unconditional is the word I'm looking for. That like, there's, there is, this is where really what I will say. It's traitorous. That's what it is. like you You can't, you can't abandon them. That's it. You picked them and now that's it. You're stuck with them.
00:09:25
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There is little in my life. there are There are very few relationships in my life that exist unconditionally. And a fucking sports theme is not one of them.
Unconditional Loyalty vs. Flexible Fandom
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Unconditional. Like truly unconditional. Yeah. Like Benny is a Mets fan unconditionally. You know what that means? Benny is a Knicks fan unconditionally. You know what that means? They're never gonna win. So many heartbreak. Don't do that. You don't know that.
00:09:53
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I've had this conversation too with Devin separately from YouTube, where he talks about this guy just throwing it. like It's so hard for me to understand. I don't know how you turn it off. like I don't really watch the Mets that much, but as soon as I start watching, I'm in. I'm in. I'm there. i sent you that I sent you that reel the other day with that All Star team. and the thousand Mets that were on there. And I'm just like, no wonder I love this team. Like we were incredible back then. Cocaine just took it all away from us. But that was it. Oh, 1986. A little booger sugar just took it all away. It's done. Why isn't baseball a cocaine friendly sport? I don't know. I'm i'm here for it. Football, both kinds. You can do great on cocaine. I think we need to open that door up. I feel like cocaine really plays in sports where there are constant motion.
00:10:43
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But it would be really interesting in baseball to see like nine dudes out there just like totally tweaked standing just as still as they try to stand on television with no one else around them. That would, I think be why cocaine would. Yeah. Okay. Okay. baseball This is a good time to mention the guy, the perfect game on acid. What's that guy's name, doc? Something doc, whatever his name is. doc ellis So, so baseball is an acid sport.
00:11:09
Speaker
Yeah. If I say if I say we're putting more cocaine in, are you then back in? In a baseball? Yes. I think I've talked myself into into the LSD angle. I think I think of the ghost. That's it. The whole side just just seeing their souls out there like that's that's what I'm here for. Constant emotion sports. Those are for narcotics. Baseball feels like a hallucinogenic sport.
00:11:38
Speaker
that That pitch is going to look so big. It's going to be just like coming at you. Coming right at me. I'll tell you what, man. I played Frisbee on Acid one time. And like, I felt like I had 20 minutes between when the disc was showing for me and when I had to catch it. What was that? What was actually the real time? Was it just like and normal Frisbee? We were, we were. Two, three seconds. Yeah. I mean, we were 20 feet away from each other.
00:12:05
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And I felt like I could do anything. I felt like I did. I caught it behind my back, between my legs. I had no real experience. I just felt like I had all the time in the world to catch it any way I wanted to. It was great. You're like a show dog doing tricks. Yeah, it was awesome. Let's get Doc Ellis on the show.
Soccer Managers: Patience and Media Pressure
00:12:22
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I don't know. Is Doc Ellis still with us? He seems. I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to go ahead and say yes. Doc Ellis was. It was like that survive.
00:12:34
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2008. 2008. All right. Yeah. You just got to look for that first word on Wikipedia, is or was. That's all you're looking for. All right.
00:12:49
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We're not going to discuss the X's and O's of what happened with Spurs and Arsenal. We're not going to talk about that. What I will ask. We're going right in. We're going right to the big topic. Let's go. Let's jump in.
00:13:02
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Uh, notably, I mean, pep never needs any time to figure anything out. When he gets there, he immediately starts winning Bayern, Barcelona city, obviously, um,
00:13:15
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clap needed time to figure it out at Liverpool. Arteta. Hasn't won shit yet at Arsenal, even though they treat him like he's Pep Guardiola. So he's he's needed some time to figure it out, and he's gotten that time at Arsenal. There are never really any questions about his job, but we're all we're already starting to call a little bit, not much, not much, but we're already starting to call a little bit for Angel's job, like 50 games into his career at Spurs. I am not one of those people.
00:13:44
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um Devin, I'm going to guess you're not one of those people. I'm not one of those people. Arteta, Arteta finished what, eight, eight, five in his first three seasons? That sounds, yeah, that sounds about right. yeah I think the thing about Ange is he's better at bragging than most people. He's better at coming out swinging. He's better at being... reletting expectation Let's say setting expectations. Sure.
00:14:06
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setting a clear and firm expectation of where he's going to be and what he's going to do and not backing down under any circumstances. And you're going to be in the line of fire, right, when it doesn't work. And with this team in particular, people are going to be impatient. People are going to be waiting for the next shoe to drop, this perzy shoe. And, you know, he's he's suffering from that. I don't think it's soon enough to to draw any real conclusions. I mean, I'm like,
00:14:31
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I have my own anxieties about it, but it it just needs time to cook. Benny, how long do you give a manager? I don't think he's anywhere near a person, a fire bowl manager at this point.
00:14:46
Speaker
I, you do have to win. You're at a club that you do have to win. Like you can't, there's a certain level you can't go to. Like I still don't know how Tenor has his job anymore. Cause I feel like he passed that threshold. Um, will be a fake i yeah yeah, like a couple of times. I still don't understand how he has a job, but whatever he has a job, stick to the plan. But if if you're going to show that kind of pages at arguably the biggest, most important club or used to be anywhere.
00:15:16
Speaker
then you definitely have to have it here. And if you're gonna try to, what I always understood the change to be is this is a culture change. Like, we're getting rid of the demons. Like, that's right we're bringing in some dudes, ah the Red Sox equivalent, Kirk Schilling, like, I don't care. Pedro Martinez, I'll, you know, I'll throw a fastball right at, you know, Babe Roo's ass. Like, I don't care. Like, if you're gonna do that, then you have to give it some time. You have to give it some time. And I'm sorry, like,
00:15:46
Speaker
ah The way the British media covers some of this stuff and how they outwardly attack managers, especially after the game forced press conferences that they have behind the with that with the logos behind. Yeah, whatever. There's a thousand different logos. And there's just this out there throwing like a lobs, just literally just javelins right at people like right in your face. And they just sit there like and then, you know, they'll give you the answer. You know, we got the tactics, blah, blah, blah. And then sometimes he's just like, no, I don't care who you are. Like I'm I'm confident in what I do. This is what I do. I'm going to play this outline. We're going to go here. And if you don't like it, fine. And if I get fired from because I do it,
00:16:31
Speaker
So be it. I don't care. It's a very British thing that has always mystified me. like You ever watch like the House of Commons hit where they're debating and they are just tearing each other apart? C-SPAN, Penny. Get on our level. C-SPAN. If those two people saw each other on the street, it there would be zero effect. It would be pure courtesy.
00:16:54
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and And then you get them and as a public figure or into like a debate context. And it's like, we're more polite as Americans in that context until somebody like upsets the political balance. We don't have to get too deep, but it's wild to see. It's wild to see how they attack.
00:17:13
Speaker
I think in general, one thing that ah that is always like mystified me about not necessarily, I mean, you know, yeah, of course we can talk about the British media and the tabloids and things like that, um you know, and how they affect everything that happens in that country. But with like football managers in particular,
00:17:32
Speaker
There's such a short leash. like More often than not, people are getting fired, sometimes like within the span of a season or they're they're only given like a season and ah you know in a couple of games before before they're sacked and somebody else is brought in. you know How many managers have Spurs gone through in the last like five, six years? It's it's crazy. They don't need a new one. No, we don't need a new one. and you know Comparatively,
00:17:53
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like There are very, very few American teams in any sport that I can think of that run through managers like English or like European football teams run through managers. that That is the thing. let's Let's say we run out of patience for Ansch. We lose three more. What's plan B? Right. Who's out there? Gareth Southgate? Get out of here. If you don't like the high line,
00:18:17
Speaker
Why don't you try the really pushed back line where your striker ends up at the CDM spot? That's that's football. That's football. That's that's ah that's the style. Are you ready for that? Get ready for strikers in your own half. Five line in the back. Here we go.
Fashion Trends: Soccer Boots as Casual Wear
00:18:42
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fellas, the soccer internet has been ablaze the last several weeks with a gentleman who I'm not sure where he is. I'm not sure where he lives, but he's been seen now multiple times wearing, wearing Adidas predators, gold, all gold Adidas predators oh yeah with like street clothes with like normal clothing. Um, which of us do you think is the likeliest to wear soccer boots with normal clothes?
00:19:13
Speaker
I think it's Devin. I think it's me, but it's, but by accident, like I forgot to take them off before I got on the subway. I don't think so. I don't think that's what it is. I think it's full spikes that that he's wearing. Yeah, no, it's full. as I think it's full spike. They don't make those without spikes unless he's like sanding them off, which would require like, I mean, that's another level. If he's like modifying them beyond just so he can wear them as street shoes. Here's why Devin, here's why the answer is Devin. How was it? I do it by mistake.
00:19:41
Speaker
It's because you would find some practical use a that soccer boots fill and justify it and wear them out of the house. And I think if I'm, I would imagine that you would do this with like very old soccer boots. Like you would be like, I need shoes that do X.
00:19:59
Speaker
Oh, I got my old soccer boots from like 11 years ago and wear some like 2008 Nike T-empos or whatever. I think that's exactly what I have. I think that's exactly what they are. And I think I might even be awfully close to the year.
00:20:22
Speaker
What's the practical use for them though? Like thanks for anybody how can you even i thought like what are you doing? Are you running in the park? Like what I don't understand. I think if you're scaling like a cinder block wall and you want something to grab onto the ah grout gutters. No, they got the, you know, they get this the stiff foot plate, you know, good support. I'm sure. Very noisy. Very noisy. A little noisy. Not very, not very like stealth.
00:20:50
Speaker
I just I don't I don't quite get the the look. I I was watching it. I watched so many different reels of that dude because I was just interested. Like I put it just. yeah I mean, look, if you put you can pull it off, you pull off. It's whatever. Here's what I think is that like soccer boots in Europe, certain soccer boots in Europe have that like Air Jordan level like aura about them.
00:21:17
Speaker
Predators are certainly one of those boots. Like a lot of very famous Adidas athletes over the years have worn various versions of predators. And like, but you can't wear them, you know? You can't wear them unless you're like on the pitch. Whereas like Jordans, we've we've always been wearing Jordans, like to school and on dates and since I wore Jordans to prom. But it's like, if I grew up in England and I saw my heroes wearing like predators, I'd be like, damn it. I want to wear predators to prom.
00:21:50
Speaker
yeah What does that dance floor sound like? like There's no way. and like that like The clickety-clack. Right. It's like Riverdance. Listen, I would have said you. I would have said you just because you're just like, no, I can pull this off. like i'm the likeliest to own I'm the likeliest to own gold predators. Devin is the likeliest to wear them in public.
00:22:14
Speaker
Right. But they wouldn't be the gold predators. that's gold right right I would have the $320 like exclusive, like the real ones. I would put them in like a, ah they'd be right back there. I'd look at them every like 70 days, blow the dust off and put them right back on the shelf. Right. Devin's wearing them 15 years from now because I passed them down to him. That's right. And it's like, you know, and it's a little slushy outside. Right. That's right. It's I got, I got to get somewhere in a blizzard.
00:22:45
Speaker
And it's that like layer of ice over top of the snow. Right. Or just going studs up on one of the boys, just to remind them. Remind them.
00:23:00
Speaker
we do We do play inside soccer, as we call it, down in the basement. I got the gym mats covering the whole big space down there. And we do play. And it gets, especially between the, I'm ref. They used to play against me that I don't want to anymore. but Now they play against each other, and I'm ref. and like It's a derby every time. Yeah, every time. The intensity. it's said The thing is, it starts easy. right So i'm not I'm not calling that much. And then it's like out of control, and I've got to start calling more aggressively. And it's it's tough. and Actually, I have thought about it watching matches. like You really are doing it strategically, I think. You have to you have to pick your spots so that you're
00:23:44
Speaker
very explicitly setting a tone for the thing. not Not because this was or wasn't a foul, but because like you need them to know that that foul was over the line. But they can get away with a little bit over here, because you know in the interest of a lively game. Now I need to know, are there cards? Is there cards? There are cards. How many cards can I get? I mean, it's only one-on-one. Normal, yeah. What happens if I just go studs up? What happens? Straight red. Rematch.
00:24:14
Speaker
You started over. ah Suspended for the next match. st empty goal I so many records. that This reminds me of like, cause I've talked about this with Jay, like growing up with so many cousins, like around me, there was always like,
00:24:32
Speaker
like especially with the boy cousins like we we just always constantly going at each other like just like in the basement it's a ping pong match the ping pong match turns into an absolute fist fight like fights of of going into it then after that like that that gets put away and then we have a sock and then the sock becomes like the football And then now we're playing sock football. And now at first it was too in touch, but then I got i got pushed into the into the drywall, you know make a hole. Now I'm going to get in trouble anyway. So now I have nothing
Sibling Rivalry: Childhood Games and Competitive Spirit
00:25:03
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to lose. So I'm out here just like Sean Taylor, just looking for somebody to go through. I'm just going full speed at people. And like you're just like, what are we doing? But it's it's like primordial. just I just want to win. I just want to beat the living hell out of my cousin.
00:25:19
Speaker
Like that's i like, I love that you had that you're doing this with the boys. I'm like, it's continuing. It's continuing. It's a good time. But see, I never experienced that's what's interesting is seeing it in them. It's like uncomfortable for me because you know, I grew up I had a, you know, older sibling who wasn't always around and we didn't get along. And I didn't have cousins I saw very often I had one cousin I saw basically ever and I think I saw him twice between birth and age 18 side you know Other than that, it was like I was in this little peaceful community of like children of hippies and there was like none of this happening. I so i don't i can't i like don't understand it when I see it in them. I'm like, where's the line where they're happy about this and enjoying this? and We'll look back on this fondly versus like you know one of them has got a scar on his face that the other put there at some point. How how many of those is okay?
00:26:15
Speaker
The answer is is that it just keeps going. And if they are willing to keep playing, then that means that they're loving it. Because if they actually hated the other person or resentment, they wouldn't even go there. They wouldn't go there. But if they do, then they'd absolutely love it.
00:26:28
Speaker
because like we would get, it like when we would get into the fist fights, like, you know, an hour later, you know, we'd be upstairs, you know, watching some, some like crappy thing on Nickelodeon and we were like, you know, what's fine. And then we just, and then the next day I couldn't wait to wake up the next day and call my cousin and be like, Hey, let's go. Come on, Mike. Come on. Come on through. Like, it's just like when you grow up with boys, I don't know. You just like, you feel like that's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to like,
00:26:55
Speaker
Get to the point where you barely, where you almost kill each other, then hug it out and then walk away and then have a sandwich. I think that, I think you just perfectly described like Oasis getting back together.
00:27:13
Speaker
In high school, senior skip gate doesn't count. Did you ditch school? Like, was this a thing that you did? Or did you just always go to school every single day?
00:27:25
Speaker
I'm going to let Devin answer this first. Yeah, I spent some time outside the building off the property. Um, yeah, yeah, I did. We used to run to seven. By the way, I had you as a deadlock. I would have put all my money that you definitely did school. Yeah.
00:27:44
Speaker
Yep. when When, you know, you had to ride the line. I was ah in private school at that point. And so there's like, you know, where the edge is where like, uh, the trouble gets more real after a certain volume of it. So you come back on the other side of the line for a while and everybody goes out without you and like, I can't today, like, you know, there'd be consequences. And then you kind of wait it out, but really you're like filling your quota.
00:28:09
Speaker
Yeah. Junior year is the year of that matters. You got to show up for your junior year, but if you've taken every, if you've taken care of everything in your junior year, you can slack off in your senior year. I was a different student, not a different student, like grades wise, but junior year, I think I had perfect ten attendance and senior year. I almost definitely skipped some, some days. I can't exactly remember which days I skipped, but I, I'm certain I did. And then I got suspended and I got several days of detention when I was a senior.
00:28:41
Speaker
Any good stories? None? Uh, sure. Something, something like that. When, when I was a senior, my friends and I, like we were the prank kids. Um, and we, there are, I mean, just endless things that we did that year, but the ones that we got in trouble for were, we started putting up flyers for my high school, for a bowling club at my high school, which did not exist.
00:29:10
Speaker
And at first it was just like, let's see if we can get a bunch of kids to go to like, uh, to stay after school and like go to a certain room after school, like meet up for Polish club that like doesn't exist. Uh, and then it turned into my friend Steve who worked at the Goodwill would bring what, like anytime a bowling ball would show up at the Goodwill, he would like grab it and then bring it into school. And we would just be like bowling in the high school or bowling in the hallways, like during homeroom. I remember like my friends through a bowling ball through like the front door.
00:29:41
Speaker
Like the glass front door through the drop ceiling. We would like throw it down the stairs. Um, we would like set up trash cans, a bowl, like, where is this J? What happened to this J? We bring it back. What is happening? That was, uh, I've never heard the story. Two nothing two days. Did I get detention for that? I think I got detention for that. And then I got suspended. So, you know, they're like, you know, they put you all in the gym for the big like group class picture. Um,
00:30:09
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And you take the one picture, there's like the one serious picture where y'all just like, you know, sitting there. And then there's like the crazy picture where they like give you signs to hold up. And there's like balloons and glitter and streamers or whatever. And they made the mistake of giving me and my friends, it wasn't, I mean, I was, they didn't give it to me. They gave it to one of my friends, uh, signed to hold up to said like, you know, class of 1997 or seniors would have held set. Um, and my friend like immediately grabbed the sign and flipped it over.
00:30:34
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and grabbed a big black marker. Uh, and I think wrote Satan and big letters and six, six, six, and we all held it up. And anybody who had their hand on the sign, got a day of in like proper out of school or like in school? No, it was in school. Yeah. In theory of people showed up for bowling club and y'all just weren't there. Would, would they not just start a bowling club then?
00:30:59
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Yeah. I mean, one would think, you know, yeah but that didn't happen. It didn't materialize. No. Was there a mission statement for it or was it just like, we didn't get this far? No, it was, I believe it was watch your ankles asshole.