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Crooked River Cast Show 63

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  • Tulsi Resigns.
  • Trump on the $250 bill.
  • House Oversight Committee investigates Ohio Medicaid.
  • Luke Rosiak interviewed by Jack Windsor on Ohio Medicaid fraud. 
  • Dr. Oz says Dewine is a hell of a guy. 
  • Don’t forget about Ohio’s daycare fraud.
  • Subscribe and share the show. Leave a comment.
  • How much does free tuition cost? 
  • Dewine halts data center tax breaks.
  • Greenbriar middle school principle resigns. 

Good Things:

  • The Winking Lizard is #1.
  • The aerial saw is back!
Transcript

Introduction to Crooked Rivercast

00:00:12
Speaker
This is the Crooked Rivercast, and we are Rob and Tom, two guys just trying to keep track of what is going on in the great state of Ohio.
00:00:23
Speaker
This is show 63 for the week of June 1st. Damn, it's June of 2026. What's going on? What's going on this one? Let's get going. I got places to go. Come on.
00:00:46
Speaker
Yeah, we got to get to show on the

Family Trip Plans and Buc-ee's Experience

00:00:47
Speaker
road. I got i got things to do. Yeah, you got to get out town. I know. we're I'm taking the family, dragging them, putting them in the truck and dragging them the new Buc-ee's.
00:00:57
Speaker
yeah Yay. Where's my cheers? Ah, here we go.
00:01:07
Speaker
No, not really. We're going to Kings Island in that area. But when I mentioned to people, they're like, oh, you're going to be really close to the Buc-ee's. I'm like, okay. What the heck is it with the Buc-ee's?
00:01:19
Speaker
Well, everybody know gas station with 120 gas pumps? No, but okay. That's, that's something to see. But I remember when it came out, when they announced couple of months ago, the interviews, don't know if we, did we talk about, think we might've talked about on the show. I think, I think we might've made fun of people on the show, but maybe not.
00:01:38
Speaker
People driving two to three hours. to go to a gas station to wait in line to get in the gas station for another two hours. People are doing that?
00:01:50
Speaker
Yes, they were. And they probably still are. I mean, their lines were all the way backed up on the freeway. I remember. was like, okay, I get it Well, the food, i mean, okay.
00:02:03
Speaker
Gas station food. ah It could be gourmet, and I'm still not driving two hours and waiting two hours in line. No, I'll wait three, four months and then go like it was To me, it was a very disgusting example of, well, America.
00:02:23
Speaker
I'm going to a Buc-ee's. That's what I'm going to do with my day. I'm going to a Buc-ee's. We're going to sit there day just we get some corn dog and get gas, 120 gas pump.
00:02:32
Speaker
Anyway, so we might use though. I mean, great. I mean, it's it's supposed to be really nice. Clean and all this stuff. I said, that's great. But still, you're talking about five hours out of my day. It's not that good. I don't care. I don't care how good it is. It's not that good.
00:02:44
Speaker
Honey, we need to go to the gas station. Hop in. Hop on in, family. We're going to bookies. Is that a music park that? No, it's a gas station. Oh, boy.
00:02:56
Speaker
Anyway. So anyway, yeah, we got to head in the car later today. Do little, of spend a little tourism money in Ohio, which is always good.

Gay Pride Month and Public Perceptions

00:03:06
Speaker
But i think I think we'd start to show off something different because i think we need to warn our our listeners that when this show comes out Monday, June 1st, warning people, Gay Pride Month is here.
00:03:23
Speaker
Fag month.
00:03:27
Speaker
Stay away from downtown Cleveland for the next four weeks, please. Because you never know what you might run into because everybody's very proud about, I mean, we know what, let's pride is a sin, right?
00:03:41
Speaker
Let's, well, it might be a couple more there before you get to pride, but let's, let's hear from the great wisdom of, of our, of our dear late friend, Norm MacDonald on, on, on,
00:03:55
Speaker
Gay pride. It seems like strange thing to be proud of, but let's see what he thinks. And the great flocks. And so I was talking about, cause I went to this gay pride gary shaley and I saw in it, there were these an old men and old ladies, like with these signs that said, we are proud of our gay son, you know? And so I was saying, that's an odd thing to be proud of, you know, because it's not an achievement, you know, it's not like something you work all your life to be gay or anything that.
00:04:22
Speaker
And, Not safe for work. I just wondered. I had a hard time believing that these 50-, 60-year-old men are actually bragging, you know, at work. Like, there hey, ah Bill, you know, ah my kid. Oh, my God, we're proud of him, Johnny. He ah graduated from Harvard, you know, ah first in his class, you know what I mean? Now he's articling over at a law firm. and Oh, yeah, he loves cock.
00:04:44
Speaker
This kid. They did enough. He can't get enough cock in his mouth, his ass. His kids always
00:04:58
Speaker
cook. I got a picture of the boy here sucking another man's cock. I want to show it to you. oh Oh, we miss you, Norm.
00:05:09
Speaker
Norm was something else. Oh, we miss you. ah You know, no it is he's got a point. He's got a great point. It is a weird kind of, I mean, Okay.
00:05:20
Speaker
enough for But just so you want, just so you be prepared people. lots Lots of rainbows going around. Well, last year it was diluted.
00:05:32
Speaker
you'll see i hope it's a little more diluted this year, right? Yes. And i refrained on pulling any articles on it because there was a couple of popping. I'm like, nah, no.
00:05:43
Speaker
I mean, if you're a dude and you're going to be sucking cock, just keep it to yourself and keep it in your own room. I don't care what you do, but why do you have to parade yourself around the city for for a month? ah You know, and at one point they were just, hey, look,
00:05:57
Speaker
Look at us. We're gay. We're walking around. Now there's just debauchery all throughout the streets. If you see a lot of these videos, it's, and people are bringing their kids. Oh yeah. The pride parade. Gay men's butts all over the streets, riding bikes. Wait, you see more than that.
00:06:12
Speaker
Well, yeah. If you're lucky, it's only a hairy butt or two. And why is it that a guy gets turned on by a hairy ass? Well, he was born that way, Tom.
00:06:25
Speaker
Hmm. Anyway. Like, I don't i don't care. what Do what you want to do. But why do you got to? Why do you need a whole month? I will get to that next week. But speaking of. had no segue from that, into I guess.
00:06:41
Speaker
I just I thought we'd mention. You know what? When I lived in l L.A., there was ah me and my friends were in there driving. I forget where where we were going, but we were on our way.
00:06:52
Speaker
i think we were headed to Venice Beach. And I saw a couple of guys. We were stopped at a light and saw a couple of guys holding hands walking down the street. My friend yells out the window.
00:07:05
Speaker
Hey, how come you guys don't like pussy? oh Did he answer? They did answer. Guess what they said? Hmm. No idea.
00:07:17
Speaker
Oh, shut up. Oh, stop it. Hey, you do that pretty well. Very well, yes. I have lots of practice. ah West Hollywood.
00:07:32
Speaker
I think I got that when used to i used to listen to, over and over again, when listened Eddie Murphy and some of his live skits from the 80s. And he did the one...
00:07:42
Speaker
all the different sirens around the world. is And they get to San Francisco and I was like, woo, woo, pull over, pull over. That's right. I forgot. Was that from, ah that was live or was One of his live skits because he was walking. I i can see i can tell you, we're looking at my ass. My ass gets all hot and all these gates. I got to keep moving. Got to keep moving.
00:08:03
Speaker
That was from his live show, not from Saturday Night. No, no, yeah, from this one of his couple. Probably Delirious, I think. yeah're Delirious and Raw were the two big ones, and we had those on tape, on audio tape. We would just listen to them. I mean, I can't believe our parents.
00:08:15
Speaker
Well, have older brothers, so that's probably how I got away with it, but I'm not sure how they got away with it.

Tulsi Gabbard's Resignation: Reasons and Impact

00:08:21
Speaker
that's it Pull over. And let's see, where else can we segue from that into, um we didn't mention we did forget to mention last week that Tulsi Gabbard has resigned as DNI, which I think we talked after the show is is probably one of the biggest disappointments we've seen the administration so far.
00:08:42
Speaker
But really the most, more disappointment was the reason they were claiming that she resigned was Because her and Trump are at odds over the Iran war. Was that what it was? they were ah ah Laura Loomer said she was going to resign a few weeks before.
00:09:01
Speaker
and then people started ah speculating that it was because she wasn't aligning with, or Trump wasn't aligning with her. she wasn't what Whichever way you want to say it. And what was the real reason?
00:09:15
Speaker
Well, it looks like her husband has a rare case of bone disease, ah cancer. Bone cancer. Yeah. Yeah. Just sick and disgusting. Sick and disgusting. Oh, you know what? I should have pulled it. Tweets, whatever the hell you call them nowadays, of like ah Schumer. Not Schumer. Oh, who's Pencil Neck?
00:09:34
Speaker
I forget his name. Pencil Neck. Pencil Neck. that Yeah.
00:09:40
Speaker
i Anyways, ah some of the some of the congressmen, what they were writing on X about Tulsi was disgusting. Oh, okay. ah Schiff?
00:09:52
Speaker
Yeah, Adam Schiff. I knew I i felt it. I could tell was somewhere on the tip of my tongue. Him and and i' I think Schumer also. There was a there was a few that was just gross.
00:10:06
Speaker
Yeah, they kind of ate ate a little... a little little turd for that. got massively called out. Not that it matters because most... I mean, if you got TDS, I mean, it's you're kind of pointless.
00:10:19
Speaker
yeah Helpless, I should say. ah So, yeah, he she resigned. That's guy actually a big disappointment. I was i was really... that That was one of my most, I i liked her as one appointment because i as director where she was at, the director of national intelligence, I thought she was perfect. Former military, very anti- anti-war kind of stuff. So we'll see what.
00:10:42
Speaker
She might be the new face of the, or the face of the new democratic party when it comes around. Yeah. Yeah. and And for all the all the conservatives out there that think she's conservative, and she's not.
00:10:57
Speaker
She's just not far left. Yeah, she's a close to, I think closer you can get to a blue dog Democrat, as they used to call him back. I guess. I don't know what her, mean, she is from Hawaii, so I don't know what her...
00:11:13
Speaker
fiscal ideas are or, or, um, and I, she's come around a little bit on the two way cause she was anti gun. And now she seems to be a little bit more understanding of why the second amendment is important, which is, you know, that's a step in the right direction.
00:11:31
Speaker
Uh, but would she sign a bill if she was president that banned stuff or a buyback type of thing? She might, you don't, I don't know. Yeah, we have to flush that up. You'd have to it's two get into debate or some hard questioning on that.
00:11:50
Speaker
Yeah, i just you know the thing is? I just hate all the people that are like, oh, Tulsi's awesome. And you know all the conservatives that love her. And it's like, yeah, she's cool. But she's not a conservative.
00:12:02
Speaker
No, and I don't think that's a bad thing to have in certain places. it's It's what they say what made Lincoln such a force because he he wanted to unite the country and all this stuff, and he brought people in from both sides. People, and it actually, not to get in the weeds of it, but it actually hurt after he got assassinated because because of that. But it was it was a way to bring everybody. I mean, you I think having two different sides on the problem is They're so far apart now um in the way it looks, at least. I don't know how far apart they actually are, but as far as the two parties. But anyway, so it's it was always good to have somebody who could push back a little bit.
00:12:47
Speaker
The the ah Democrats are so far left now that if you're in the center, you're right. Yes, exactly. That's where Tulsi is. She's center left for sure.
00:12:58
Speaker
Yeah. But in today's today's game, she's, man, she's a she's a Nazi basically. Yeah. Yeah. ah So, and speaking of Nazis, um they they they want to, this guy, this guy won't stop Trump.
00:13:14
Speaker
She's.
00:13:17
Speaker
I didn't know this was going on. This is a surprise to me. So I pulled the article. Treasury secretary, Scott Bessent said Thursday night that his department has prepared the design for the $250 bill featuring president Donald J. Trump.
00:13:34
Speaker
Now, in anticipation of a bill passing because it has to pass a bill first for the treasury to start working on it. But it's a $250 bill because of a 250 year anniversary of the country.
00:13:46
Speaker
He's saying one's under a rock and it's got Trump's face on it. Now, is that the picture from the indictment?
00:13:59
Speaker
Well, it's basic. when he looks that This is official portrait, which is kind of a re... ah he He redid the... Mugshot. Mugshot, yeah. Yeah, that's what looks like. kind of the same pose, yeah. Yeah. With better lighting.
00:14:13
Speaker
Yeah, it's awesome. and but But there are things they have to get around to. Yeah, they got to get past a bill. will Will they do it? I don't know. Everybody's freaking out because, oh, and like no, we're just getting it ready. that's go be There's no way that's going to pass. No.
00:14:27
Speaker
And and mainly mainly it's because there's two laws that say ah the you can't have anybody that's alive on a bill. And it has to say, in God we trust, which I don't think would be a problem. But the fact that he's still alive. Well, it's not the first time it says.
00:14:46
Speaker
Pardon of me? it's not the I think I said somewhere in an article, it's not the first time we've had somebody alive on the- they passed a bill. Oh, they pay oh they passed it. Okay. The Congress has to pass a bill to have him on there. And ah it was it also, I think those were- Coolidge did it. Coolidge and- i was commemorative, Half dollar coin. Yeah.
00:15:07
Speaker
Yeah. So- but Well- $50 bill would be cool. Yeah, it replaces the $100 bill. At this point, the way things are going. you you Might as well cancel the $100 bill. or yeah got bring back the five Do we have a $500 bill anymore? i remember.
00:15:24
Speaker
I don't think so, no. We're going to have to bring that one back, too, get a just to fill up my gas tank. Oh, hey.
00:15:34
Speaker
Hey, no. All right. But they can do a coin without passing a boat. Oh. Actually, that's what they were talking about. Coolidge, I think. Yeah, half dollar coin.
00:15:45
Speaker
Yeah. ah was not That was official legal. tent Okay, yeah. so they can they can take the half dollar coin and put him as a 250th year coin. And the other thing is at this point, let's say they pass the bill Monday.
00:16:01
Speaker
Mm-hmm. You know, in honor of Gay Pride Month, they pass a bill to put Trump's face because he's been the first first president to be in favor of gay marriage. So he should probably be honored next month.
00:16:15
Speaker
That'd be hilarious. I know. Let's say I just, it just kind kind of dawned on me as i as I was saying that. But if they, if they were to get it, let's say they pass it Monday. Are you going to, are we going to see bills before? but We're not going are we going see bills before the of July?
00:16:31
Speaker
I don't know. government i don't know how fast. Would we get them before the end of the year? but They might. Yeah, actually, I think they might. they i mean, they could. yeah They could, but would they, you know? I don't know. that's That's the first thing. I'm like, you should have done this last year. i i I'm kind of curious as to when when did the Byzantinium quarter, which was 1976,
00:16:55
Speaker
when like When did it when did get into circulation? Yeah. I'm curious about that. Anyways, yeah ah you know what they what the White House should do is put out gay pride month flags with Trump's portrait on there.
00:17:07
Speaker
That was the first president that. Yes, the first president of the campaign on gay marriage being in favor of it. Yeah, they should. i mean, i still like I still want the ah trans flag that ah that I have a meme of that says make asylums great again. i think that should be up at the White House too.
00:17:25
Speaker
Oh, that'd be good too. Yeah, that'd be really good. So let's check that one off and onto some not as not as fun stuff. not as This Medicaid fraud thing just keeps rolling. Now we've got...
00:17:41
Speaker
that the House Oversight Committee is now looking into what's going on with this Medicaid fraud that, i mean, we've been talking about for a year here at the Crooked Rivercast.
00:17:55
Speaker
But what does that mean? So I tried to look it up. I wanted to add a news story about this. You've got a tweet or an ex-post from Oh, what's the guy's name now?
00:18:10
Speaker
Uh, oh, Brandon Gill, representative Brandon Gill. He is in charge. He's ahead of the fraud committee or something they put in place. that what it was? Yep. Uh, I should have pulled the audio, but he's he's kind of, it was kind of boring. So I didn't bother, but. Oh, okay. Okay.
00:18:27
Speaker
um He said, you know, hundreds are yeah, hunt yes or ah Congress, so Congressional Oversight Committee is going to start looking into it.
00:18:38
Speaker
And I started searching like early in a week. Okay, what's going on? what are they going to do? What's their first steps? Nothing. I can't find any, thing I can find when I search Ohio. So I did Oversight Committee, Ohio Medicaid Fraud 2026.
00:18:57
Speaker
Only I can get is articles about the fact that it's the GOP in charge of Ohio. that's That's basically it. Yeah, well, that's how they're going to frame it. sure Yeah.
00:19:09
Speaker
the Nobody's talking about anything ah of any substance. It's unproven. Oh, it's ah yes. And so i I did pull an article from News Nation last minute, this morning, like 20 minutes ago. So I'm sure you haven't seen it yet. Oh, is it in their notes?
00:19:27
Speaker
Yeah, I put it in there 20, 30 minutes ago, probably. And the reason I pulled that is because it's not even... Oh, yeah. With Vivek on the thing? Yeah, Vivek on the cover. Okay. And one of the reasons I pulled is because, know, Ramaswamy is out campaigning on this and saying, you know, I want to do this, that. And he's got a couple of, I guess, a couple ideas off the go have to cuff, probably before he even looked at it saying, hey, what can we do? What can we do? One of the things is he wants to, I guess if you find fraud, there's a there's a breakdown of who keeps the money as far as a federal and state.
00:20:01
Speaker
And Ramaswamy's first thing was, well, let's switch this. Let's say Ohio keeps 65 cents to every dollar. The federal government gets, which which is and up from, would have been up from 35 cents is what they get now. So if we find fraud, we keep 35 cents per dollar.
00:20:17
Speaker
And if the federal government gets the rest, then he wants to reverse it. Yeah. no What kind of deal is he going to make? What you mean How would he get that? You have to make some kind of deal.
00:20:29
Speaker
Yeah, I would imagine you have to renegotiate it with whatever the agreement with the federal government is. That would be my guess. but But the important number for me is he projects that if they did this, it would bring the state back to the state $3.1 billion. dollars
00:20:47
Speaker
That's a lot of freaking money at 65%. Mm-hmm. a Now that's a projection. That's what he's saying. I'm sure, you know, let's say it's half that. Let's say they're just way blown out of proportion. And it's really 50% that. You're still talking about a billion and a half dollars, which is actually like closer to $3 billion dollars because, or, you know, four or $5 billion dollars because that's only 65% of that, of the actual fraud.
00:21:12
Speaker
yeah The next thing is the federal government's own data complicates the picture. The Center for medicaid Medicare and Medicaid Service said in January 2026 that a proper payment measurement is not a measure of fraud and that of the $37.39 billion dollars in flagged Medicare payments that year, which is 2026, more than 77% were rejected over missing paperwork rather than fraud or abuse.
00:21:48
Speaker
The budget for Medicaid is $47 billion. So in 2026, $37.39 billion was flagged for having improper something or other.
00:22:02
Speaker
Hello? What the heck is going on?
00:22:07
Speaker
But does anybody care? Anybody care actually the question I keep coming to my head. Does anybody really give a shit? No. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. But what what i am sure of is, well, there's definitely fraud. And it's weird. It strains the media.
00:22:28
Speaker
but let's So here's a clip from, had a couple clips from, so Luke luke Rosniak roac is in Ohio again. He's at an event for Vivek, whose campaign event, so Vivek was speaking on the fraud and stuff like that.
00:22:46
Speaker
And Jack Windsor catches up with Luke and they have a little conversation and and and Luke has a good observation on, you know, on what what he sees when he comes in Ohio. and And let's hear his conversation in a couple minutes here.
00:23:00
Speaker
Here with Luke Rosiak, The Daily Wire. Luke, one of the things that that kind of caught my attention, you heard from the press back here when they were asking questions today. Many of them went back to, well, Republicans have been in control and isn't this a Republican issue? yeah I want to get your take on it. my My thought is, you know, this is a red state issue. It's a blue state issue. Yeah. Generally, though, Medicaid is run by bureaucrats and many of those bureaucrats actually work for government, or excuse me, public unions, government unions. So what do you make of the press's lack of curiosity beyond, oh, it's a Republican issue? Yeah, their questions were transparently partisan and hostile. And I think it's really sad that they haven't informed. People who live here, it's ironic that if you live in Columbus, you'd actually know more about what's going on in your town by reading the Daily Wire that's based in Tennessee.
00:23:49
Speaker
So I drove by the Columbus Dispatch and yeah yeah buildings fall. The sign is like half broken, which seems symbolic for the level of coverage that I saw. They wrote an article about my article and they never conveyed in any sense what the articles found.
00:24:04
Speaker
They just kept saying a conservative publication, conservative, conservative. And they said something about Medicaid and they never talked about the findings because I think they can't tell the fine. When you talk about all the things I mentioned up there, the few brief examples of people with lengthy criminal records who are then allowed to create these companies that are billing sure of services that can't be verified. It's indefensible.
00:24:29
Speaker
And I also, I think, implicit in my remarks was a criticism of Republican Governor Mike DeWine, who rid the GPS monitoring, which I think is really crazy. um The policy stuff is not really my role. I'm just a fact gatherer. But at the same time, you know, I ah wrote about this fraud that is occurring in a state that's had Republican governors. But I think the choice now is going to be...
00:24:55
Speaker
somebody to the left of Governor DeWine or somebody to the right. i mean, those are the really the two choices. And I mean, I don't think it's a little hard to believe that these local media outlets would have you believe that the Democrat candidate would would be harder on fraud and more willing to cut undeserved Medicaid benefits going to fraudsters than the Republican. Vivek, I think he demonstrated a pretty strong grasp of the issues here, particularly the incentives, which is they're playing with other people's money and they don't care. And Vivek did talk about a plan to change that where they would have a reason and the bureaucrats might actually be motivated to to cut this some of this stuff, which is absurd, just that the building, which think is just like, you know, the headquarters is like a block from here. Why did none of those people go down 10 miles away? I got on an airplane and I found it. It's it's embarrassing. and As you say, it predates.
00:25:46
Speaker
It's not just one gubernatorial administration. It's these bureaucrats that have have been there. um and And it's clear that Ohio needs major change just because they can't afford. He talked about, you know, Medicaid is basically a half the the budget of the state. And Medicaid has basically doubled in the last 10 years. Like, we just can't afford. Like, money is not infinite. Like, something has to change.
00:26:12
Speaker
Hmm. Is Rosie, Rosie yak from Ohio? No, i don't believe so. Okay. I mean, I think he lives in Tennessee cause that's where the daily wires. No, I understand that. I don't think he's from Ohio. No, but he brings up that's. And the next thing is Jack, Jack asked him.
00:26:28
Speaker
I think, I think I left the question in, but maybe not. He asked some, um, you know, who, what other States like, why Ohio? Why'd you pick Ohio? Um, and where's the, where's the fraud really bad and this kind of stuff. We'll see what he says here So ah one final question. i don't want to tip off the bad actors, but you've uncovered a lot in Ohio. Are there other states on your radar? involved Yeah, you know, one of the interesting ones, and I think it is interesting, I'm more than willing to criticize red states. And I think it's more in some ways more interesting because they are. And that and that's the truth that the media outlets won't won't acknowledge here is that they are more likely to do something in response. We could talk about how home health care aid in New York is now the most common job in the state. That's how many people are getting paid by Medicaid to take take care of their own family members. But the truth is New York isn't going to do that do anything about it. Same thing about California. um and One of the reasons that I talked about Ohio is because I thought there was a bigger chance of them actually fixing the problem. And I think today indicated that there are there are people here willing to do the work.
00:27:29
Speaker
um But another state that I want to mention to answer your question is Missouri. Missouri is a deep is ah is ah is a red state that's actually doing quite a bit of this, like yeah I think more than Ohio. i mean, it it basically goes California, New York, Massachusetts, um Missouri, and then Ohio. And so Missouri is five, baby. And they did have ah a fraud conviction yesterday um of one of these home health care aides who was supposed to be taking care of somebody who really was sick, but they weren't going at all. And the person was horrifically abused. They actually won. Nobody showed up to help them.
00:28:02
Speaker
And so it just goes to show that some of these bad actors, they really are quite bad people. And even, you know, the idea that they would demand the government pay them to vacuum their mom's house once a week, I think that's a bad person.
00:28:16
Speaker
I mean, who who wouldn't help their own mother? And so that's what this is about, I think, is rewarding people who are good people who need help and certainly not wanting those incentives to go to to bad people. That's all this is about.
00:28:30
Speaker
Rosiak, investigative reporter Daily Wire. Thanks for your time today Thank you, Jack. And while everybody's complaining about medicaid cuts to Medicaid,
00:28:41
Speaker
wouldn't you think that you were like, Oh, well look ah we can recoup a lot of that money that was

Medicaid Fraud in Ohio: Investigation and Implications

00:28:47
Speaker
cut by making sure that people who are getting this help actually need it.
00:28:55
Speaker
So is Luke right? do you think they think Luke's right about the media? Yeah. Let's, let's, let's test it. Here's, here's the next article. that we have, which is, well, Dr. Oz comes to Ohio and says, Mike DeWine's a swell guy. What a hell of a, he's doing such a great job.
00:29:14
Speaker
Let's hear what the, what's the Morgan has to say.
00:29:20
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Dr. Amanda Oz was in Ohio today talking Medicaid fraud with Governor DeWine. The TV personality turned head of Medicaid. The doctor himself wants to crack down on some types of programs. Now, this comes as the state is already facing tens of millions of dollars in cuts. Your Columbus Bureau reporter Morgan Trowell was in the room and is following through on the massive allegations of fraud.
00:29:42
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Ohio's home health care program allows aging, sick or people with disabilities to stay in their houses while getting care paid for by the state. It's a service Medicaid offers, one that Governor Mike DeWine has stood behind. Keep people in their home where they want to be. And the governor has been defending it for the past week. High profile Republicans like Vivek Ramaswamy, who is running for governor, blames a wine for failing to oversee Medicaid. Individuals who are defrauding the system, claiming to work while not actually working. Ramaswamy and legislative leaders claim that some health care providers paid for by Medicaid are not doing their jobs. And the White House's Medicaid administrator, Dr. Mehmet Oz, says that the federal and state governments need to work together to solve this. We believe Ohio, as almost every state, can do a better job with the guardrails around home health care. He joined DeWine in Dublin, where the governor denied any widespread fraud and says he's been on top of any problem, citing nearly 1,100 Medicaid fraud convictions since he took office. The Medicaid worries come after a conservative publication, The Daily Wire, posted a story alleging rampant yet unproven claims of fraud. We don't want everybody hiring their kids to carry the groceries up the stairs, nor driving everyone to the the doctor's office for a visit. Family members of Medicaid recipients can become certified caregivers. The payment ranges, but some programs pay family caregivers up to $1,800 a month.
00:31:05
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So I asked Oz about the backlash DeWine has been facing. Do you trust him to oversee the program in Ohio? And do do you think that there has been this widespread fraud? Why? I trust Governor DeWine. DeWine supports home health care, saying even with the allegations of fraud, the alternative is much more costly. I dove into state data and found that home health services cost at least four times less than nursing or long-term care facilities. If everyone, for example, in Ohio that is getting this kind of care, his home health care, had to be in a nursing home, that would have cost us about $600 million dollars a year. DeWine says that we can put in more guardrails, but he will fight for the program to continue. At the Ohio State House, I'm your Columbus Bureau reporter, Morgan Trout.
00:31:52
Speaker
Morgan reports about this as if she's making an extra $1,800 a month Let's look at your, what kind of situation do you have with your grandparents? your Grandparents, probably.
00:32:07
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, the the point of this was to money. Because journalists don't make dick, so.
00:32:14
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Anyway, um okay. you moving Moving along, not even going to take that bait, but they the whole point of this program was to save money. As Luke brought up, we brought up in the clip last week or week before, i think it was last week, when he's in front of the state, Ohio state legislature, and they're saying, well, this is here to save money. Remember we talked about the suicidal empathy and in our state legislature.
00:32:35
Speaker
And... He's like, yeah, but you don't have a thousand people. If you had a thousand people going to a nursing home and then now you had 500 of them staying home, that would save money. But what you have now is a thousand people eligible for a nursing home. And now you have a hundred thousand people who are, you know, it it's not, it's what's happened is we've gone from $27 billion dollars in this article.
00:32:58
Speaker
I talked about with a vague from news nation. In the last 10 years, it's gone from $27 billion dollars to $47 billion dollars a year.
00:33:11
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It even as member number of enrollees stayed largely flat.
00:33:21
Speaker
So what the heck's going on?
00:33:24
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Well, it's not the first time we've heard of this, right? We talked last week again, we we talked about... Matt Duvall or Duvilla.
00:33:37
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he had He had mentioned Medicaid fraud, but it wasn't even this Medicaid fraud. He mentioned eligibility Medicaid fraud, meaning there are people on Medicaid who... don't fit the criteria as far as your finances.
00:33:51
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And they're pretty harsh. So when I'm i'm here, i I've heard a couple of people over the last couple of years talk about it and they've got to, you know, you got to reduce down to a certain amount of money. You can't have a house, you can't have a car. all It's pretty harsh.
00:34:03
Speaker
But Luke or Matt Duvillo was talking about a large amount of people who shouldn't be on Medicaid because they have assets that disqualify them. And he's talking about a couple billion dollars just for that.
00:34:15
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But it, Again, not the first time we talked about it.
00:34:23
Speaker
Oh, DeWine. um Because the next thing you had was, remember we pulled the stories for Mehek Cook? Mm-hmm.
00:34:35
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That was a couple months ago. you know Yeah, it was like at least three, four months ago. Yeah, I think so. Well, she posted in the video saying, hey, I told you so. I got i pulled a couple from that. Let's listen to what she has to say because she's been wording this for a while and it's interesting how far up she went and nothing happens. here you go.
00:34:53
Speaker
This past December, whistleblowers came to me and they started warning about what they believe to be massive Medicaid home health care fraud here in the state of Ohio. They weren't just talking about a few bad claims. They were actually describing what they believe to be systemic fraud pipeline right here in Columbus. These whistleblowers told me providers were being pressured to rubber stamp Hope health care paperwork.
00:35:17
Speaker
And for people who actually didn't medically need it they said individuals would come into their office, ask for home healthcare care services. Some appear to be actually coached on what to say to get those services with somebody many times who didn't even speak English. So you had a translator in the office and they were pushing aggressively for paperwork to be approved. But these providers did the right thing. They conducted physical exams. They evaluated the person that was pushing for home health care services. And when the person didn't qualify, they flat out denied them. They refused to rubber stamp Medicaid paperwork, which was the right thing to do. The whistleblowers told me much of the pressure that they were seeing was actually coming through individuals
00:36:01
Speaker
and businesses operating within the Somali, Bhutanese, and Nepalese communities here in Ohio. We're going everywhere. We're going everywhere. 100%. There's 34 home health care services in this building. Of course we're going to be in a building with 34 home health care services. Why we see one video of you guys going to white business?
00:36:27
Speaker
going into a and health care right going into another business why are you going on somebody tell me We have not been profiling. There's 34 here. We've knocked on the door of every 34 businesses here. And they said that some of the healthcare agencies were even... Do you think somebody had talking points?
00:36:42
Speaker
yeah I haven't seen one video. You guys go to white place. we They walk into a place with home healthcare aides and knocking on doors. We have no idea. She has no idea who's there. who assume there was probably Somalian or some something like that. But how do you know?
00:36:57
Speaker
So and at all 35 in that building are Somalians? Huh. That seems a little odd, don't you think? Let's Going so far enough to suggesting, and I quote, I will make this worth your while if you approve the paperwork.
00:37:13
Speaker
Again, these providers flat out say, no, this is not about health care anymore. This is an alleged fraud operation that we uncovered back in December. These whistleblowers actually tried to sound the alarm long before the public even knew anything about this. These whistleblowers went to legislators in the state of Ohio, state office holders. They even went to the attorney general's office. They repeatedly were ignored at the highest levels.
00:37:41
Speaker
interesting. Hmm. Hmm. I wonder, I mean, sounds, sounds kind of like there's maybe some evidence there at least.
00:37:53
Speaker
Morgan, anything? Have you and even looked into it are you just worried about that? It's unproven. It's unproven. there's I mean, it's allegations that are unproven. She's a reporter, journalist, right?
00:38:04
Speaker
What the heck are allegations? That's why they call them allegations. but she in her In that article that we you used, she wrote unproven allegations like, I think...
00:38:19
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Three different times in a short article. It's ridiculous. Yeah. First paragraph, the allegations of widespread issue are currently unproven. Yeah. Then there's another time she writes it a little bit down and then towards the end too.
00:38:34
Speaker
It's strange because it's like the media wants to blame the Republicans, but it feels like they know if they do, they're admitting the program is flawed. And it needs needs to be cut because at's the same at one point they're they're complaining that evil evil Republicans, evil Trump are cutting Medicaid.
00:38:53
Speaker
People are dying. They're going to die alone in their house. This is funny because you they don't seem to want to ever... rag on government unless it's Republican.
00:39:06
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things And this is, they know is kind of a social program. they have a hard, they're defend, they're going to defend what their, what they believe in, you know.
00:39:17
Speaker
What did Luke say? why Why come to Ohio? Well, yeah, go to you go to a GOP state because you think there's probably a better chance they're going to do with something about it because when you go to when you go to Minnesota, what do you get? You're a racist. He's talking about New York.
00:39:30
Speaker
ah New York State having the most common job now is home health care aid. And they're not going to do anything. He can go to New York all he wants. They're not going do anything about it. And if they do, they're going they're going to do some, some put lipstick on the pig, basically, and do some cosmetic BS in the background. The same stuff happens. So why do you think you're going to go to a GOP run state?
00:39:48
Speaker
Because somebody's actually going to something about it. Maybe, maybe. Doubtful. Maybe. Well, it's election year. So maybe. Well, yeah, they'll say they'll do something. Yeah. And then what Vivek is saying on this his is the incentives.
00:40:03
Speaker
incentivize the lawmakers to crack down on this because you'll get more money back. That's, that was his whole point in changing that, that 6535 split between the federal government. And when you find fraud, it's I'm like, I don't know. I think, I think that's something, I guess. I don't know.
00:40:20
Speaker
It probably won't do a damn thing, but know. People ask, you're rather, cause I talk to people a lot about, cause you, you're in the,
00:40:33
Speaker
talking to people about labor and trying to find, you know, trying to find warehouse people or construction workers. And the common question comes up is how do they how do people survive? How do people like sit at home, entire families sit at home and survive without going to work?
00:40:54
Speaker
Hello, this is how. This is one of the ways. Because tell people there's there are plenty of programs out there you could probably pull $50,000 to $60,000 a year if you were if you were halfway decent at it.
00:41:08
Speaker
And here's a good way.
00:41:11
Speaker
Because let's listen to what Mehek says again on kind of go to the AG, what happens, and what she thinks is you how much this is worth and how big this can be.
00:41:25
Speaker
And here's why this matters. Ohio's own Medicaid reimbursement rates show exactly how home healthcare care fraud actually can open and explode in terms of fraud operations. One elderly or older recipient can actually gain 75 $90,000 a year of personal care billing through high daily hours that are authorized. So a family member can come in and take care of a parent, two parents, you can push that number to 180,000. And then you add your in-laws in one household, you can start making $250,000 plus for Medicaid billing. This is the financial incentive. This is a vulnerability. And this is what the whistleblowers were trying to warn the state about months and months ago, this could have been stopped a year ago. After I brought this information forward to the attorney general's office, initially they asked me for the names of my whistleblowers. Now as an attorney, I said, no, attorney client privilege. But I did ask them one simple question. Can you protect these whistleblowers? Because then 100% I'll give you the names. They told me no. So I refused. The attorney general's office then called me back and they said they had orders from higher up. We know who that is.
00:42:33
Speaker
that they could subpoena me before a grand jury and that I would be protected, but they needed the names of the whistleblowers. So I asked again, you subpoena me, you put me in front of a grand jury. Great. You're going to protect my kind of confidentiality. But what about the whistleblowers, the ones that are actually fearing for their lives? Can you protect them? They said no. They continued to press me. They actually went so far to threaten subpoenas. And at one point, they even floated the idea of reading off names of everybody who's been a confidential informant that has come forward to their office. And all I had to do was confirm or deny if that was the individual
00:43:11
Speaker
were my whistleblowers. And again, I said, absolutely not. That's unethical. That would actually violate attorney-client privilege and they should know better being attorneys. I wonder why they wanted all that info.
00:43:25
Speaker
Mehek thinks to pressure people, intimidate them possibly. Yeah.
00:43:34
Speaker
And I think this is just scratching the surface, to be honest with you. The tip of the iceberg, right? We haven't even talked much about, we I think we talked touched a little bit on this, but there's a whole other part of this, medical transport companies filling the state.
00:43:48
Speaker
Yep. and the influc And the huge number of them in Columbus, like we've got like thousands of these companies in Ohio. And it's the same it's the same it's the same thing. if You go to a a building and they've got three or four companies on one address.
00:44:04
Speaker
in a massive building with a bunch of, you know, no no trucks anywhere. you don't see like vans or anything. It's just, it's the same exact thing because you can bill hourly, taking people to the doctor and back. They need somebody to take them there when you're elderly so they can you can charge for that.
00:44:22
Speaker
Nothing to see here. but Wait, oh we yeah, because you least got to have... Move on! Nothing to see here! Please, Pittsburgh! Nothing going on. I'm sure it's completely above board. And DeWine, he's a swell guy.
00:44:40
Speaker
But that's, you know, that's that's Medicaid fraud. But let's not forget. Let's not forget. There's all the fraud, of course. There is. Yeah. Again, my, my, my thesis is 50% of our budget is fraud.
00:44:55
Speaker
And on, on this stupid website that keeps popping up an ad before I even get to make it a reader. Ohio cracks down to Columbus daycare providers. Forget about the daycare fraud.
00:45:07
Speaker
This, this kind of what started this whole topic a year ago in Minnesota, wasn't it? About a year ago, I think. No, six, eight months ago. Yeah. So Ohio lawmakers say they are cracking down on fraud tied to overpayments and publicly funded daycares. at publicly fund acres As state records show, some facilities that receive tens of thousands of dollars in improper payments are still operating in Columbus.
00:45:32
Speaker
So this week, Department of Child and Youth announced it closed 10 daycares in Columbus due to overpayment, overpayments and provider misuse. The overpayment fund funds totaled more than $1 million. So what they do, according to letters sent to the daycare, daycares last year, one facility in Cleveland was overpaid by $48,000. Another daycare in Columbus was overpaid by $40,000. The second Columbus facility would receive $81,000 in overpayments.
00:46:04
Speaker
You know, it's just a a paperwork thing. You know, it's checked a couple extra boxes. Oops, sorry. Uh, inspectors of the department of child and youth said, attendance records reviewed during unannounced visits did not match the attendance.
00:46:20
Speaker
The facility build the state. Huh? Interesting. Kind of what we've been talking about. We talked about, that's what Minnesota was. No children ever show up, but millions of dollars every year get, get billed to this, to an address.
00:46:36
Speaker
So they finally decided after a couple of years to, uh, to close these places. It took him a couple of years. think that's what it says. Something like that. Yeah. Uh, do you, yeah.
00:46:51
Speaker
Last year they sent letters to daycare facilities. Some of them they kept open, I guess. They said, why are three of them open? Well, because they paid the money back. Well, okay. They should probably be in jail.
00:47:03
Speaker
It should probably at least be investigated to make sure it was a mistake and not a mistake. What's, uh,
00:47:14
Speaker
Yeah. So just the tip of the iceberg. There's fraud. Oh my gosh. 50% people, 50%. But again, does anybody care?
00:47:26
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00:47:38
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00:47:53
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00:48:02
Speaker
right. Speaking of more fraud and scams, how much do you think free tuition costs? It's free, Rob. This really, i did I pulled this because it's it was the headline of the week. I went a little nutso on X with this, but here's the headline. Okay.
00:48:21
Speaker
Free college for all Ohio students.
00:48:26
Speaker
Paid for by proposed new tax on the wealthy.
00:48:31
Speaker
Okay, so my question, of course, all over was, if it's free, why does somebody have to pay for it?
00:48:38
Speaker
So let's let's listen to News Channel 5. Fox Yeah, 19 News has a nineteen whatever whatever yeah nineteen news has a
00:48:50
Speaker
a little thing, they wanna have a conversation. Let's have a conversation. Good afternoon, I'm Dan DeRose with 19 News, coming to you from our digital desk again. We wanna have a conversation about a new piece of legislation just introduced last week down in Columbus, talking about House Bill 854. We all know that college and higher education has grown increasingly expensive. We are seeing students graduate with thousands and thousands of dollars in debt.
00:49:20
Speaker
So what if college for Ohio students were free if they went to one of our state institutions? Ohio State, Cleveland State, um Toledo, we talk about Kent State, all the way down the line. That is the idea of a new proposal. by two legislators, one of them from right here in our area, Representative Tristan Rader. He is both a Cleveland and Lakewood. The proposal would add a tax to the wealthiest Ohioans, and that extra tax dollars would go into a treasury, and that money would fund college for Ohio students. So who would be taxed? Anyone who makes more than $500,000 year. And there would be a in the first year of this looking at 2025, if it were to pass a five point three or five point four percent tax on any money they make over five hundred thousand dollars. If you make over a million dollars, you would pay a fee of twenty six thousand eight hundred and seventy five dollars. And then anything over that. A million dollars you make would be taxed at 7.4%. It goes up slightly when we get to 2026 and beyond. But again, that's where this money would come from. If you were to buy a piece of property, a residential property for $2 million dollars or more, there is a 1% tax that would then go into this fund to pay for free tuition.
00:50:53
Speaker
Just 1% of $2 million. dollars Oh, yay. You know, what you know, weird thing about eating the rich is once you're done eating them, there's no more rich people to eat.
00:51:04
Speaker
yeah then And then you're done. ah The good news, people, is this, this isn't going anywhere. This isn't going anywhere. Yeah. Well, what it does bring up is you notice, well, tuition is just so high.
00:51:20
Speaker
Do they ever look at the schools? Does anyone ever look at the schools and say, why do you charging so much? Because they can, because government pays for it. Government backed loans.
00:51:31
Speaker
Yes. I would say if you want to look at the, think we brought this up on maybe one endowments.
00:51:44
Speaker
If you look up Ohio public colleges and endowments,
00:51:55
Speaker
Into, yeah, 2026. See if I come up with the same. ah Yeah, so Ohio State University, excuse me. here's the list This is just Ohio.
00:52:07
Speaker
Ohio State University has an endowment fund of $7.36 billion. University of Cincinnati, $1.5 billion.
00:52:16
Speaker
university of cincinnati one point five billion dollars
00:52:25
Speaker
Yeah, I think they can maybe cut a little bit. You think if we're going tax anybody, maybe we should tax the college endowments.
00:52:36
Speaker
Take a billion dollars. How many years of tuition for everybody at Ohio State would that be? Quite a bit. Quite a bit. ah Don't even look at Harvard. I think Harvard's $60 to $70 billion dollars of endowments sitting in there.

Free College Proposal: Taxation and Fairness

00:52:50
Speaker
Same thing with Columbia, state of California, whatever the one that's in California, the big one. I mean, even Kent State, the little, Kent State's only got, you know, like half a million, half a billion dollars in endowments.
00:53:05
Speaker
<unk> It's the poor colleges. Poor colleges. there you know And if you look at the increase, college tuition has outpaced inflation by like 100 times the last 20 years.
00:53:18
Speaker
It is crazy. It's like 300 or 400% over like 10 or 15 year period. fifteen year period
00:53:27
Speaker
think this You think this has anything to do with the the lowering? Every year they got lower lower attendance. The state colleges, I mean, probably not Ohio State, but Cleveland State, Kent State, Toledo, they're seeing less and less people enroll every year. I wonder if this has anything to do with it.
00:53:42
Speaker
Almost like a college stimulus plan.
00:53:48
Speaker
Anywho.
00:53:51
Speaker
But again, does anybody care?
00:53:57
Speaker
And this next one here. oh yeah. DeWine halts new sales tax breaks for data centers. I thought this was a good one because the last budget last year, DeWine vetoed a part of the budget that would take this out.
00:54:16
Speaker
It would have reinstated the these the sales tax on data center materials. The GOP wanted to take the tax, take the tax break away.
00:54:26
Speaker
That way they'd have to pay taxes on it. DeWine vetoed that. The GOP in Ohio has been talking about overriding his veto.
00:54:37
Speaker
And then DeWine says, oh, maybe this is getting a little too unpopular. I can i need and need to cut these tax breaks. Or... The less cynical part of me says when they started finding out that instead of $450 million, it's looking a little more like $1.5 billion in tax breaks.

Tax Breaks for Data Centers: DeWine's Decision

00:54:55
Speaker
Right. They wildly underestimated how many damp data centers would come to Ohio is what I think. Are they coming to Ohio though?
00:55:05
Speaker
What you mean? don't I don't know. Are they? We've got 200 of them. Well, now we do, but. Yeah, but there's probably 50 of them and in in progress right now. Will they continue to come is the question.
00:55:16
Speaker
Yeah. Because we're still getting cities. i mean, ah it feels like a story every couple of weeks where ah a community or or a county or whatever is blocking, arguing over ah a mega site, a data center. There's a lot of pushback.
00:55:29
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So they're still trying.
00:55:32
Speaker
And so this, this, this pause will not affect current, anything that's currently going on any projects that have already been approved, anything new going forward is going to, they're putting a pause on it. They want to check out what the deal is. I i think the compromise is let's, let's cut, let's, let's give them slight tax break, but we still need to bring some money in, please.
00:55:53
Speaker
but we were so Yeah. What's the point of these things? Yeah. ah you You take $500 million dollars in the sales tax. Let's say, let's say it's a $1.5 billion dollars and we, we work it out to, we're going to give them a tax break, but not a hundred percent tax break, maybe 50%. So now you're only paying 4% sales tax.
00:56:09
Speaker
So out of that $750 million, dollars how much of that could help? I don't know. Schools.
00:56:20
Speaker
I think, I think it's not a bad thing that they paused it. i I definitely think it's getting a little out of hand. Yeah. And can I build a data center? If if I put in an addition on my house, can I, if I put enough computers in it, can I make it a data center and then get tax free material?
00:56:38
Speaker
That's brilliant. Brilliant. All right. Moving on. Our last story here on the list is, this is,
00:56:49
Speaker
So Greenbrier Middle School in Parma, principal resigns amid controversial video, then is reassigned. I didn't see this article. I missed You didn't see it?
00:57:01
Speaker
No. ah Good. It'll be a surprise. yeah So the following, ah following a recent resignation of Greenbrier Middle School principal amid a controversial cell phone video from two years ago, Parma City School District has resigned her or has reassigned her to a teaching position.
00:57:19
Speaker
So let's listen to what this is. I mean, could you imagine? what what What could she have? I mean, it's going to be pretty bad, huh? Let's see. We'll see what Channel 5 has to say about the principal at Greenbrier and what happened.
00:57:35
Speaker
A woman has been reassigned to a teaching position after her resignation as the Greenbrier Middle School principal. Good evening. Thanks for being with us. I'm Rob Powers, your Cuyahoga County reporter, Kaylee Olivas, following through tonight with renewed frustration from some parents.
00:57:49
Speaker
cell phone video. Her behavior is just horrible. Shot by a Parma City Schools district parent in March 2024. Hey, how about you shut up? How about that?
00:58:00
Speaker
Thank you. Oh, you right? You right now? Anyone else? That's what thought. The voice you hear is Greenbrier Middle School principal, Jill Schistler. Okay. but District records revealing the recording led to a human resource investigation a month later. that's it. The outcome? Schistler was told to be mindful of placing her face in close proximity to an upset student and that she is, quote, always on stage and the brightest light will always shine on the principal. Reprimanded. To be clear, the situation did not result in charges or legal action. But for two years following it did result in a call for her step down. Suicidal empathy.
00:58:36
Speaker
It's disgusting. I don't know how you could talk to a child that way. Greenbrier staff members said a recent meeting and saying the clip doesn't paint the full picture, though. There is context to that, that there were events leading to that and events that occurred after that.
00:58:52
Speaker
And did anyone ever think to ask? Following the new circulation of the video, Schistler submitted her resignation late April. Yes. It was approved. I think a lot of parents...
00:59:04
Speaker
read this sigh of relief But on Thursday, a reassignment for Schistler. What's going to Ms. Kerbock. Yes. Mr. Reyes. He yelled at them. Mrs. Sebastian. Yes. Given a green light, as of August twentieth she will go on to be a physical education teacher for the district, which school, though, not publicly listed. i wonder I will very confidently say that should she be assigned to a school, let's say that one of my children's at my children will not be attending a flash that she teaches. The approval now has parents like Katie Cease and Vicki Farson wondering how and why. Teachers and administrators have the opportunity to apply for continuing contract status. The school district saying the reassignment is allowed through the collective bargaining agreement, which it says it's following, adding that Schistler's pay will not be the same as it was when she was an administrator. It was like a slap in the face, and it definitely makes the trust in the board dwindle even more. I reached out to Schistler via her school email looking for a response to everything, but I didn't hear back. In Parma, I'm your Cuyahoga County reporter, Kaylee Olivas. Yeah, smart. That tells you how smart this woman is. I ain't calling your ass back either.
01:00:23
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just tried to frame it in some way that, oh my gosh, Tom, they yelled at my child. how I couldn't. Can't even understand. ah you could talk that way to a child. I can.
01:00:35
Speaker
i can understand. i can remember a principal spanking a child when I was in school. i remember teachers hitting. I don't think I ever saw that.
01:00:46
Speaker
I don't think I did. No, but oh I saw it. he was he was he had He had him over his lap spanking him. Principal was.
01:00:58
Speaker
So here's, here's, here's, I think back then you could get permission from the parent to do that. Yeah. And it's funny because when I see this, um, and Mike, with my kids like sports.
01:01:12
Speaker
So I'll go to practices so it's like volleyball or baseball, whatever they're playing. And when the kids aren't, they get unruly or they're not really paying attention or listening.
01:01:22
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You can see that the coaches, cause a lot times they're parents. Most of time, their parents. And you could see them starting to get annoyed and almost like kind of looking over for approval you know from any parents are there. And I'm like, I just go yell at them. I go, you got my permission screaming. If they're not listening to you, go ahead.
01:01:38
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Have at it. Are they that scared nowadays to even yell? Yes. Really? but mean, look, look at this. Yeah. This this principle got into phase. Now, Should somebody said, hey, maybe with the way things are nowadays, you know, but first of all, if you remember that there's a, this is a parent's parents recorded this.
01:01:59
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Right. So they have told her to stop. They didn't have enough ah enough balls to say anything during the time. No, they had to record it and then report it. So classy, very classy. But so she got a little, a little heated.
01:02:12
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What were the kids doing? Yeah, that that's, uh, and that's what she says. There things that happened before and after, but nobody seemed to want to know what was going on. Okay. You just can't yell at my child. who I can't, I can't believe somebody would talk to a child that way. Oh my gosh.
01:02:30
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Do you know they have feelings and it you might hurt them a little bit. Oh my gosh. can Can you figure out why we have such wussies grown up, especially the boys? We talked about last week. i bet I bet you these boys are asking those moms um for dating advice. But you have you have you have a teacher, a principal that got a little heated with it with a couple of students and said the words, shut up.
01:02:56
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Okay, so they had to talk to her and say, hey, look, you really should, you know, know the principal should be blah, blah, blah, this and that. And then for two years, nothing else happened except a couple of whiny bitches,
01:03:10
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complaining over and over again to the school that this teacher might hurt their kids feeling again.
01:03:16
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And, and to me, i think this is a, it is a slap in the face to you. Because they're like, okay, she's still a we we still think she's a valued asset. we're just going to bring her back on as the physical education teacher, which she was doing when she was yelling at the kids. she was She was filling in for an absentee, I think, teacher at the time or or whatever.
01:03:35
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But she was the principal acting as a as a physical education teacher. And now she's going to be a physical education teacher. Now, unfortunately, she's going to get a pay cut. But, you know, she still has a job. And conveniently enough, to we're not sure where we're putting her yet.
01:03:49
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right i'm I'm fairly confident that she will not be my kid's teacher. Well, way to take a stand, woman. Fairly confident. ah Anyway, so I thought that was ah pretty funny.
01:04:05
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It's only a couple schools she could go to, right? ah Yeah. Yeah. That's true. She'll be, can't wait.
01:04:13
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i kept waiting I kept waiting for the next thing, the shooter drop. Okay, what she that happened. Then she like threw a chair or smacked the kid or something like that Nope. And then a perfect record for two years after that.
01:04:27
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Oh, women.
01:04:31
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Should not be able to vote. Yes, see. Well, no, on certain things like American Idol and stuff like that. I'm just going to add that to whenever somebody says, oh, yes women.
01:04:41
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but I have to put the Rob Schneider's clip on on repeat as a permanent one. Here's what you can vote for. He even goes too far. He says school board stuff. I'm aiming for that. I'm like American Idol, you know, next next flavor of Coke or something like that. You could vote on, but.
01:04:58
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Not even. thank You can vote on once a week of what we're having on for dinner.
01:05:07
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I don't know. i think they could I think that could turn around and bite you because in the other six days, you've got to figure out what to eat for dinner. That's true. Which is which is like the worst thing in my house. It's like, oh, are going for dinner?
01:05:19
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I'm sick of everything. and Anywho, on that note, we're going move on to the final segment of our show, which is... bring good things life.
01:05:31
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Good things segment. Good things segment of number one on our good things segment is, well, number one.
01:05:40
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Winking lizard is number one. USA Today poll, which, you know, it's USA Today, so don't give it us too much credit. But USA Today poll names best sports bar in nation and Ohio chain is number one.
01:05:52
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We're number one. So sports readers choice of word has named the best sports bar in the nation. And the winking lizard is at the top. That's very cool.
01:06:03
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Yeah, very cool. I mean, that's a locally owned, I think the first one was in, it's still there. It's in Bedford Heights. I used to go there. he used to work around there. Oh, I always thought the first one was in Peninsula. I don't, I'm pretty sure they told me a couple times that was the first one because ah one of the owners still worked there at the time. She she did the front desk. I mean, they could have been pulling the wool over, but it is a nice, it's a bigger one. And they bought the building next door and turned it into ah like a bourbon place.
01:06:32
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Beer and bourbon place over in Bedford Heights. Bedford, wherever it is. So yeah, no and it's great. I mean, man, gold finger sauce. Oh, so good. ah The food is okay, but it's just, the you know, they got those, what is it like 360? You could go in and have a different beer every day, Yeah.
01:06:49
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yeah Yeah. They got tons of beer, a great beer selection. And I just always had good service there. of I've gone there plenty of times. There's one. Yeah. There's 15 of them in Ohio. So. Good on them.
01:07:01
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Good on them. Yeah. Check it out. They got the, got the award. Uh, now there's a Dave and Dave and Buster's is number nine. Yeah. And that's a Ohio based company. or And Buffalo Wild Wings is number eight, which I don't know where they're really out of.
01:07:18
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Is that a national, that's a national chain, right? National chain. But i think it's, I think they, they start in Ohio maybe. don't know. don't know why you think they start in Buffalo.
01:07:29
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no ah Well, maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah, it doesn't say. But hey, we're number one. I'm going with it. Yeah, drinking lizard. Time to sit on the patio and have a cigar and an old fashioned.
01:07:44
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Try a couple different bourbons. And of course, the best story on the list we saved for last. You pulled this up. We talked about this last year. First Energy Explains Why You May See Saws Hanging from Helicopters Along the Ohio Turnpike.
01:07:58
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Oh, man. I wish I could have seen it. We talked about this when this first when we first started the podcast.

Helicopter Saws and Ohio's Transmission Lines

01:08:03
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Yeah. and This is awesome. It's funny because so we're going to we're going to head to Kings Island next week. And we've got seasons passes to Cedar Point.
01:08:11
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And they got this, it's all six flags and not if you get, they have early incentives to buy it. So one of the things is we, we can, you buy ah a season's pass at a certain level and you get a pass to all the parks in, in six flags
01:08:27
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thing. So like, okay, we're going to Keesan, blah, blah, blah. Well, I started reading now We have to, first thing you have to do with your season's pass is activate, your seasons pass. So the other day we went to Cedar point for like two, ah like an hour and a half and left.
01:08:41
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Oh really? Yeah. You have to have to scan it at your home park to activate every year. First time. So I'm like, so anyway, all all that to say, we're driving on the turnpike and I looked over and I was like, damn, look at that. She's like, my wife's like, what? i was like, look at that hedge they put. That was the, that was the, that was the aerial saw, wasn't it? She's like, I bet it was. And you look down the, where the big main lines were going, crossing over the turnpike. Yeah. And it was just like a perfectly trimmed hedge all the way down the trees. I'm like, so go and check out the the article. They got a little video of it in action. And it's, it's a cool, I mean, it looks awesome. It's got like 20 blades on it. Like they're all like 24 inch.
01:09:17
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think I remember it had like
01:09:20
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16, 24 inch, oh yeah, 24 inch rotary saw suspended from a helicopter is meant to help clear foliage around transmission lines and electrical equipment.
01:09:30
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And it's, it's, yeah up to it'll do up to 10 inch diameter limbs. That's awesome. so loss I want one. I know. I want one. And then I need a helicopter, which is again, cool.
01:09:44
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And if you can see see some pictures in it, but they're saying, don't think the first time we talked about it, it's it's cheaper. I'm sure this is not cheap at all, but it's cheaper than sending a crew into the forest. Safer too.
01:09:54
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Way safer because you're not getting hit by limbs and stuff like that. yeah And they just come through and chop it down. looks so cool. This just looks like somebody took a pair of clippers and just went right through the forest. it's kind of nice And but do those ah limbs just sit, ah lie there forever? That's a good question. I don't know.
01:10:08
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Yeah. Or do they clean that? I'm i'm kind kind of curious about that. I mean, it's just turns into mulch, but it takes a while. I would imagine that in some areas they can't really, they can't even get to the to that.
01:10:21
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They got there once at least. Well, right, right. Well, no, I would think yes to a point, but those, if you go through like West Virginia or going on to Florida and they got these power lines going through the mountains, yeah you can't get to there. I think most of those, I bet most of those power lines are put in by helicopters and yeah oh I would think in some areas they couldn't even come back and pick up the the branches. well but Doesn't that become a fire hazard then? Yeah, that's good point.
01:10:46
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After a while, if you do enough of them, it turns into a dead brush. wait
01:10:54
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Aerosol is used. Ground crews follow behind clearing debris and making sure the area remains safe. So there you go Answer your question. Well, I guess I should have read the article. I mean, that was like the last paragraph. Ooh, it gets to the last paragraph.
01:11:08
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And I might know if you see, if you see the aerial saw, send us a link or send us ah a note in crookedrivercast.gmo.com and tell us this is as cool as it sounds.
01:11:21
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Does it sound as cool as it looks? You know, could you imagine, you know, 15 or 20, 24 inch blades spinning at high RPMs? Oh, oh, we're Tim Allen when you need it. Give that thing more power, can't we? Exactly.
01:11:36
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So tell us tell us what you think. If you've seen it, let us know. Send us only CrookedRiverCast at gmail.com. Send us your shenanigans if you've seen it in your area. You'd like to like to know. You can add it to the show.
01:11:47
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CrookedRiverCast at gmail.com. Check out the blog, CrookedRiverCast.com. And I guess that is the end of the show. Happy Gay Pride Month.
01:11:58
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And be careful. careful of the rainbow flags that you you see. You never know what might be behind them.
01:12:07
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Sorry. And that happy note. We'll talk to you next week. Peace.