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Speaker: Welcome to the DIY Goalie Podcast, where hosts and goalie coaches Nathan Park and Connor Munday share their insights on how to become a better goalie.
Speaker: Hey goalies, welcome back to another episode of the DIY Goalie podcast presented by true North Goaltending. We are here on a Sunday morning for various reasons, both and grinding and out a little tired.
Speaker: um I know ah Connor is dealing with ah no sleeping from baby and I just had a nice late drive from Peace River last night and then I was woken up by my seven-year-old so you know not too happy about that but we're here we're we're proceeding with scheduled scheduled I guess interviews they're not interviews but podcast episode but uh We're here today. We're going to give you guys a couple topics that we're going to talk about. It feels like it's been a few weeks since we've been on together. I think it has actually been a few weeks since we've been on together. But we're finally, finally through the camp grind.
Speaker: All done with the camp grind. So the Peace River Camp was kind of the last of our camp stretch. And now we're right into the evaluation grind. So... And then from there, it's right into the season grind. So we'll see you guys all in March basically. But how are we doing, Connor? Did you get a little bit of rest after camps or not really?
Speaker: I feel like I'm still feeling the effects of it, to be honest with you. um Yeah. I don't, yeah, I don't Camp was, camp was fun um couple of weeks ago.
Speaker: um You know, always fun to see the, the familiar faces that you get. Yeah. and then immediately right And then immediately right afterwards, I get six. So you know that's always that's always a fun time as well. And then, yeah, so now we're just kind of in this weird spot where, like,
Speaker: kind of hockey season's ramping up again but it's also not like i don't have um evals for my u18 double a team until kind of next week of september i guess as of recording this um beyond that like i don't know i'm just kind of im just kind of in the spa right now where it's like things are happening but things aren't happening for me yet so i'm just kind of waiting right yeah or uh We're all over the place with our evaluations this year. so But I guess ah it's a good problem to have. yeah
Speaker: We've got one coach who's up in White Court this weekend doing some evaluations and we'll be ah helping them out with some things. But yeah, hopefully you guys, um you know if you are in tryouts, hopefully they're going well. Or if you're about to be in tryouts, good luck.
Speaker: um If you've already done your tryouts, hopefully you kind of landed where you wanted to. I know it's all over the map depending on where you play these days, but so hopefully you had a good off season and are kind of ready to jump right into it and hit the ground running, did the things you need to do to be prepared for a good, good upcoming season.
Speaker: um We are going to dive into basically two topics today. So we're going to kind of talk about a little bit of a rant on my end. um Basically, in my opinion, a little bit of an epidemic in goaltending these days.
Speaker: um And we're also going to dive into a topic that surprisingly we actually haven't really touched on a lot, I don't think, yet is like pregame warm-up. like We've talked about like pre-game routine like off the ice and stuff like that but we really haven't dove into like the on ice warm-up and so we'll kind of get into that we'll talk about what to do at different levels because some of you guys have two minute warm-ups some of you guys have 20 minute warm-ups it really depends on what level you're playing at um and all of that stuff so and i guess for those of you who are listening who are beer leaguers you really don't have any warm-up except for getting hit in the head with pucks so
Speaker: um That's kind of where we're at with that. So maybe I'll save the rant for the end. We'll we'll have the click-baity rage bait at the end or whatever the the surprise suspense.
Speaker: um So we can dive kind of right into warm-ups. I guess, Connor, do you want to kind of like lead us off with that and kind of provide your thoughts? I know you've ah you've handled some junior B teams and some, you know, U18 AA teams with some longer warmups. So um I guess kind of do you do you talk to your goalies about that and kind of what do you what do you mention um to them?
Speaker: ah each Each goalie is is different kind of when it comes to to to pregame prep. right like um I've had a couple of goalies on my junior teams that you know didn't want to talk to me at all during warm hour during their pregame routine and pregame warm-ups or or anything. and so that's That's perfectly fine. and so I have to have to respect that and just kind of kind of go from there. and There are some other other goalies that I've worked with you know where we kind of have a little bit of a last-minute talk. and just kind of go over a couple of things and, ah and then dive right into it. um Like the warmups itself, like you kind of have, you kind of get what you're given basically with that. um You know, like I, I always, I always like to see, you know, with my warmups or with my goalies, warmups is that as long as there's purpose um behind it, you know, like we're not just kind of going through the motions on the ice. Like, we're stretching and we're making sure we're really like stretching on our groin and our legs and whatever else, you know, we're working on a couple of skating patterns, you know, so that now we were getting, we're, we're feeling good in our, on our edges and they'll make sure that, um, you know, that we're, uh, you know, just getting into that routine, getting into that habit, you know, making sure that everything's comfortable, you know, before we get into game time.
Speaker: Um, and then even with the warmups as well with the shots, you know, it's, you know, you kind of get what you're given on that one. You know, sometimes you have shooters who go for the head, whether intentional or not.
Speaker: um And sometimes you have shooters that, you know, can't, you know, place their pucks. And so we kind of have to, we kind of have to be adaptable, um you know, with that. But I think, you know, just, I always say, you know, as, you know, just as as long as we're doing something with a purpose, right. And trying to do everything to, to the best of our ability. And, know, especially in the, in warmups, you know, you're not, you're not trying to do anything, know, new you're not trying to you know reinvent the wheel or anything of the story it's it's more so just like you're you're just working on the aspects and you're getting into the rhythm of your game and how you play your game um and just kind of go from there i've had a couple of goalies who come to me after warm-ups and be like i hey i didn't have i feel like i didn't have a good warm-up and i'll be like yeah you did or no you didn't so um it's
Speaker: it's not like warmups and even after warmups, they're, they're not the time to go into reevaluation mode. It's, we have to, excuse me, we have to deal with the cards, you know, that were dealt.
Speaker: And, uh, uh, you know, even, even if, even if you didn't have a good enough warmup or you feel like you didn't have a good enough warmup, um, you know, we still have to get into the game essentially. Um, and so just,
Speaker: you know pick pick pick and choose your battles essentially. So I don't know. i That's just the way I've always seen it. There's nothing really that I'm doing as a goalie coach in pre-warm-up, in warm-up, or anything along those lines where I'm kind of reinventing the wheel or doing anything of the sort last minute. It's more so just, hey, are you ready to go? What are you going to be focusing on in this game?
Speaker: you know what's what's the What's the end result that we want to get personally out of this game? Yeah, there's a couple things that I kind of want to double click on there. um One of them being that you know your performance, I guess, in warm-up doesn't really dictate your performance in a game. um I have had warm-ups where I've felt terrible and you know couldn't stop a puck and then had a pretty good game. And I've had warm-ups where... I felt locked in and dialed in and was stopping everything. And then the game didn't really go that well either. um so I think one of the biggest things is to make sure that you're not reading too much into warmup and you're not
Speaker: you know getting getting yourself in a situation where you know you're, I guess, getting yourself into a bad mindset. um If you put too much stock into the warm-up, it can kind of throw off where you're at mentally for the game. And and it it can really spiral from there.
Speaker: um The other thing too is it's going to vary depending on what you have for time, but some you want to make sure like Connor said that you have a purpose in mind. So for example, for me, when I played, i know my kind of purpose was really getting the hands and the eyes going. That was what I wanted to get out of warm up, get a little stretch and get moving. I was pretty conservative when I played. um Like I didn't want to waste a lot of energy, to be honest. um
Speaker: I mean, part of that is also because I didn't really go to the gym and have like the best conditioning. But that being said, like i didn't want to tire myself out personally. i just kind of wanted to have, you know, a nice flow, kind of nice, you know, hand, eyes activation.
Speaker: But I do know that there are goalies out there that love to just fly through warmups. um Like they love to get out, hit the ice, like as fast as they can, power through a bunch of crease movements, you know, like have like really high energy and and all of that stuff. um So we've been talking lots about kind of you know, the self-reflection and like figuring out your own game, right? Like one of the big philosophies at True North is becoming your own goalie coach.
Speaker: um So we need to make sure that we understand what's going to work for us and that's the best way to approach our warmup. Right. So, um, if you need more time to stretch, great. If you stretch a bunch off the ice and you want more time to skate and get your edges going and all of that stuff, if you need more time for your hands, your eyes, whatever the case is,
Speaker: you kind of need to figure that out and you need to figure out what's going to work for you as well as what's going to work for your situation. Um, again, depending on where you play, you might get two minutes, you might get 20 minutes, you might get nothing, who knows.
Speaker: Um, the big thing though, too, when it comes to like the actual drills, sometimes you don't have, um, like much of a choice in terms of which drills get done. Like that's kind of a team and a coach decision. However,
Speaker: Have that conversation with your coach if you aren't happy with what your warm up is. um If you say, hey, I need more time between shots because I need to track. I need to get my eyes going. Can we switch up the drill?
Speaker: Because I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this before, not in a while, so I'll bring it back. But the yeah whole team coming out of the corner around the circle and just shot shot, shot, shot, that does absolutely nothing for goalies. That's the worst thing. Really doesn't do much for players either.
Speaker: um So if you can talk to your coach and just say, hey, I know the player needs like the players need to warm up too, but is there a way that we can incorporate player movement while having shots from further out and shots spaced out? So like one of the common ones to do at the higher levels is the three lines where everybody's kind of the blue line and three lines. You know you take a couple strides and shoot from one line and then go to the next.
Speaker: But what you can do with the players um that I've seen be fairly successful is after they shoot, they kind of you know, skate down to the the goal line or something and then back out hard to the blue line or whatever the case is. Some guys don't even really participate in the three lines and they just stick handle in the neutral zone. um Another thing you can do is ask a teammate like right at the start of warm up.
Speaker: to just take a couple pucks off to the side and just kind of lob a few at your glove and your blocker or whatever the case is. um Again, whatever works for you. But the big thing there is that communication, right? Talk to your coaches, talk to your teammates, figure out what it is you want to do and relay that information to them so they can help out.
Speaker: um And then I guess kind of the last thing with that I think I have for for warm-ups is um just making sure that You understand that it it it's not the game.
Speaker: like You don't need to go do anything crazy. like A lot of goalies won't go down. um a lot of goalies, you know like they're just there to kind of get a specific thing out of it. And so that kind of ties back to the purpose that Connor was talking about. And it's going to be personal for everybody. um So just make sure you understand yourself, understand your game, and you kind of go from there with your warm-up.
Speaker: Yeah, um you kind of took the words out of my mouth with ah with that one where um you know bringing the are you're not asking the player to you know grab some pucks and you know go off to the side and and do that. um I don't know. like there's really like There really isn't that much to dive into like with warm-ups, I guess, per se. It's more so just like, what do you like what do you what are you planning to get out of it? you know what are you know What are you working on that's going to make you comfortable in your game? What are you doing that's going to um you know make you successful? right So I think that's just that's just the biggest thing at the end of the day.
Speaker: And um yeah, just kind of go out of from there. All right. So are you ready for rant time then? I am. but I've been looking forward to this since you texted me about it. So what do you got?
Speaker: All right. there's an epidemic in goaltending. and i so there's there's There's a lot of epidemics in goaltending, just for the record. Yeah, there's a handful of them. um But the one that is fresh of mind anyways, and the one that really kind of irked me this past weekend, or this past week at the camp we just did up in Peace or River,
Speaker: is that I don't know why but there's been a big shift in this new generation of goalies in the race stance and like I'm a proponent of the race stance like I 100% will like push it I guess as something to use in the right situation But I find there's so many goalies these days that are moving around basically like standing straight up or their stick is like 10 feet off the ice. I know that's an exaggeration, but when I when i rant, I like to exaggerate.
Speaker: But like i I had one goalie in Peace River there where we were talking and I was like, hey, like you know you're moving over and then you're taking an extra split second to have to settle down into your stance. So you're high when you're moving across, like you're up, you're tall. And as you're moving across, then you have to take that split second to like settle back down into your stance. and I tell this to my goalies all the time. I'm like, unfortunately, we don't have the luxury of time most of the time. Like we can't afford extra time.
Speaker: And anything that we do that adds time, that creates delays, anything like that, that puts us in trouble. And Again, the race stance has value in certain situations. It is great when you are looking around screens. It is great when there's perimeter movement. So especially on a power play when you're trying to conserve energy a little bit, there's no immediate threat to the net. It's kind of more on the perimeter.
Speaker: But if there's like a threat to the net, you should be a little bit more set. It doesn't have to be like necessarily like a full blown like set stance. Although if they're loaded up to shoot, you should already be in that full blown set stance. But even still, if you're moving around, like you should still have your or your shoulders forward. You should still have your knees bent, your hands out, all of that stuff. You should not be standing up.
Speaker: And then the other thing too is I find that like there's so many goalies that are getting beat because they're pulling back, like they're opening up net, their hands are back, their shoulders are back, they're not tracking because their head is back. and I would say 90% of the time it's because of their setup.
Speaker: It's because their setup is up and back. Their weight is back. You know, their shoulders are pulled back and it's, it's not good for your balance. Like it's not good to stay engaged and over top of the puck. Like if you think about it,
Speaker: The puck for 99% of the time is on the ice and it's below you, right? Like below where you're looking. So you need to be forward and down. You need to be over top of that puck. Like even if the puck's at the blue line, you're still looking down at it.
Speaker: and you still have to be forward and trying to cut off that angle as early as you can when you make your saves and a lot of times what I see from goalies these days is they're just too upright and they don't get that done um so the other thing I guess to kind of like go off of that is it seems like there are a lot of coaches out there that are actively teaching this and I don't know if they're not explaining when to use it or if they're just over reliant on it. Like we kind of got um to the point with the RVH for a stretch. It's gotten better. The RVH has gotten better, but there is a stretch where that was the default um because this goalie that I was talking to in Peace River that I'm like, hey, you're taking too long to settle back down.
Speaker: He was like, well, another goalie coach that I've worked with has told me that I should be moving around like this. And I'm like, okay, well, I guess maybe this is explaining why this is an epidemic. But yeah,
Speaker: we need to like, we need to use it in specific situations. And even when we're in a raised stance, we still need to have our hands forward. We still need to have our knees slightly bent and like our feet not together and our shoulders still need to be forward, right? When we get to the point that we're basically standing straight up, that's when we have issues. And If you're a goalie coach out there and you are telling your goalies to be a little bit higher through their movements, please emphasize when and please emphasize the proper way to have raise stance.
Speaker: I am, i don't know, it baffles me just how many goalies I see. And it's not just this one up in Peace River, although... The reason I'm ranting about it is because he told me that his goalie coach was telling him this. But um it's it's something that I see a lot in goalies. like And I don't know how many times I have to say, you need to be ready. You need to be engaged. You need to like you shouldn't be spending time when the actual shots coming to you to get set, you need to be set before that shot comes to have success. And that's kind of something that I've seen as a trend. And to me, it's a little bit concerning. So this is my public service announcement to please be a little bit more set in your stance and your setup.
Speaker: Oh, hot take there. Um, I don't think, yeah, no, it's not. No, it's not. I mean, these are like, like these coaches talent, like teaching us are the same ones that are teaching goalies to go down the RVH when the puck's in the far corner.
Speaker: Um, But yeah, I wholeheartedly agree with you on just kind of what's going on with this race stance. I'm going to take it even a step further and be like, there's no point for the race stance, to be honest with you. I don't i i don't see any benefits to it, even though I know that you like laid some out. I'll i'll interject just quickly.
Speaker: If you're trying to look over a screen, it's like, it's good in that situation. Cause then, okay. And that's like the only one. That's like the only one time that that's beneficial. Otherwise you should, you should be in a, in a somewhat, you should, you should be in a ready stance.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. There's like there's I don't see any benefit to it other than, you know, like what what you had just said, right with the with with standing up and kind of looking over the shoulders.
Speaker: um I don't know. To me, it's just like we always say to goalies that the shot can come from anywhere, so we always have to be ready. And yet we're yeah in the same breath, we're saying, like oh, yeah, but you don't need to be in a stick on the ice, knees bend to 90 degrees you know stance all the time.
Speaker: exaggerated obviously but still that's that's the point like we can't we can't have our cake and eat it too right at the end of the day right so there's got to be there's got to be a little bit of a little bit of give and take and like and even in like nathan said like if you are going to teach the race stance or or yeah having having a bit more of a race stance there's a time and a place for it Right. that There's a time and a place for it. Otherwise, like if we're just having our goalies standing up and they're just kind of casually moving across their crease while the puck's being ripped around in our own ripped around in our own end, you are you are doing yourself a disservice because you were again because you are getting yourself late to every play.
Speaker: Yeah, I just, I don't know. like as you know as as As the saying goes, if like if it ain't broke, don't fix it, right? So why why are we why are we going down this road if there's no practical benefit out of it at the end of the day? so and and this' And everybody's going to have their opinion on it. like i've I've had conversations with goalies. We're like, oh, well, hey, you should be doing this. And they'll come back to me, well, my goalie coach my other goalie coach said to do this. And then when I ask them, okay, well, what's the what's what's the reason behind it? What's the practicality behind it? They don't have one. It's just because goalie coach told them to, basically. Yeah. You know, hey some some goalies are going to be like that. Some goalies are going to be, you know, stuck in their ways and be like, no, I want to do this just because I can.
Speaker: And that's also fine. But I mean, again, you're just you could be your hand your handicapping yourself um at the end of the day And so just as I always like to say, move with purpose. As long as there's a purpose behind your movement, as long as there's a purpose behind what you're doing.
Speaker: you were you're not going to have an issue if you can explain to me oh yeah hey i'm the reason why i recover back to my posts and my ah rvh more than i should on my feet even if the puck's in the far corners because i feel like i'm quicker Okay, cool.
Speaker: Prove it to me. And if you're able and if you are able to prove it to me, then then I'll leave it alone. I had that conversation with one of my U18 AA guys last year. um You know, and so there's like, there's a give and take on both sides, obviously. But if if you're just doing it just because your goalie coach told you to, then then there's a there's a problem.
Speaker: i Yeah, that bugs me too because that's one thing. like If you're a goalie coach out there, please explain your reasoning and break it down for your goalie and don't just say, do this. right Say, do this because. right And also give them the like situations that it's used for because there are times where you know, the RVH is the better play. There are times where the overlap's the better play.
Speaker: There is even arguments for times where the VH could still be relevant in certain situations. um But that's the thing is if you're going to teach it or if you're going to talk about it, explain when it's useful and when it's not. Explain why.
Speaker: right And that's the big thing. And like the other one that kind of irks me and now that we're kind of down this rabbit hole a little bit is the goalie coaches that are actively teaching pad saves.
Speaker: and i get it like there are situations where you you might not have time to react to make a stick save and that's totally fine like i get that and you should have the ability to make a pad save and try and control the rebound like with your shin as opposed to kicking it out however i have heard that there are goalie coaches out there that are saying, no, we don't want to use the stick, just use your pad, it's easier, it's quicker. And I'm just like, ah you have so much more control with your stick, you can put the pucks where you want to with your stick. Yes, there are going to be situations where you might not be able to get your stick on it, or you just don't have time to react, and that's fine, and you should be able to use your pad properly.
Speaker: But it's i can't it just baffles me that there are people actively teaching goalies not to use their sticks. So now this has kind of just turned into a general rant about how we coach goalies. but you You know what really grinds my gears? heat Yeah. Old man yells at cloud this podcast episode. that's That's going to be the title of this. Old man yell at cloud. Yeah.
Speaker: No, that's okay. Okay. That's, that's news to me. I didn't know that we didn't know that there were coaches out there teaching not to use the thing that's in between your legs. um But I, I don't, I don't know, man. It's like, obviously there's going to be personal choice. It's going to be personal preference and that's fine.
Speaker: But I mean, again, like there has to be a little bit of practicality too, at the end of the day. Right. So if, if, If you can explain to me and have it make it coherently make sense that no, you should be doing pad saves more than you should be doing stick saves.
Speaker: Okay. By all means. But if if the sole reason, and I use this as an example, is that if the sole reason, hey, yeah, you should be making me making pad saves because the the design of the pad is meant to have more control with rebounds or whatever, um that's not a good enough reason to me. Because if you have a kid wearing you know whatever Bauer pads out there nowadays or CCM pad or whatever, and you're teaching the and you're teaching your kids and you're teaching these kids this, well, they're not always going to nail it.
Speaker: right whereas a stick you have you have better control you know in making terms of making your saves and it would be easier to be making their stick saves versus trying to make sure that the puck hits the right spot in the pad so then the rebound goes six feet flying out towards the boards you know what i mean like like that's that's that's that's just insanity to me and how Yeah, I don't know. if Again, like i'm all I'm all for change, but again, if if it coherently makes sense and there's some actual practicality reasonably reasoning behind it, great. If there's not, sorry, you've lost some credibility with me.
Speaker: Yeah, my thing is is when people deal with absolutes, especially with goaltending. Only a Sith deals with absolutes, actually. Oh, my God. It's not May the 4th. It's close enough. Yeah.
Speaker: No, like, i there's so much nuance to goaltending. There's so much, like, um gray area. Like, it's usually not black and white. And that's why we talk so much about tools in the toolbox. Because, like, to me,
Speaker: Yes, you should have an idea of how to make a pad save where you're not kicking it straight back out. and you can maybe like deflect it more to the corner with your shin.
Speaker: and yes, that's kind of a good like tool to have, but you should also be able to use your stick competently as well. right And like that's the problem is I find too much. There's too many people, like too many goalie coaches, too many goalies that are just like, well, this is what I'm comfortable with. I'm going to do this all the time. or you know like this This works like most of the time, so I'm just going to stick with it. And it's like, well, okay, great. But like what happens if you get into a situation where that doesn't work for you and you need to kind of do more or do something else and and you're not competent in that area to be able to do that something else? but
Speaker: that's ah That's kind of one of those things, I guess, that I just... um I feel like there's... not I guess there's not enough explanation on the why, right? Like we need to kind of break down when certain things work and we need to break down like the why behind it and kind of go from there. Right. So that, I guess that's kind of the thing with, with my rant is you need to have an idea as to why you're teaching what you're teaching or why you're doing what you're doing. And you kind of go from there. Right. And, and make sure that you explain that if you're a goalie coach or if you're a goalie, make sure you understand that.
Speaker: Yeah. i I don't know. It's just sometimes you just have coaches out there just because, right? Oh, because I said so because this or i because because I have the experience and it worked a long time ago when I played in the nineties or whatever. Right. Yeah. Stand up's better. Yeah, exactly. Don't go down.
Speaker: yeah Yeah. Well, that's kind of all I had on that. I don't know if you had anything to add or if you want to just bring us home No, I think I can just bring us home. I think just kind of my last parting shot is that, you know, we're not we're not out here saying that one way is better than the other. And again, I think just the whole the whole moral of the story is just like, if you can coherently, again, explain kind of what the reasoning behind it is and if it makes sense and when and it works.
Speaker: Great. If you're doing it just because you saw it on TikTok or just because goalie coach had told you to with no explanation, then there's then there's some issues. But that is that is what it is at the end of the day Question everything, ladies and gentlemen. I feel like that's the that's the best way of going about it.
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