Today on the podcast, we welcome John Congleton. John and I speak about emo, his old band, The Paper Chase, and the bands he's worked with. It's extensive and impressive! A truly remarkable and open talk about emo with someone who's worked with the best!



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#259 - John Congleton (Record Producer, The Paper Chase)

Dan and Sam speak about the upcoming untitled Promise Ring documentary and how they need your help!



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#258 - The Promise Ring Documentary  (Dan Didier, Sam Macon)

Today we have back for a 3rd time, Chris Simpson. He recently released a new Mountain Time album called “Dream Homes” on Spartan Records. We talk about the album and really go deep on the making of and the artwork. 

We also talk about death, planning, and doing things out of love. 

Lastly you can tell we’ve spoken a lot as it’s just a lot of jokes and sorta feels like we just recorded one of many conversations together over the years.

I could not be more proud to speak with Chris and know he’s still making music. It’s a gift. 

https://spartanrecords.com/collections/mountain-time/products/mountain-time-dream-homes

https://mountaintime.bandcamp.com/album/dream-homes

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#257 - Chris Simpson (Mountain Time, Mineral, The Gloria Record)

Best Friends Forever 2025 was just announced, and I have instant feedback on who's playing and the changes for 2025.

Listen to all the bands via this playlist on Soundcloud [https://soundcloud.com/washedupemo/sets/best-friends-forever-2025/s-2ltmtWENEKk?si=5267dbe3644a4fa4a2f7e5be16f046ab&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing]

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#256 - Best Friends Forever 2025 Preview 

Today on the podcast, we welcome Jason Bishop and Bryan Hoffa from the band Bells on Trike. Fun fact: they were around for only a few years in the late '90s, and this is their first-ever interview! Numero Group has their music up on streaming services. Go search it out. 

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#255 - Bells on Trike (Jason Bishop, Bryan Hoffa)

Today on the podcast we welcome Amanda MacKaye. Amanda and I chat about the new Bed Maker record that’s out on Dischord, a big discussion about genre, emo, and her take on it from the world she came from in DC. We talk about the industry as a whole and what’s exciting for Amanda in 2024. This was a really great conversation and I kept a lot of the back and forth in more than usual to keep that feeling for you the listener. 

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#254 - Amanda MacKaye (Bed Maker, Desiderata, Routineers, Jury Rig)

Today on the podcast, we welcome Kristin Thomson and Jenny Toomey from Tsunami and Simple Machines. 

We talk about the 90s, running Simple Machines, their new box set out on Numero Group, what DIY means to them, and how it impacts their lives and current work. 

I learned a lot from this episode. It was so fun to sit back and be reminded how much more I need to know and listen. 

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#253 - Tsunami (Kristin Thomson, Jenny Toomey) 

We talk about the Seattle scene he grew up in, Acceptance, Anberlin’s new stuff, and we go deep into his years on the road and how he’s balanced his career and family. Plus, your favorite topic, emo. Please listen to the latest Anberlin record, Vega, out on Equal Vision Records.

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#252 - Christian McAlhaney (Anberlin, Acceptance)

Today, we welcome Will Sartain from S&S Presents and Best Friends Forever Festival. Will and I talk about Kilby Court, the longest-running all-ages venue in SLC, and his DIY past. We dive into first thoughts and planning for the festival. It's a really fun look behind the curtain on one of the most unique festivals hitting a specific time frame and Venn diagram we all know and love. If you’re on the way, you’re on your way back. If you've never heard of it, take a second and check it out. 



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#251 - Will Sartain (S&S Presents, Best Friend Forever Festival)

Today on the podcast, we welcome sunny day real estate. Jeremy Enigk, William Goldsmith, and Dan Hoerner recently took time to chat with me ahead of this run around the anniversary of Diary. 

I didn’t edit it. I just talk to them as you would if you got to sit with them for an hour. I hope you feel you’re next to them, chiming in or nodding along. i can’t explain listening back to this the joy I feel hearing them all happy. This is a celebration. A band so cherished and revered is better than they were when you say you saw them first. Go see them now. 

I can’t explain how much getting 250 episodes feels, either. I can try, but through many ups and downs, as I’m sure you have going on now, in the past, or up ahead, it felt right to have this happen now. I struggle a lot with keeping up, and I struggle with thinking no one cares. This past year, I spent a lot of time looking for support in those ups and downs. 

Hearing SDRE laugh, talk over each other, remind each other of things, and support each other as they go down this road of not nostalgia but celebration and continuation of a band that goes beyond a word, a phase, or even a scene. 

From the bottom of my heart, thank you to Jeremy, William, and Dan for coming on and sharing a little about themselves. I hope you enjoy listening along with all the mistakes, my usual questions about emo. I think 250 in, I am not changing the format, there are plenty more stories to hear from our heroes, here’s to 250 more. 



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#250 - Sunny Day Real Estate 

Join Tom Mullen for a look back at when emo was an unknown word, its relevance now and speaks to those deeply involved with the emo/punk/hardcore/post-hardcore scene.

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