Psychiatrist, internist, and addiction medicine specialist Muhamad Aly Rifai discusses his article, "Physician patriots: the forgotten founders who lit the torch of liberty [https://kevinmd.com/2025/06/physician-patriots-the-forgotten-founders-who-lit-the-torch-of-liberty.html]." Muhamad calls for a remembrance of the five physician-patriots—Dr. Benjamin Rush, Dr. Josiah Bartlett, Dr. Lyman Hall, Dr. Matthew Thornton, and Dr. Oliver Wolcott—who signed the Declaration of Independence, risking everything for the principles of equality and unalienable rights. He contrasts their revered role with the current plight of physicians who face persecution, silencing, and legal battles within a politicized health care system, citing violations of First, Fourth, and Sixth Amendment rights. Muhamad emphasizes Dr. Benjamin Rush's profound influence beyond medicine, in shaping the nation's moral and educational fabric. The conversation serves as a rallying cry for contemporary physicians to reclaim their heritage as defenders of liberty, to organize, speak out against injustice, and fight for the ability to practice medicine ethically and without political interference, much like their predecessors did. Muhamad asserts that this new revolution is just beginning, with doctors ready to defend life, liberty, and patient dignity on new battlefields like clinics, courtrooms, and the internet.

Our presenting sponsor is Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd].

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From Founding Fathers to modern battles: physician activism in a politicized era

Founding director of the Doctor of Medical Science program at The College of St. Scholastica, Kenneth Botelho, discusses his article, "In the absence of physician mentorship, who will train the next generation of primary care clinicians? [https://kevinmd.com/2025/05/in-the-absence-of-physician-mentorship-who-will-train-the-next-generation-of-primary-care-clinicians.html]" Kenneth highlights the accelerating crisis caused by the erosion of physician mentorship, particularly impacting physician associates (PAs) in primary care who historically relied on close, hands-on guidance. He explains that with an aging physician workforce and doctors leaving primary care, this traditional apprenticeship model is breaking down, leaving many new PAs with minimal supervision and high-pressure roles, increasing risks of burnout and clinical error. Kenneth argues that while the old system cannot be revived, innovative solutions like postgraduate PA fellowships and residencies, supported by Doctor of Medical Science (DMSc) programs, offer a path forward. He details how these programs can create a new pipeline of PA leaders equipped with advanced clinical competence, leadership skills, and an understanding of value-based care and health care economics, enabling them to fill mentorship gaps and improve a strained health care system. Kenneth stresses that this is a system issue requiring bold, collaborative action to support learners and ensure patient safety.

Our presenting sponsor is Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd].

Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd], your AI assistant for clinical workflow, is transforming how clinicians work. Now you can streamline and customize documentation, surface information right at the point of care, and automate tasks with just a click.

Part of Microsoft Cloud for Healthcare, Dragon Copilot offers an extensible AI workspace and a single, integrated platform to help unlock new levels of efficiency. Plus, it's backed by a proven track record and decades of clinical expertise—and it's built on a foundation of trust.

It's time to ease your administrative burdens and stay focused on what matters most with Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow.

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Who will train the next generation of primary care clinicians without physician mentorship?

Hospitalist Jasminka Vukanovic-Criley discusses her article, "When grief hits all at once: a morning of heartbreak and love [https://kevinmd.com/2025/04/when-grief-hits-all-at-once-a-morning-of-heartbreak-and-love.html]." Jasminka shares a deeply personal account of a Saturday morning where unexpected news of the passing of two friends, Natasa's mother Mirjana and her friend Thomas, both from cancer, suddenly immersed her in profound grief. She reflects on the fragility of life and the ripple effect of these losses, which led to a cascade of memories: her grandfather who would have turned 116, his mother who passed away on his birthday 49 years prior, and her own mother, whose 486th day of absence she was marking. Jasminka explores the experience of noticing signs and seeking meaning in numbers like 486, pondering the universe's mysterious ways of connecting events and emotions. The conversation delves into the nature of grief as an overwhelming yet navigable ocean, emphasizing the importance of cherishing loved ones, expressing love openly, and allowing oneself to feel sorrow, ultimately finding strength in remembrance and the enduring power of love. Jasminka's narrative is a poignant reminder to live fully and love fiercely, even amidst the inevitability of loss.

Our presenting sponsor is Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd].

Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd], your AI assistant for clinical workflow, is transforming how clinicians work. Now you can streamline and customize documentation, surface information right at the point of care, and automate tasks with just a click.

Part of Microsoft Cloud for Healthcare, Dragon Copilot offers an extensible AI workspace and a single, integrated platform to help unlock new levels of efficiency. Plus, it's backed by a proven track record and decades of clinical expertise—and it's built on a foundation of trust.

It's time to ease your administrative burdens and stay focused on what matters most with Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow.

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A physician's reflection on love, loss, and finding meaning in grief

Medical students Kaitlynn Esemaya, Anamaria Ancheta, and Annique McLune discuss their article, "Why vaccine access still fails America's most vulnerable groups [https://kevinmd.com/2025/04/why-vaccine-access-still-fails-americas-most-vulnerable-groups.html]." They highlight how social determinants of health drive pervasive inequities in vaccination rates among marginalized U.S. communities, exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic. Kaitlynn, Alexis, and Annique cite CDC data showing updated COVID-19 vaccine uptake for Non-Hispanic Black and Hispanic adults at 8 percent, nearly half that of white adults (15 percent) for 2023–2024. This disparity extends to other vaccines like HPV and influenza, with poverty being a key factor. The discussion covers the post-pandemic drop in childhood vaccinations due to access barriers like lack of insurance and provider shortages, particularly in rural areas. They also touch on HPV vaccine disparities, where only 76 percent of U.S. children received one dose by 2022, and varying awareness levels, such as only 40 percent of adults with less than a high school education being aware of HPV compared to 78 percent of college graduates. Kaitlynn, Alexis, and Annique point to the resurgence of measles, with 301 U.S. cases by March 2025, and address the critical issues of vaccine hesitancy, medical mistrust, and misinformation, noting that these challenges even affect health care workers. The conversation emphasizes the need for increased education, public promotion of vaccinations, and improved access to address these persistent failures.

Our presenting sponsor is Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd].

Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd], your AI assistant for clinical workflow, is transforming how clinicians work. Now you can streamline and customize documentation, surface information right at the point of care, and automate tasks with just a click.

Part of Microsoft Cloud for Healthcare, Dragon Copilot offers an extensible AI workspace and a single, integrated platform to help unlock new levels of efficiency. Plus, it's backed by a proven track record and decades of clinical expertise—and it's built on a foundation of trust.

It's time to ease your administrative burdens and stay focused on what matters most with Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow.

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Addressing U.S. vaccine inequities in vulnerable communities

Surgeon Suhaib J. S. Ahmad discusses his article, "Why even the best employees are silently quitting health care [https://kevinmd.com/2025/06/why-even-the-best-employees-are-silently-quitting-health-care.html]." Suhaib explores the phenomenon of highly competent and once-passionate health care professionals disengaging and leaving their roles, often without overt complaint. He argues that this "silent quitting" stems not just from issues with the system or individual leaders, but critically from a dysfunctional organizational culture characterized by a lack of clear values, poor communication, and an environment where mediocrity and toxicity can thrive. Suhaib contrasts this with a thriving culture where employees feel empowered and listened to, referencing the Google walkout as an example of employees feeling safe to speak up. He emphasizes that leaders must actively engage with staff, understand their needs, and foster open dialogue to shift the culture from "survival mode" to one of growth and shared vision. For employees feeling stuck, Suhaib suggests that actively choosing to move to a better environment or to stay and strategically work on issues is preferable to silently disengaging. The conversation offers a call to action for leaders to ask their teams: What don't we talk about around here that we should be talking about?

Our presenting sponsor is Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd].

Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd], your AI assistant for clinical workflow, is transforming how clinicians work. Now you can streamline and customize documentation, surface information right at the point of care, and automate tasks with just a click.

Part of Microsoft Cloud for Healthcare, Dragon Copilot offers an extensible AI workspace and a single, integrated platform to help unlock new levels of efficiency. Plus, it's backed by a proven track record and decades of clinical expertise—and it's built on a foundation of trust.

It's time to ease your administrative burdens and stay focused on what matters most with Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow.

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How organizational culture drives top talent away

Medical students Vineeth Amba and Archita Goyal discuss their article, "What's driving medical students away from primary care? [https://kevinmd.com/2025/05/whats-driving-medical-students-away-from-primary-care.html]" They share the widespread discouragement medical students encounter regarding primary care careers, despite initial aspirations to serve communities. Vineeth and Archita highlight the ongoing crisis in primary care, evidenced by a decline to just 25 percent of the physician workforce, high burnout rates, and a projected U.S. shortage of approximately 68,000 PCPs by 2036, which impacts patient access for about 100 million people. They argue that underinvestment is a core issue, contrasting the 5–7 percent of health care spending primary care receives with the 35 percent of visits it handles. The discussion explores how increased investment, as exemplified by initiatives in states like Delaware, Rhode Island, and Oregon, and the proposed PC4YOU legislation in Massachusetts, can transform the field. Vineeth and Archita explain that PC4YOU aims to shift to value-based care, mandate 15 percent primary care spending by 2029, and incentivize innovations to improve health equity and make primary care a more sustainable and attractive specialty for future physicians.

Our presenting sponsor is Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd].

Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd], your AI assistant for clinical workflow, is transforming how clinicians work. Now you can streamline and customize documentation, surface information right at the point of care, and automate tasks with just a click.

Part of Microsoft Cloud for Healthcare, Dragon Copilot offers an extensible AI workspace and a single, integrated platform to help unlock new levels of efficiency. Plus, it's backed by a proven track record and decades of clinical expertise—and it's built on a foundation of trust.

It's time to ease your administrative burdens and stay focused on what matters most with Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow.

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Why are medical students turning away from primary care?

Family physician and certified executive leadership coach Lisa Herbert discusses her article, "From burnout to breakthrough: How a coaching culture transforms health care [https://kevinmd.com/2025/03/from-burnout-to-breakthrough-how-a-coaching-culture-transforms-health-care.html]." Lisa shares her personal journey with physician burnout, a crisis affecting 54 percent of physicians, and how discovering coaching revolutionized her approach to leadership and her career. She explains that a coaching culture, which emphasizes curiosity, continuous growth, and collaborative problem-solving over traditional command-and-control management, is a powerful antidote to burnout. Lisa outlines a roadmap for physician leaders to build this culture, starting with self-awareness, mastering fundamental coaching skills, and institutionalizing coaching practices. The conversation highlights the ripple effect of coaching, extending beyond physician well-being to improve patient interactions, medical training, and even personal relationships, ultimately benefiting health care organizations through better retention and patient experience. Physician leaders are encouraged to explore coaching, while executives should assess how organizational systems can support this transformative shift.

Our presenting sponsor is Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd].

Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd], your AI assistant for clinical workflow, is transforming how clinicians work. Now you can streamline and customize documentation, surface information right at the point of care, and automate tasks with just a click.

Part of Microsoft Cloud for Healthcare, Dragon Copilot offers an extensible AI workspace and a single, integrated platform to help unlock new levels of efficiency. Plus, it's backed by a proven track record and decades of clinical expertise—and it's built on a foundation of trust.

It's time to ease your administrative burdens and stay focused on what matters most with Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow.

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Combating physician burnout with a coaching leadership style

Physician coach and marriage and family therapy graduate student Jillian Rigert discusses her article, "Fear of other people's opinions nearly killed me. Here's what freed me [https://kevinmd.com/2025/05/fear-of-other-peoples-opinions-nearly-killed-me-heres-what-freed-me.html]." Jillian shares her harrowing journey through medical discharge from the military and transitioning out of surgery residency, which plunged her into guilt, shame, and a near-fatal struggle with self-worth tied to her career and others' approval. She describes how isolating and starving herself, she reached a rock bottom where apathy paradoxically led to a turning point: publishing deeply personal articles on KevinMD. This act of vulnerability, initially a way to get her story out before an anticipated death, brought unexpected support and began to lift the shame. Jillian explains her process of recovery, which involved detaching her worth from career achievements and, crucially, from the fear of other people's opinions. She emphasizes that understanding others' judgments as reflections of their own biases, and cultivating a curious, compassionate, and non-judgmental mindset towards herself and others, were key to her freedom. Jillian's powerful message is that your life is paramount, and she encourages listeners to question why they might prioritize external validation over their own self-perception, advocating for self-compassion and seeking support to reclaim their narratives.

Our presenting sponsor is Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd].

Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd], your AI assistant for clinical workflow, is transforming how clinicians work. Now you can streamline and customize documentation, surface information right at the point of care, and automate tasks with just a click.

Part of Microsoft Cloud for Healthcare, Dragon Copilot offers an extensible AI workspace and a single, integrated platform to help unlock new levels of efficiency. Plus, it's backed by a proven track record and decades of clinical expertise—and it's built on a foundation of trust.

It's time to ease your administrative burdens and stay focused on what matters most with Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow.

VISIT SPONSOR → https://aka.ms/kevinmd

SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST → https://www.kevinmd.com/podcast

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I was trapped by fear of what others thought. This is what set me free.

Nephrologist Saad S. Alshohaib discusses his article, "Why truth still matters in the courtroom: lessons from a physician witness [https://kevinmd.com/2025/06/why-truth-still-matters-in-the-courtroom-lessons-from-a-physician-witness.html]." The conversation provides a profound reflection on his decade of experience serving as a medical expert witness, a role he describes as walking a "narrow bridge between medicine and the law." Saad shares his seven core principles for physicians called to testify, emphasizing that their ultimate loyalty must be to the truth, not the side that hired them. The discussion covers the importance of integrity over convenience, clarity over complexity, and honesty over comfort. He makes a compelling case for seeing the humanity in both the patient in the chart and the clinician accused of making an error, and using testimony not just to judge, but to heal the system. This episode is an essential guide for any medical professional on navigating the ethical complexities of the legal system while holding fast to the truth.

Our presenting sponsor is Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd].

Want to streamline your clinical documentation and take advantage of customizations that put you in control? What about the ability to surface information right at the point of care or automate tasks with just a click? Now, you can.

Microsoft Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow, is transforming how clinicians work. Offering an extensible AI workspace and a single, integrated platform, Dragon Copilot can help you unlock new levels of efficiency. Plus, it's backed by a proven track record and decades of clinical expertise and it's part of Microsoft Cloud for Healthcare–and it's built on a foundation of trust.

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Your only client is the truth: Navigating the space between medicine and law

Historian and ethicist Nigel Cameron discusses his article, "How DrKoop.com rose and fell: the untold story behind the Surgeon General's startup [https://kevinmd.com/2025/04/how-drkoop-com-rose-and-fell-the-untold-story-behind-the-surgeon-generals-startup.html]." The conversation chronicles the dramatic history of the iconic dot-com era company, from its modest beginnings as a personal medical record system to its meteoric rise as the world's top health site. Nigel explains how the company's core strategy was to leverage the unparalleled credibility of former Surgeon General C. Everett Koop, leading to a wildly successful IPO that raised over $84 million. The discussion then details the company's rapid collapse, focusing on the ethical blunders, like blurring the line between advertising and information, that eroded public trust. This episode serves as a cautionary tale about brand credibility, startup hubris, and the ultimate indignity Dr. Koop faced when his name and brand were sold in a fire sale after accumulating over $200 million in losses.

Our presenting sponsor is Microsoft Dragon Copilot [https://aka.ms/kevinmd].

Want to streamline your clinical documentation and take advantage of customizations that put you in control? What about the ability to surface information right at the point of care or automate tasks with just a click? Now, you can.

Microsoft Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow, is transforming how clinicians work. Offering an extensible AI workspace and a single, integrated platform, Dragon Copilot can help you unlock new levels of efficiency. Plus, it's backed by a proven track record and decades of clinical expertise and it's part of Microsoft Cloud for Healthcare–and it's built on a foundation of trust.

Ease your administrative burdens and stay focused on what matters most with Dragon Copilot, your AI assistant for clinical workflow.

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When credibility is your only asset: the cautionary tale of DrKoop.com

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