"I prefer to ask people, have you had dogs before?  What did you love about them? If you could pull those qualities from that dog, the things you love most about him, what were they? And if you'd had a magic wand what would I like to just tweak a little bit."
 - Suzanne Clothier

Episode 8 of series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering Transcript [https://share.descript.com/view/XpSgt2pyTbU] ( Part2)

Have you ever wondered what goes into assessing shelter animals and adopting the perfect pet? We sat down with Suzanne Clothier, an expert in the field, to unravel the complexities and nuances of animal assessments. Our discussion delves into her unique animal assessment tools - CARAT, RAT, and FAT, and how they contribute to understanding  behavior. We also take an in-depth look at how our emotions and biases can affect our decisions when it comes to selecting our next four legged-family member.

Guest: Suzanne Clothier [https://suzanneclothier.com/] has worked with animals professionally since 1977, with a background includes obedience, agility, puppy testing, breeding, Search and Rescue, conformation, instructing, kennel management and AAT.
Her Relationship Centered Training™ approach blends science and heart to create humane, effective and practical solutions for dogs and the people who work with them, whether professional working dogs or couch warming companions. Her suite of assessment tools provide a powerful framework for trainers and organizations:

RAT™ (Relationship Assessment Tool) [https://suzanneclothier.com/relationship-assessment-tool/] – handler/dog dynamics, rapid assessment plus ability to track and compare
CARAT™ (Clothier Animal Response Assessment Tool) [https://suzanneclothier.com/carat/] – temperament assessment on 6 categories, 21 dimensions
FAT™ (Functional Assessment Tool, release in 2022) [https://suzanneclothier.com/fat/]– global of functionality/welfare assessment across physiological, social and cognitive dimensions

Book Recommendations:
Kinship with All Life [https://www.amazon.com/Kinship-All-Life-Allen-Boone/dp/0060609125/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=]by J. Allen Boone and  Behaving As If the God in All Life Mattered [https://www.amazon.com/Behaving-God-All-Life-Mattered/dp/0927978245] by Machaelle Small Wright


Other Links:
Meet Your Match [https://aspcameetyourmatch.org/]
Home to Home Program [https://home-home.org/findpet?type=dog&for=Adoption]






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82: Expanding Understanding in Canine Behavior Evaluations with Suzanne Clothier (Part 2) S8

"So I'm asking very different questions in how I set up the test, because I want to know what is your native response here? Not a trained response, not a prompted response. I'm not begging you or just simply orienting you to me because I'm doing something. I want to know what you do if I just do my thing and you're in the same space. So the questions are different automatically." - Suzanne Clothier 

Episode 7 of Series 8 (Part 1) Transcript [https://share.descript.com/view/5CPFxkU8fGk]

Ever wondered why dogs behave the way they do? Understanding the nuances of the right questions to ask can dramatically influence the lives of shelter animals and their adoption success. Suzanne's  insights will change your perspective on how you think about canine evaluations.

We'll introduce you to Suzanne's innovative assessment tool that simplifies understanding temperament, aiding those in the shelter industry to make more informed decisions.

he challenges of working in a shelter can be immense. From matching a dog to the right forever home, to making the difficult choice of euthanasia due to limited resources. Learn how asking the right questions and understanding the psyche of our canine companions can make all the difference. With Suzanne's tools such as the Animal Response Assessment Tool, Relationship Assessment Tool, and the new Functional Assessment Tool, we'll explore how to navigate these complexities, ensuring more successful adoptions and happier shelter dogs. Tune in for a deep dive into  the challenges shelter workers face, and the incredible difference they can make in the lives of our furry friends.

Guest: Suzanne Clothier [https://suzanneclothier.com/] has worked with animals professionally since 1977, with a background includes obedience, agility, puppy testing, breeding, Search and Rescue, conformation, instructing, kennel management and AAT.
Her Relationship Centered Training™ approach blends science and heart to create humane, effective and practical solutions for dogs and the people who work with them, whether professional working dogs or couch warming companions. Her suite of assessment tools provide a powerful framework for trainers and organizations:

RAT™ (Relationship Assessment Tool) [https://suzanneclothier.com/relationship-assessment-tool/] – handler/dog dynamics, rapid assessment plus ability to track and compare
CARAT™ (Clothier Animal Response Assessment Tool) [https://suzanneclothier.com/carat/] – temperament assessment on 6 categories, 21 dimensions
FAT™ (Functional Assessment Tool, release in 2022) [https://suzanneclothier.com/fat/]– global of functionality/welfare assessment across physiological, social and cognitive dimensions

Book Recommendations: (see part 2)!

Other Links:
Chess and Thomas [https://www.betterhelp.com/advice/temperament/thomas-and-chess-temperament-type-longitudinal-study-and-findings/]


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81: Expanding Understanding in Canine Behavior Evaluations with Suzanne Clothier (Part 1) S8

They are so magical and meaningful, and I mean magical in the magical sense. I mean, just as in open your eyes and look at them. Just look at what they are doing and there is difficulty and there is hardship in their lives, but they just carry on.- Andrew Anderson

October Special #2 Transcript [https://share.descript.com/view/VBCExOBpkhE]
Today, we have a  guest who is here to share insights about his new book, "The Magic of Cats." [https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Cats-Andrew-Anderson/dp/1803410663] With a background in creative writing and an adventure into the realm of Celtic bear gods, Andrew Anderson takes us on a fascinating journey exploring the complex world of cat symbolism, from ancient Egyptian beliefs to the association between cats and witchcraft. He challenges stereotypes surrounding cats and offers a fresh perspective on these beloved creatures, inviting us to see them as more than just enigmatic familiars.

We'll also be navigating the intriguing history of cats, particularly the dark superstitions that have surrounded and impacted them over the years. Andrew will guide us through the complex legacy of this history on the cats we adore today, shedding light on the unjust persecution of black cats. Get ready to journey through various spiritual practices associated with cats, their portrayal in literature, and the important role they play in Islamic and Chinese cultures.

Guest: After trying a number of spiritualties, Andrew discovered Druidry in 2015. He is currently studying the Druid grade with the Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids. He moved to Stratford-upon-Avon in 1996 and has lived there ever since. He has recently retrained as an Environmental Manager to put his love of nature and the environment to practical use . Andrew loves story-telling in all its forms, whether it be poetry, novels, theatre, film or TV. He enjoys going to open mic events, reading his poetry and hearing the work of others. He loves working with the spirit of a place and loves spending time in the nearby Cotswold hills. He doesn't have any children but does have two cats, who are just as much of a handful!  @ajanderson72 on Instagram

Book Recommendations:  Watership Down: A Novel [https://www.amazon.com/Watership-Down-Novel-Richard-Adams/dp/0743277708/ref=sr_1_1?crid=336XKU34MV2L3&keywords=watership+down&qid=1696287930&s=books&sprefix=watership+down%2Cstripbooks%2C135&sr=1-1]by Richard Adams and A Black Fox Running [https://www.amazon.com/Black-Fox-Running-Brian-Carter-ebook/dp/B078JPBTPQ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=QVEQRLK1Y4SA&keywords=black+fox+running&qid=1696288127&s=books&sprefix=black+fox+running%2Cstripbooks%2C136&sr=1-1]by Brian Carter

Other Links:
E9: October Special! Ornithomancy: Birds a… [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/episodes/E9-October-Special--Ornithomancy-Birds-as-Omens--Prophecies-and-Messengers-of-the-Gods-with-Folklore-Historian--Boria-Sax-e18olgm]


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80: Feline Mysteries: An Exploration into "The Magic of Cats" with Writer, Andrew Anderson (October Special #2?!)

October Special! Transcript [https://share.descript.com/view/GtmAcojyu2A]
Have you ever imagined finding yourself inside the belly of a whale, like a bizarre narrative pulled straight out of myth or biblical lore? Allow us to lead you through a captivating conversation with celebrated author Daniel Kraus, as he unravels the themes of his latest gripping novel, Whalefall, a survival tale set inside a sperm whale. Get ready to probe into the blurred lines between monsters and heroes, and comprehend the profound ways our understanding of the world is shaped by the intricate connections we share with animals.

Guest: DANIEL KRAUS (he/him) is the New York Times bestselling author of more than a dozen novels and graphic novels. He coauthored The Living Dead with legendary filmmaker George A. Romero. With Guillermo del Toro, he coauthored The Shape of Water, based on the same idea the two created for the Oscar-winning film. Also with del Toro, Kraus coauthored Trollhunters, which was adapted into the Emmy-winning Netflix series. He has won two Odyssey Awards (for Rotters and Scowler), and The Death and Life of Zebulon Finch was named one of Entertainment Weekly’s Top 10 Books of the Year. His books have been Library Guild selections, YALSA Best Fiction for Young Adults picks, Bram Stoker finalists, and more. His work has been translated into over twenty languages. Daniel lives with his wife in Chicago. Visit him at DanielKraus.com [https://www.danielkraus.com/].

Book Recommendation: Men, Women, and Chain Saws: Gender in the Modern Horror Film [https://www.amazon.com/Men-Women-Chain-Saws-Gender/dp/0691006202] by Carol J. Clover  and The Plague Dogs [https://www.amazon.com/Plague-Dogs-Richard-Adams/dp/1101970693/ref=sr_1_1?crid=13QAXVXZXUMYE&keywords=Plague+dogs&qid=1696264450&s=books&sprefix=plague+dogs%2Cstripbooks%2C136&sr=1-1]by Richard Adams and Fathoms: The World in the Whale [https://www.amazon.com/Fathoms-World-Whale-Rebecca-Giggs/dp/198212069X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2OEGX4ON6NPS4&keywords=Fathom+of+the+whale&qid=1696264526&s=books&sprefix=fathom+of+the+whale%2Cstripbooks%2C136&sr=1-1] by Rebecca Giggs

Other Links:
E6: Dog Bites: The Fallout and Emotional Toll wit… [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/episodes/E6-Dog-Bites-The-Fallout-and-Emotional-Toll-with-Dr--Sara-Owczarczak-Garstecka-e16h61j]
E19: Fuzz: When Nature Breaks the Law- A Cha… [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/episodes/E19-Fuzz-When-Nature-Breaks-the-Law--A-Chat-with-Author--Mary-Roach-e18cf4h]
The Atlas Obcsura Podcast [https://open.spotify.com/episode/0BGaYgWIptoa49jha5yZY1?si=8bb75fdd2a934f2b]
She Wore Black Podcast [https://open.spotify.com/episode/3v4B5Hy0wRsY3tv6NXokXe]

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79: Redefining Monsters and Heroes: A Talk with Author, Daniel Kraus (October Special #1?!))

It is not about animals. It is not about people. There is not a increase in cruelty and neglect in this country. There is not an increase in horrible dogs. The system is lower functioning than it's been in a long time. It's moving more slowly and it never really worked in the first place. - Kristen Hassen

Episode 6 of Series 8 Transcript [https://share.descript.com/view/YJOpZrjqdlE]
In this episode we dive headfirst into the complexities of animal shelters while also
shedding light on the systemic issues that animal shelters battle. We'll delve into the delicate balance within the shelter system, as the staff strive to serve both the animals and the public.

Guest: Over the previous decade, I’ve led three, large, government animal shelters in major U.S. cities. I’ve demonstrated that effectively leading animal services agencies requires a careful balance among five elements: public health and safety, lifesaving outcomes, community programs, humane care, and cost efficiency. I believe the most successful animal shelters engage their entire community in solutions, opening their doors, making it easy to help, and celebrating every single person who helps lost and homeless pets. 
Today, I provide consultation and support services to many of the nation’s largest and most high-profile animal shelters. I also lead projects and provide consultative services to numerous national organizations including Petco Foundation, Pedigree Foundation, Banfield Foundation, VCA Charities, and Best Friends Animal Society.

Book Recommendations:  All About Love: New Visions [https://www.amazon.com/All-About-Love-New-Visions/dp/0060959479]by Bell Hooks and The Lives and Deaths of Shelter Animals: The Lives and Deaths of Shelter Animals [https://www.amazon.com/Lives-Deaths-Shelter-Animals/dp/1503612856]by Katja M. Guenther

Other Links:
The Netherlands: Worlds First Country with Zero Stray Dogs- [https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/netherlands-worlds-first-country-zero-stray-dogs-how-achieved/]
Outcomes for Pets with Kristen Hassen [https://outcomesforpets.com/]
44: Animals and Domestic Violence with Theres… [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/episodes/44-Animals-and-Domestic-Violence-with-Therese-Lillieskld-S5-e1ncdhu]
49: The Culture of Free Living Dogs wit… [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/episodes/49-The-Culture-of-Free-Living-Dogs-with-Sindhoor-Pangal-S6-e1p5k1o]

Show Credits⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.thedealwithanimals.com/about]

⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.thedealwithanimals.com/testimonials-1]

What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠Beginner Podcast Consulting Services⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.thedealwithanimals.com/services]!

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78: Speeding Up the System with Kristen Hassen (S8)

Episode 5 of Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering Transcript [https://share.descript.com/view/dOLqkCZt6m8]

Discover a groundbreaking initiative between Father Joe's Villages and Helen Woodward Animal Center. This unique collaboration is changing the sheltering landscape and enhancing the lives of both humans and animals by allowing individuals experiencing homelessness to stay with their beloved pets.

We delve into the concept of co-sheltering, a lifeline to individuals grappling with financial hardship, especially in the wake of the pandemic. We're joined by Jesse Casement, Division Director of Client Services at Father Joe's Villages [https://my.neighbor.org/]and Jessica Gercke, Peer Director at Helen Woodward Animal Center [https://animalcenter.org/]. as we discuss the importance of comforting both humans and their furry family members in times of crisis.

Guests: Jesse Casement has dedicated her past 13 years with the largest service provider in San Diego to supporting San Diegans experiencing homelessness. In that time, she has championed the progressive view that shelters should welcome pets along with their humans — a policy that, for many neighbors in need, has been truly life-changing.  Jesse has fostered relationships with local animal welfare organizations and veterinary providers in order to bring resources, education, and support to the clients living at Father Joe’s Villages with their animals, as well as to the Father Joe’s Villages staff who strive to create a welcoming and safe environment for people and their pets.  Apart from her role at Father Joe’s Villages, Jesse is a member of the Co-Sheltering Collaborative, a peer-to-peer learning network focused on sheltering people and their animals together.

Jessica Gercke has spent over 25 years creating and refining media/publicity campaigns for a wide variety of professional industries. Through it all, her heart and soul belonged to animals.  She has put her knowledge of marketing and publicity to work for Helen Woodward Animal Center over the last 11 years.  This work means that she has been surrounded by animals every day for the last 4,000 days and involved in highlighting the programs that rely on the incredible bond between people and pets.   Sharing these unique stories with the world has been the happiest joy of her life thus far.

Book Recommendations: Never Let Me Go [https://www.amazon.com/Never-Let-Me-Kazuo-Ishiguro/dp/1400078776] by Kazuo Ishiguro The Housemaid's Secret [https://www.amazon.com/Housemaids-Secret-Freida-McFadden/dp/0349132615/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1V9NJG6Z68QYL&keywords=the+house+maid+secret&qid=1695348876&s=books&sprefix=the+housemaid+secret%2Cstripbooks%2C158&sr=1-1]by Freida McFadden and

Other Links:
E18: Breaking Stereotypes and Talking Abou… [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/episodes/E18-Breaking-Stereotypes-and-Talking-About-Cats-with-The-TrapKing--Sterling-Davis-e19oafc]
E22: Ecofeminism and Entangled Empathy wit… [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/episodes/E22-Ecofeminism-and-Entangled-Empathy-with-Lori-Gruen-e1bio44]


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⁠⁠⁠⁠Guest Profiles and Book Recommendations⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.thedealwithanimals.com/testimonials-1]

What to start your own podcast in he Animal Advocacy or Animal Welfare Space? Check out my ⁠⁠⁠⁠Beginner Podcast Consulting Services⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.thedealwithanimals.com/services]!

77: The Unhoused Pet Crisis: Co-Sheltering with Jesse Casement and Jessica Gercke (S8)

September Special Episode! With Grisha Stewart, best know for her book Ahimsa Dog Training, BAT, and The Grisha Stewart Academy, as well as the remarkable, Laurie C. Williams (The Dog Diva), who has seen it all in her 35 years of dog training. 

There has been  dramatic transformations the dog training industry over the past few decades, from the use of aversives to the kinder and more empowering positive reinforcement methods. Eager to learn how trainers have navigated this shift and still manage to communicate effectively with dogs? You're in the right place.

This episode is a sneak preview to September 20th's  virtual rendezvous of renowned dog trainers and behavior experts like Chirag Patel, Debbie McMullen, Jordan Shelley, Laurie Williams, and Michael Shikashio, all gathered for a candid and captivating canine confab. 

Join in on September 20th at 10 am Pacific Time in Zoom at the Grisha Stewart Academy for this invaluable discussion. 

 Don't miss out; fetch your spot at http://school.grishastewart.com/courses/shift today!

Book Recommendations: Transformation Through Intimacy, Revised Edition: The Journey toward Awakened Monogamy [https://www.amazon.com/Transformation-Through-Intimacy-Revised-Awakened/dp/145964090X] by  Robert Augustus Masters [https://www.amazon.com/Robert-Augustus-Masters/e/B003O7XN8W/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1] and
All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten: Uncommon Thoughts on Common Things [https://www.amazon.com/Really-Need-Know-Learned-Kindergarten/dp/034546639X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3LCMP6ML0LS11&keywords=all+i+really+need+to+know+i+learned+in+book&qid=1694626245&s=books&sprefix=all+i+really+need+to+know+i+learned+inbook%2Cstripbooks%2C155&sr=1-1]by  Robert Fulghum [https://www.amazon.com/Robert-Fulghum/e/B000AQ100S/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1]

Other Links:
E6: Dog Bites: The Fallout and Emotional Toll wit… [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/episodes/E6-Dog-Bites-The-Fallout-and-Emotional-Toll-with-Dr--Sara-Owczarczak-Garstecka-e16h61j]
E13: Conservation Detection Dogs with Kayl… [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/episodes/E13-Conservation-Detection-Dogs-with-Kayla-Fratt-of-Conservation-K9-e17foa3]
E27: Summer Special! with Clive Wynne Its al… [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/episodes/E27-Summer-Special--with-Clive-Wynne-Its-all-about-the-dogs-e1gvbml]
36: Aggression in Dogs Con Mini-Series: wit… [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/episodes/36-Aggression-in-Dogs-Con-Mini-Series-with-Laura-Monaco-Torelli-Part-3-e1oach6]




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76: Staying Curious: Empowerment and Change in the Dog Training Community with Grisha Stewart and Laurie C. Williams (Special Episode!)

Episode Four in Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering Transcript [https://share.descript.com/view/b43KrEo7KfX]

Have you ever considered the power of storytelling in animal advocacy? We chat with Arin Greenwood, a passionate advocate for animal welfare and a riveting storyteller. In this conversation we explore Arin's experiences in animal welfare journalism, the strategies she employs to engage the community, and uncover the potential of her work to challenge restrictive pet laws.

Arin unravels her favorite dog books, and we discuss about the importance of animals in our lives. Learn about the human-animal relationship through her eyes, and understand how accessible strategies (like nose-boops!) can connect animal shelters with their communities. Arin's passion for animals shines through her work, and her insights provide a refreshing perspective on animal advocacy.

Guest: Arin Greenwood is an animal writer and former lawyer living in St. Petersburg, Florida. Arin was animal welfare editor for The Huffington Post. Her stories about cats, dogs, and other critters have been published in the Dodo, Today.com, the Washington Post, the American Bar Association Journal, Creative Loafing, Slate, and other publications. Arin now works in animal nonprofits. including Her novel Your Robot Dog Will Die [https://www.amazon.com/Your-Robot-Dog-Will-Die/dp/1616958391] was published by Soho Teen in 2018, and has been optioned by Centerboro Productions.

Book Recommendations: Pit Bull: The Battle Over An American Icon [https://www.amazon.com/Pit-Bull-Battle-over-American/dp/0345803116/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1FHG27Y9VKOSI&keywords=Pit+Bull+by+Bromwyn+Dickey&qid=1693757989&s=books&sprefix=pit+bull+by+bromwyn+dickey%2Cstripbooks%2C157&sr=1-1] by Bromwen Dickey and Lessons in Chemistry: A Nove [https://www.amazon.com/Lessons-Chemistry-Novel-Bonnie-Garmus/dp/038554734X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1TE2XYFUHFPWH&keywords=lessons+in+chemistry+book&qid=1693758048&s=books&sprefix=Less%2Cstripbooks%2C151&sr=1-1]l by Bonnie Garmus




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75: Engage the Public in Your Mission: 5 Strategies with Writer, Arin Greenwood (S8)

Episode 3 of Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare and Sheltering Transcript [https://share.descript.com/view/Ne9H3RrWtjV]

In our discussion, we traverse through Dr. Jervis's intriguing research (Along with Collaborator Laura Bray) on relocating companion animals from the overpopulated regions of the Southern US to the North, a mission that's changing the landscape of animal welfare. We discuss the complexities that exist between the preferences of potential adopters and the available animals, and the compelling need some feel to act as rescuers.

 Guest: Lori Jervis (PhD, FGSA) [https://www.ou.edu/cas/anthropology/faculty-staff/lori-jervis]is a Professor of Anthropology and Co-Director of the Center for Applied Social Research at the University of Oklahoma. She is a medical and cultural anthropologist as well as a gerontologist. Her animal-related research includes free-roaming dogs in a tribal community and  relationships between Purple Martins and the “landlords” who care for them. Her most recent study focuses on the relocation of companion animals from the southern US to the North as a strategy for reducing space-related killing in shelters.  (Link to Her Research [http://lorijervis.oucreate.com/])

Book Recommendations: The Human Manure Handbook [https://www.the-compost-gardener.com/humanure-handbook.html] by Joseph Jenkins
Flight Ways: Life and Loss at the Edge of Extinction [https://www.amazon.com/Flight-Ways-Extinction-Critical-Perspectives/dp/0231166192/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1G4RSIKIIWV92&keywords=Ways+of+life+and+loss+at+the+edge+of+extinction&qid=1692901867&s=books&sprefix=ways+of+life+and+loss+at+the+edge+of+extinction%2Cstripbooks%2C256&sr=1-1]  byThom Van Dooren

Other Links:
67: May Special!: Barking Up the Right Tree… [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/episodes/67-May-Special--Barking-Up-the-Right-Tree-Applied-Ethology-and-the-Human-Dog-Connection-with-Kim-Brophey-e1p3tc7]
56: Friend-sheep with Guest Host Nanett… [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/episodes/56-Friend-sheep-with-Guest-Host-Nanette-McCann-S6-e1uak8p]
50: New Year's Special- Recognizing an… [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anthrozoo/episodes/50-New-Years-Special--Recognizing-and-Overcoming-Compassion-Fatigue-with-Hilary-Hager-Encore-Ep-7-e1sc5pc]



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74:On The Move: Exploring Companion Animal Transport with Dr. Lori Jervis (S8)

Episode 2 of Series 8: The World of Animal Welfare

Ashley's insights shed light on the complex challenges faced by underserved communities in the realm of animal welfare.
However, it's not all grim. Ashley shares the transformative work being done by Pets for Life. The program extends its services to over 50 cities in the U.S., offering access to pet services for individuals living in poverty.

Guest:  Ashley Anderson-Mutch is a Senior Program Manager of Enforcement and Policy Reform with Pets for Life at the Humane Society of the United States. She works with animal welfare organizations across the country to address areas of inequity with internal and external policies that disproportionately affect underserved communities and communities of color. She strives to help develop an understanding of the way in which animal welfare is connected to larger issues of institutional discrimination and historical oppression for people.
She also works with several municipal shelter organizations and local animal enforcement teams to implement community based support practices.

Book Recommendations: Stamped from the Beginning: A Graphic History of Racist Ideas in America [https://www.amazon.com/Stamped-Beginning-Graphic-History-America/dp/1984859439/ref=sr_1_1?crid=5NGGV1W7PRB1&keywords=stamped+from+the+beginning&qid=1691616911&s=books&sprefix=stamped+from+the+beginning%2Cstripbooks%2C147&sr=1-1] by Ibram X. Kendi [https://www.amazon.com/Ibram-X-Kendi/e/B00IMUM1R0/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1] and Joel Christian Gill [https://www.amazon.com/Joel-Christian-Gill/e/B00JGTXJW2/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_2] and The House in the Cerulean Sea [https://www.amazon.com/House-Cerulean-Sea-TJ-Klune/dp/1250217288] by TJ Klune

Links: Pets for Life -Map [https://humanepro.org/pets-for-life/where]

If you liked this episode, try:
E26: Pets in Poverty: Pet Retention and Housing with Amanda Arrington, Senior Director or HSUS' Pets for Life [https://open.spotify.com/episode/0NgSw5jVVMTpNPI5Mez2mB]
E24: Companion Animals for Reform and Equity with COO Jen Evans [https://open.spotify.com/episode/5yUXqyg623KpoLTWTLwt3i]
E28: Animal Care Deserts, Accessibility and Love with CARE CEO, James Evans [https://open.spotify.com/episode/2nOZ1WTejPdcinb3BafVE6]

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73: Breaking Barriers: Unpacking Access, Attitudes, and Change in Animal Welfare with Ashley Anderson-Mutch (S8)

Humans interact with animals every day of our lives. Even those without pets
interact with animals in various ways: diet, wildlife, the clothes they wear.
Even most medicines use animals in testing or in the medicine itself. This is a
podcast about Anthrozoology: the study of interaction between humans and
non-human animals. My hope is to help in research accessibility to listeners
while bringing the lived experience of our human connection with animals to
academia. www.thedealwithanimals.com hosted and edited by Marika S. Bell. Music
composed by Kai Strandskov https://kaistrandskov.com Support this podcast:
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