In this episode, Lex speaks with Marcelo Ruiz de Olano [https://www.linkedin.com/in/marceloruizdeolano/], Co-Founder of KPK (Karpatkey), an on-chain asset management firm born out of Gnosis DAO. Marcelo recounts KPK’s evolution from stewarding Gnosis’s $1B treasury to advising on more than $2B for leading protocols like ENS, Balancer, and the Ethereum Foundation. The discussion dives into the mechanics of non-custodial treasury management - balancing governance, security, and risk - along with strategies across lending, liquidity provision, and stablecoin yields. Marcelo also shares why the rise of large Ethereum treasury companies could be a turning point for DeFi, injecting institutional-scale liquidity and potentially making ETH more liquid than Bitcoin.

 

NOTABLE DISCUSSION POINTS:

 1. Origins and Scale of On-Chain Treasury Management
    KPK spun out of Gnosis DAO, which had one of the earliest and largest on-chain treasuries (~$1B). From there, KPK evolved into an independent manager now advising on over $2B of DAO and foundation treasuries (ENS, Balancer, Ethereum Foundation, etc.), pioneering non-custodial, fully on-chain asset management practices.
 2. Conservative, Mission-Driven Approach vs. Yield-Chasing
    Unlike many DeFi actors during “DeFi Summer,” KPK deliberately rejected risky high-yield strategies. Instead, they prioritized capital preservation and mission alignment—for example, ensuring ENS’s treasury only supports Ethereum-strengthening initiatives (like minority client staking or avoiding centralization risks). This contrarian, values-driven approach built trust and positioned them as long-term stewards of DeFi treasuries.
 3. Transformative Potential of Ethereum Treasury Companies
    Marcelo highlights that emerging Ethereum treasury firms (similar to MicroStrategy’s BTC play) could deploy $10B+ in ETH treasuries. A single such “mega whale” could inject unprecedented liquidity into DeFi—making ETH potentially more liquid than BTC, bootstrapping entire verticals (DEX liquidity, lending, insurance), and creating a flywheel where treasury strategies directly accelerate Ethereum’s adoption and price stability.

 

TOPICS

KPK, Gnosis, Gnosis Safe, Balancer, Aave, Maker, Sky, Uniswap, Morpho, Ethereum Foundation, on-chain asset management, DAO, decentralized autonomous organization, treasury management, DeFi, tokenization, ETH, Ether, stablecoin, USDC

 

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TIMESTAMPS

1’08: From Gnosis to KPK: Building the Infrastructure for On Chain Treasury Management

8’00: Playing It Safe: How KPK Built Long Term DeFi Strategies in a Risk Obsessed Market

11’50: DeFi Lending Unlocked: How KPK Assesses Risk and Builds Yield Strategies with Stablecoins and Leverage

17’11: Treasury Playbooks: Matching DeFi Investment Strategies to Risk Profiles and DAO Values

20’32: Stablecoin Farming and DAO Drama: Navigating Risk, Governance, and Community Conflicts

23’18: From Impermanent Loss to Long Term Gain: Liquidity Provision and the Case for OG DeFi Protocols

26’33: Behind the Smart Contracts: Why Human Ops and Governance Still Run On Chain Asset Management

30’11: The Rise of Ethereum Treasury Companies: How On Chain Giants Will Super

Managing $2B+ in On Chain Assets, with KPK Co-Founder Marcelo Ruiz de Olano

In this episode, Lex speaks with Ravi Adusumilli [https://www.linkedin.com/in/raviadusumilli/overlay/about-this-profile/] - President and GM of the Americas at Airwallex. Ravi and Lex discuss how Airwallex has evolved into a global financial platform by offering businesses an integrated suite of cross-border payments, treasury, and banking services. Founded in 2015, Airwallex now supports 150,000 customers, processes $130 billion in annualized volume (up 73% YoY), and projects a $1 billion revenue run rate by year-end.

The company’s success stems from its end-to-end infrastructure, homegrown payment rails, and multi-product strategy, with 80% of revenue now coming from customers using more than one product. Airwallex differentiates itself by focusing on global-first B2B use cases and building regional autonomy alongside centralized infrastructure. While not prioritizing stablecoins today, the company is exploring AI-driven financial operations and aims to reach $1 trillion in transaction volume by 2030.

 

NOTABLE DISCUSSION POINTS:

 1. Airwallex’s Infrastructure: Proprietary Global Payment Network
    Airwallex operates a proprietary global payment infrastructure that processes 95% of its $130 billion in annualized transaction volume. The company has developed its own technology and regulatory framework in partnership with over 60 banks worldwide. This approach reduces dependence on legacy systems such as SWIFT and supports greater control over transaction speed, cost, and compliance.
 2. Expansion Through Multi-Product Offering
    Airwallex has expanded its services beyond cross-border payments to include card issuance, spend management, treasury functions, and merchant acquiring. According to company data, 80% of revenue is generated from customers using multiple products. Payments now account for 70% of net revenue and are growing at three times the rate year over year.
 3. Decentralized Go-To-Market Structure
    Airwallex employs a regional management model, with General Managers responsible for performance and operations in specific geographies. This structure is supported by centralized functions such as product development, compliance, and engineering. With 1,700 employees in 26 offices, the company uses this hybrid model to manage growth and adapt to local regulatory environments across multiple regions, including Latin America and Asia-Pacific.

 

TOPICS

Airwallex, Stripe, Brex, Rippling, Shopify, Pinterest, Visa, fintech, global payments, e-commerce, cross-border transactions, paytech, embedded payments, CFO stack, stablecoins, AI

 

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TIMESTAMPS

1’02: Building Through Partnerships: The Platform Strategy Behind a $130B Fintech

7’24: Why It’s Working: Scaling B2B Payments in a Crowded Fintech Market

12’21: From Coffee Beans to Global Rails: How Cross-Border Payments Became the Wedge for Platform Expansion

19’02: Sticky by Design: How Regional Autonomy and Multi-Product Depth Drove Global Expansion

25’31: From Credibility to Scale: When Partnerships Start Driving Growth

29’33: Beyond Point Solutions: Why Global Platforms Are Replacing Fragmented Payment Stacks

34’47: Solving the CFO Stack: A Unified Approach to Global Money Movement

38’14: Resilient by Design: How Airwallex Manages Multi-Bank, Mu

Building the $130B global payments platform, with Airwallex’s Ravi Adusumilli

Lex chats with Matthew Le Merle [https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewlemerle/] - CEO of Blockchain Coinvestors, a leading blockchain and AI fund-of-funds. He reflects on the limitations of large institutions in adopting disruptive technologies and why he chose to back innovators over incumbents, using stablecoins as an example of asymmetric value creation. Le Merle explains his evolution from angel investor to institutional LP, highlighting the benefits of leveraging top-tier venture capitalists’ expertise in inefficient early-stage markets. He outlines the psychological challenges of venture investing, where failures appear early and outsized wins often take a decade, contrasting this with the faster liquidity but higher existential risk in token markets. Finally, he critiques institutional allocators for over-relying on efficient markets, under-allocating to venture despite its role in driving future value, and positions his strategy as fully committed to early-stage blockchain and AI as the highest-returning segments.

 

NOTABLE DISCUSSION POINTS:

1. Innovation Threatens Incumbents, Benefits Disruptors: Major technological shifts, from the internet to blockchain and AI, create winners and losers. Incumbents often resist disruptive change because it threatens existing revenue models, while nimble startups and tech-first companies can rapidly capture new market opportunities.

2. Venture Success Requires Navigating High Failure Rates: In early-stage investing, most portfolio companies will fail, often within the first 3–4 years. Returns are driven by a small number of outsized successes, usually via acquisitions rather than IPOs, requiring patience, resilience, and a disciplined investment strategy.

3. Inefficient Markets Offer the Greatest Asymmetric Upside: Early-stage venture and emerging technologies like blockchain and AI are inefficient markets where superior access, insight, and execution can generate returns far above those available in traditional, efficient markets like public equities or bonds.

 

TOPICS

Blockchain Coinvestors, Band of Angels, AngelList, Blockchain Capital, Pantera, Sequoia, Andreessen, BlackRock, Fidelity, Blockchain, DeFi, Decentralized Finance, Investment, Venture Capital, Angel Investment, Fund of Funds

 

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TIMESTAMPS

1’33: From Consulting to Disruption: Matthew Le Merle on Pivoting from Advising Incumbents to Backing the Innovators

9’56: From Angel Checks to Global Funds: Building One of the World’s Largest Blockchain Co-Investment Platforms

16’50: Leveraging Top Venture Funds to Capture Blockchain and AI’s Biggest Winners: Evolving from Direct Deals to an LP Strategy

24’50: The Emotional Reality of Venture Investing: Coping with Early Failures, Long Timelines, and Rare Big Wins

32’13: Early Liquidity, Higher Risk: Why Most Token Projects Fail Without Ever Delivering Software

35’20: Backing Winners in Inefficient Markets: What Makes a Venture Fund Worth Investing In

42’59: Why Institutional Portfolios Miss the Future: The Case for Shifting Capital from Efficient to Inefficient Markets

51’08: The channels used to connect with Matthew & learn more about Blockchain Coinvestors

 

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How to Invest in the best Crypto Funds, with Matthew Le Merle CEO of Blockchain Coinvestors

Lex chats with Harish Natarajan - Practice Manager, Financial Inclusion and Infrastructure, Finance, Competitiveness & Innovation at the World Bank, and Carlos Brandt - The Senior Advisor for Pix at the Central Bank of Brazil. Together they discuss the remarkable success of Pix, Brazil's real-time payment system, which now sees over 6 billion transactions per month and is used by more than 90% of the adult population and 80% of companies. Lex explores how Pix was created by the Central Bank of Brazil with strong public-private collaboration, backed by regulatory authority and supported by a co-creation model with stakeholders. Key to its adoption were a low-cost centralized infrastructure, clear branding, mandatory participation by large banks, and a robust national communication strategy. Globally, Pix is seen as a leading example of fast payment system deployment, driven by the central bank acting as a neutral coordinator and scheme owner. Lex also examines the technical architecture, built in-house by a surprisingly small team of 55–65 people, and how scalable infrastructure and extensibility have enabled rapid growth and innovation.

 

NOTABLE DISCUSSION POINTS:

 

1. Pix achieved mass adoption through public-private co-creation and legal mandate:

Pix now processes over 6 billion transactions per month, with 90% of Brazil’s adult population and 80% of businesses actively using it. Its success stems from a strategic legal mandate in 2013 granting the Central Bank regulatory and operational authority over retail payments. The Central Bank then led a co-creation process involving both public and private stakeholders through the Pix Forum, fostering alignment, inclusivity, and strong network effects.

2. A lean but powerful team built a nation-scale real-time payments system:

The Pix infrastructure was built entirely in-house by a relatively small team, 30-40 people for the technical infrastructure layer and around 25 for the payment scheme layer. It operates 24/7 with real-time settlement and uses centralized infrastructure separate from Brazil’s traditional large-value payment rails. This centralized, purpose-built architecture dramatically lowered costs and enabled rapid rollout.

3. Strategic communication and mandated participation drove adoption at scale:

The Central Bank led a national communication campaign to build trust, establish a strong brand identity, and educate the public. Simultaneously, it mandated major banks (with over 500,000 active accounts) to join Pix, triggering widespread voluntary adoption from smaller PSPs. The rollout included a restricted pilot phase and emphasized user-friendly features like QR codes and aliases to boost convenience and usage from day one.

 

TOPICS

 

Pix, Central Bank of Brazil, World Bank, Visa, Citibank, M-Pesa, Alipay, SPI, fintech, payments, PSP, API, Fast Payments, Payments Infrastructure, PayTech

 

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TIMESTAMPS

 

1’19: Building Pix from the Ground Up: Carlos Brandt on Modernizing Brazil’s Payment Infrastructure

 

3’03: Fast Payments for Financial Inclusion: Harish Natarajan on the World Bank’s Role in Modern Payment Infrastructure

 

4’29: From Cash to 5 Billion Transactions a Month: How Pix Transformed Brazil’s Payment Ecosystem Through Public-Private Collaboration

 

10’41: Why Pix Succeeded Where Others Struggled: The Power of Neutral Coordination and Public-Private Synergy

 

12’40: Inside the Pix Forum: How Brazil Built a Collaborative Process for Payment Innovation

 

15’07: Fast Payments at Scale:

How the Central Bank of Brazil built Pix, powering 6 billion monthly transactions

Lex speaks with Ali Niknam, CEO and founder of Bunq, a leading European neobank. Ali shares Bunq’s journey from its founding during the financial crisis to becoming Europe’s second-largest neobank. The conversation explores Bunq’s user-centric philosophy, innovative products, and unique organizational design. Ali discusses overcoming regulatory challenges, prioritizing cultural values, and fostering accountability within teams. The episode also examines the complexities of the European fintech landscape and Bunq’s mission to revolutionize banking by focusing on user needs and continuous improvement.

 

MENTIONED IN THE CONVERSATION

 

Topics: Bunq, ING, Revolut, Betterment, Synapse, TransIP, Fintech, banking, crypto, neobank, challenger bank, culture, Europe, VC

 

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TIMESTAMPS

 

1’09: Bunq’s Bold Mission: Ali Niknam on Reinventing Banking for the Modern User

 

6’27: Building from the Core: Why Bunq Chose the Hard Road to Reinvent Banking

 

10’08: Bootstrapped Banking: Building Bunq Without External Capital or Compromise

 

13’56: Launching the Future: Bringing Innovation to Market with Bunq’s First 45-Person Team

 

17’35: From Payments to Personalization: How Users Drove a Decade of Product Innovation

 

19’52: Designing for Eva: How Bunq Rebuilt Its Organization Around the User, Not the Org Chart

 

22’02: Beyond Titles: How Bunq’s Ownership-Driven Culture Redefines Teams, KPIs, and Hierarchy

 

28’14: Culture Over Compensation: How Bunq Attracts Mission-Aligned Talent Without Relying on Equity

 

35’06: Europe’s Tech Paradox: Why Innovation Thrives Despite Fragmentation—and What Must Change

 

39’11: The channels used to connect with Ali & learn more about Bunq

 

43’07: The channels used to connect with Edward & learn more about Zerohash 

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Building the €8 Billion neobank, with Bunq CEO Ali Niknam

 Lex chats with Edward Woodford - CEO of Zerohash. They discuss Zerohash’s growth, the rise of stablecoins, and the evolving fintech landscape. Edward explains how stablecoins now make up half of Zerohash’s volume, highlights regulatory shifts in the U.S. and abroad, and explores the distinction between crypto and stablecoins. The conversation covers usability challenges, emerging payment use cases, and the future of embedded finance, emphasizing the need for regulatory clarity and collaboration between fintechs and traditional financial institutions.

 

Notable discussion points:

 

1. Stablecoins Overtake Crypto in Volume: Stablecoins now make up over 50% of Zerohash’s volume, driven by regulatory clarity and real-world use cases like payments and treasury. Institutions prefer them for their centralized control and ease of integration.

2. Brokerage and Payments Are Converging: Zerohash sees strong demand across brokerage and payment rails, with banks and fintechs embedding stablecoin infrastructure. Global payouts, account funding, and subscriptions are key growth areas despite UX friction.

3. Regulatory Climate Is Rapidly Improving: U.S. policy has shifted from regulatory overreach to bipartisan support for stablecoin legislation. This change is unlocking institutional adoption, with banks now moving aggressively into crypto and digital assets.

 

MENTIONED IN THE CONVERSATION

 

Topics: Zerohash, MoonPay, Transak, Ramp, Stripe, BlackRock, Franklin Templeton, Hamilton Lane, Morgan Stanley, Charles Schwab, SoFi, Uniswap, fintech, web3, digital assets, blockchain, tokenization, rwas, stablecoin, crypto, regulation

 

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TIMESTAMPS

 

1’51: From Crisis to Convergence: Edward Woodford on Scaling Zerohash and the Future of Embedded Crypto Infrastructure

 

5’06: Scaling the Pie, Not Stealing Slices: Rethinking Volume, Margins, and Meaningful Growth in Digital Asset Infrastructure

 

10’02: The Great Rebrand: How Stablecoins Are Shedding the 'Crypto' Label and Reshaping Digital Finance

 

15’22: From Overreach to Opportunity: How Regulatory Pushback in the U.S. Sparked a Global Shift Toward Stablecoin Adoption

 

20’31: The Semantics of Trust: Why ‘Stablecoin’ Sells and ‘Crypto’ Scares - and Why the Framing Now Matters More Than Ever

 

22’36: Unlocking Real Utility: Why Stablecoin Payments Are Finally Poised to Scale Across Commerce and Subscriptions

 

30’50: Disrupting the Rails: How Stablecoins Are Reshaping the Power Dynamics of Global Payments

 

34’49: The New Brokerage Mandate: Why Every Platform Is Racing to Add Crypto - and What’s Unlocking the Shift

 

39’03: Rewiring Financial Infrastructure: How Stablecoins and Super Apps Are Forcing Banks to Rethink Risk and Relevance

 

43’07: The channels used to connect with Edward & learn more about Zerohash

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Growing to $45B in volume on Zerohash crypto infra, with CEO Edward Woodford

Lex chats with Yuval Rooz, CEO and co-founder of Digital Asset, about the company’s transformation from its early institutional blockchain experiments to launching the Canton Network - a purpose-built, privacy-enabled smart contract platform designed for financial markets. Rooz shares insights into why Digital Asset was inspired by Bitcoin’s financial principles rather than its technical assumptions, highlighting the importance of rethinking blockchain infrastructure rather than replicating flawed legacy models. He also unpacks the hard lessons from high-stakes projects like the Australian Stock Exchange overhaul, emphasizing why large-scale financial infrastructure must evolve incrementally to succeed. Finally, the conversation dives into Canton’s unique tokenomics, where 70% of block rewards go to the developers and users who create economic activity on the network, challenging traditional validator-centric models and aligning incentives more fairly for long-term ecosystem growth.

 

Notable discussion points:

 

1. Canton’s innovative tokenomics: Unlike Ethereum, where validators capture most of the rewards, Canton allocates 70% of block rewards to developers and applications, creating sustainable alignment.

 

2. Lessons from ASX: Rooz reflects on the failed ASX blockchain migration, advocating for iterative upgrades rather than “big bang” infrastructure transformations.

 

3. True tokenization: Rooz critiques superficial on-chain IOU models, asserting that real tokenization must place the asset’s books and records natively on-chain to unlock the benefits of DeFi and composability.

 

MENTIONED IN THE CONVERSATION

 

Topics: Digital Asset, Canton Network, DRW, ASX, Ethereum, Bitcoin, Plaid, DAML, fintech, web3, tokenization, digital assets, financial infrastructure, DeFi, onchain

 

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TIMESTAMPS

 

1’28: From Wall Street to Web3: Yuval Rooz on Founding Digital Asset and the Birth of the Canton Network

 

4’29: Rethinking Blockchain: Rejecting Ethereum’s Assumptions to Build a Better Financial Infrastructure

 

8’18: Getting Banks to Say Yes: Bridging Blockchain Innovation with Regulatory Reality

 

12’43: Blockchain at Scale: Lessons from the ASX Project and Why Incremental Innovation Beats Big Bang Deployments

 

21’27: Agile by Design: How Canton Aims to Bring Continuous Delivery to Decentralized Blockchain Networks

 

23’50: Beyond the Hype: Why Crypto Needs Pragmatism, Not Just Vision, to Integrate with Financial Institutions

 

27’08: From DAML to Canton: Building Scalable, Privacy-First Infrastructure for Real-World Finance

 

30’52: Redefining Tokenization: Real On-Chain Finance at Scale with Trillions in Assets on Canton

 

35’34: Solving the Tokenization Gap: Bridging Legacy Infrastructure with Decentralized Architecture

 

39’13: Seeding Web3 with Real Assets: Canton’s Strategy to Power DeFi with Institutional-Grade Infrastructure

 

41’33: Custom Rules, Shared Rails: How Canton Balances Decentralization with Regulatory Flexibility

 

44’30: Aligning Incentives: How Canton’s Tokenomics and Fair Launch Redefine Value Creation on Chain

 

49’35: The channels used to connect with Yuval & learn more about Digital Asset and Canton Network

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Tokenizing $3.6T of real world assets on Canton Network, with CEO Yuval Rooz

Lex chats with Stani Kulechov - founder and CEO of Aave, a leading decentralized finance (DeFi) protocol. They explore the evolution of DeFi, Aave’s growth, and its architectural shift from a peer-to-peer model to pooled liquidity. Stani reflects on the early days of DeFi, the impact of the FTX collapse, and the increasing adoption of DeFi over centralized exchanges. They discuss Aave’s strategies for attracting assets, the importance of capital efficiency, and future innovations, including the tokenization of real-world assets and the role of stablecoins.

 

Notable discussion points:

 

1. Aave Reaches $40 Billion in Net Deposits: Stani Kulechov shared that Aave has achieved a record-breaking $40 billion in net deposits and $25 billion in active liquidity, making it the largest DeFi lending protocol ever by total value locked (TVL).

 

2. DeFi’s Evolution from Peer-to-Peer to Liquidity Hubs: The conversation detailed Aave’s architectural shift from early peer-to-peer lending models to pooled liquidity and now to a hub-and-spoke model with Aave V4 — designed to balance capital efficiency and risk segregation for both native crypto and real-world assets (RWAs).

 

3. The Rise of Real-World Assets and Stablecoins in DeFi: Kulechov emphasized that tokenized real-world assets (like treasuries) and decentralized stablecoins (such as Aave's GHO) are reshaping the DeFi landscape, predicting RWAs will outgrow both stablecoins and native crypto assets in total value locked within five years.

 

MENTIONED IN THE CONVERSATION

 

Topics: Aave, Lens Protocol, GHO, Horizon, FTX, Project Guardian, AaveDAO, MakerDAO, Web3, DeFi, Lending, stablecoins, tokens, RWA, decentralized finance, capital markets, DAO, Digital Assets

 

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TIMESTAMPS

 

1’11: DeFi at $40B: How a Lending Protocol Redefined Blockchain Finance

 

9’06: From Peer-to-Peer to Liquidity Hubs: Evolving the Architecture of DeFi Lending

 

15’01: DeFi's Growth Curve: From Airdrops to Institutional Adoption After FTX

 

20’49: Scaling Safely: How a Lending Protocol Outpaced Rivals Through Capital Efficiency and Brand Trust

 

24’34: Beyond Infrastructure: Why Token Issuers Need Capital Markets, Not Just DeFi Hype

 

28’33: Building Beyond Lending: How a Stablecoin and Institutional Arm Power DeFi Profitability

 

31’33: From JPMorgan to BlackRock: How Horizon Bridges Institutions to On-Chain Finance

 

35’18: Tokenized Treasuries and the Future of DeFi: Why RWAs Will Eclipse Stablecoins by 2030

 

39’36: From Fragmentation to Focus: Why DeFi’s Future Depends on Application Layers, Not More Chains

 

41’47: The channels used to connect with Stani & learn more about Aave and Avara

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Forty Billion Reasons to Trust the Future of DeFi, with Aave Founder Stani Kulechov

 Lex chats with Avlok Kohli - the CEO of AngelList, about the company's significant evolution. Initially a platform for startups to connect with venture capitalists, AngelList has transformed into a comprehensive fintech entity encompassing private equity and cryptocurrency. Avlok discusses the strategic pivots, including the introduction of syndicates and rolling funds, that have redefined the company's business model. The episode also explores the broader implications of crowdfunding and the unique challenges in the crypto space, offering a deep dive into AngelList's impact on the financial services industry.

 

Notable discussion points:

 

1. AngelList’s Second Founding: Reinvention as a Fintech Platform: Since 2019, AngelList has transformed from a mixed-use startup platform into a focused fintech infrastructure business for fund managers. Avlok Kohli spun out the syndicates arm and built a scalable product offering that includes SPVs, venture funds, and innovative structures like Rolling Funds and Roll Up Vehicles. This pivot catalyzed explosive growth—from ~$1B in AUM in 2019 to $125B+ today—by enabling fund creation and deployment at scale.

 

2. Product Innovation as a Strategic Advantage: Instead of competing with well-capitalized incumbents like Carta on sales and marketing, AngelList focused on building category-defining products. The launch of Rolling Funds—allowing fund managers to raise publicly and continuously—was a breakout moment. It created viral word-of-mouth growth and redefined how emerging fund managers could access capital, illustrating the principle: “You can’t win by playing someone else’s game.”

 

3. AI and the Future of Private Markets Infrastructure: AngelList is embedding AI across three strategic layers: (1) Back-office automation, replacing manual workflows, (2) Customer service enhancement, enabling agents to respond to LPs with real-time data, and (3) Data reasoning products, like Fin, which analyzes anonymized fund and secondary data to deliver actionable private market insightsThis positions AngelList not only as an admin platform but as a data intelligence layer over the private capital markets.

 

MENTIONED IN THE CONVERSATION

 

Topics: Fintech, Web3, Venture, VC, Venture capital, private markets, fundraising, crowdfunding, crypto, web3, AI, Angellist, Coinlist, Carta, Gumroad

 

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TIMESTAMPS

 

1’09: AngelList Reimagined: How Avlok Kohli Transformed a Startup Directory into a Fintech Powerhouse

 

6’43: Syndicates vs. Crowdfunding: Solving the Signal Problem in Startup Investing

 

11’43: From Community to Capital: Rebuilding AngelList Through Business Model Reinvention and Rolling Fund Innovation

 

16’49: Playing a Different Game: How AngelList Scaled by Redefining the Category Through Product Innovation

 

21’59: Creating the Category: How Rolling Funds Sparked a Movement and Redefined Venture Fundraising

 

28’51: From $1 Billion to $125 Billion: How AngelList Scaled by Saying No Before Saying Yes

 

32’56: The Liquidity Mirage: Why Private Market Access Remains Elusive for Most Investors

 

37’57: AI Meets Private Markets: Automating Back Offices, Enhancing Customer Touchpoints, and Powering Intelligent Fund Infrastructure

 

42’26: The channels used to connect with Avlok & learn more about Angellist

 

 

Disclaimer here [https://www.fintechblueprint.com/disclaimer] — this newsletter does not provide investment advice and represents solely th

Inside the Platform Powering +$125B in Private Capital, with AngelList CEO Avlok Kohli

Lex chats with Jamie Burke - founder of Outlier Ventures, about the current state and future of Web3, decentralized finance, and the metaverse. Jamie highlights Outlier Ventures' impressive growth, with a portfolio of around 400 startups, and discusses successful projects like IOTA and Fetch.ai. The conversation delves into the open metaverse, emphasizing the importance of infrastructure and middleware in blending physical and digital realities. Jamie also explores the transformative role of AI in the metaverse and offers practical advice for entrepreneurs navigating this rapidly evolving landscape.

 

Notable discussion points:

 

1.The “Post-Web” Is an Intent-Led Internet: Jamie Burke outlines a shift from today’s attention-based web to an intent-driven internet, powered by AI agents, Web3 infrastructure, and DePIN. In this model, agents act on user intent, radically streamlining interactions and replacing much of today’s web interface.

 

2. Web3 Will Be Run by Machines, Not People: Burke predicts that autonomous agents—not humans—will become the primary users of blockchains, making crypto “machine money.” As a result, products, brands, and processes matter less, while incentive systems and on-chain automation take center stage.

 

3. Founders Must Embrace Systems Thinking: In the Post-Web era, survival depends on designing self-optimizing systems, not just building products. Burke stresses that token engineering, incentive design, and value flow mapping will define the next generation of durable startups.

 

MENTIONED IN THE CONVERSATION

 

Topics: Web3, decentralized finance, metaverse, Open metaverse, Post web, Outlier Ventures, IOTA, Fetch.ai, accelerator program, AI, artificial intelligence, Agentic AI, agents, Web3, post-web, digital economy, blockchain technology

 

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TIMESTAMPS

 

1’18: Outlier Ventures in 2025: From IOTA to Fetch.ai, Backing the Infrastructure Behind Intelligent Web3

 

10’24: The Open Metaverse Revisited: Outlier’s Long-Game Bet on Augmented Reality, Middleware, and AI-Driven Agents

 

26’01: FThe Post-Web Era: How AI Agents, Web3 Infrastructure, and Delegation Will Redefine the Internet

 

35’57: From Attention to Intention: How AI Agents and Web3 Are Flipping the Internet on Its Head

 

49’39: Surviving the Post-Web Paradigm: Why Founders Must Shift from Startup Thinking to Systems Design

 

57’49: The channels used to connect with Jamie & learn more about Outlier Ventures

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400 Startups Building the Post-Web Economy, with Outlier Ventures Founder Jamie Burke

Finance is being pulled apart by the forces of frontier technology. From AI, to
blockchain and DeFi, mixed reality, chatbots, neobanks, and roboadvisors — the
industry will never be the same. Here is the blueprint for navigating the shift.

Lex Sokolin

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