In this episode of the Stacked Data Podcast, we explore how modern data teams can drive real business impact by combining commercial thinking with a product mindset.

I’m joined by Ryan, a data leader at Viasat, who has built the company’s only commercially-driven data roadmap across six data teams. With experience spanning analytics engineering, data product management, and team leadership, Ryan brings a practical perspective on how to bridge the gap between technical excellence and business value.

We discuss what it really means to build a commercially-driven roadmap, why many data teams struggle to connect their work to outcomes, and the mindset shift required to become a truly commercial data professional.

We also dive into the concept of “data as a product” — what it looks like in practice, how to prioritise effectively, and how to measure success through adoption, satisfaction, and ROI. Ryan shares a real example of consolidating 200 dashboards into 40, and what that taught him about product thinking, stakeholder alignment, and delivering meaningful impact.

If you’re looking to move beyond reactive reporting and towards proactive, product-led data work, this episode is packed with practical insights.

041 - Data as a Product: How to Drive Real Business Value

In this episode of the Stacked Data Podcast, Harry sits down with Adam Sorka  from Hyper Cubed to tackle one of the biggest gaps in the industry right now:

Why so many AI projects never make it past experimentation — and what it actually takes to deliver real value.

Adam has built a reputation as a pragmatic (and often sceptical) voice in the AI space. In this conversation, he breaks down what’s really driving the current wave of AI adoption — and why much of it is still fuelled by hype, not outcomes.

They explore how to properly identify and validate high-value AI use cases before writing a single line of code, what “AI readiness” actually means beyond buzzwords, and how to think about testing, governance, and risk in production systems.

A big theme throughout is the role of humans in the loop — why removing them too early creates more problems than it solves, and how the best teams design AI systems that augment, rather than replace, decision-making.

Finally, Adam shares how to measure real impact and what it takes to scale beyond a single successful use case — turning AI from a side experiment into a meaningful business capability.

If you’re a data leader or practitioner trying to cut through the noise and build AI that actually delivers, this episode is packed with practical frameworks and hard-earned lessons.

040 - Why Most AI Projects Fail (And How to Get Them Right)

The Data Science Identity Crisis | Anurag Gangal (Spotify) on Data Roles, Analytics Engineering & AI

What does a data scientist actually do anymore?

In this episode of the Stacked Data Podcast, Harry sits down with Anurag Gangal from Spotify to unpack one of the biggest challenges in modern data: the growing confusion around data role titles.

From data scientists and analytics engineers to product analysts, machine learning engineers, and more, the data landscape has become increasingly hard to navigate. Anurag shares the story behind his framework for understanding data roles, why he built his now-popular quadrant model, and how it can help both companies and individuals make better decisions.

The "Data Scientist" identity crisis - Anurag’s Substack [https://selectstar.substack.com/p/data-scientist-identity-crisis]

They explore why so many businesses still use the title data scientist to describe completely different jobs, how that creates problems in hiring and team design, and what it means for people trying to build careers in data. The conversation also dives into generalists vs specialists, the evolution of the modern data stack, and how AI could reshape the future of analytics, data science, and self-serve data work.

Whether you’re a data leader, analytics engineer, data analyst, product analyst, machine learning engineer, or someone trying to break into data, this episode will help you better understand where the industry is heading.

In this episode, we cover:

 * Why the term data scientist has become so confusing
 * The difference between analytics engineers, data analysts, product analysts, and ML engineers
 * How to think about specialisation vs generalisation in data teams
 * The real cost of poorly defined data roles
 * How Anurag’s data role quadrant model helps bring clarity
 * How to think about your career path in data
 * How AI may change the future of data science, analytics engineering, and self-serve analytics

Guest: Anurag Gangal, Spotify
Host: Harry Gollop
Podcast: Stacked Data Podcast

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If you’re looking to hire top data talent or exploring your next move in data, feel free to reach out to the Cognify team — we’re always happy to help and chat through the market.

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039 - The Data Science Identity Crisis

What does it take to run over 1,500 experiments a year — and still maintain speed, quality, and impact?

In this episode, Harry sits down with Dmitry Zolotukhin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dimazolotukhin/overlay/about-this-profile/?miniProfileUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afs_miniProfile%3AACoAAAhItnwB4sPSrzvmZ8E27qMch_Me0dFnbEI], VP of Analytics at Flo, to unpack how one of the world’s leading health and wellness apps built a truly data-driven culture of experimentation.

They explore Flo’s journey from early-stage testing to a mature experimentation framework, the technical infrastructure behind it, and how the team coordinates hundreds of tests at once without losing focus on user experience or business value.

You’ll learn:

 * How Flo scaled experimentation from small tests to 1,500+ annual experiments
 * The tools and frameworks powering experimentation at scale
 * Strategies for balancing speed vs. quality in testing
 * How to foster a culture of learning and experimentation across teams
 * Real examples of how data-driven insights shaped Flo’s product roadmap

038 - How Flo run 1500+ experiments a year to drive product development 

On this episode of the Stacked Data Podcast, Harry Gollop sits down with Hugo Lu, co-founder of Orchestra, to tackle one of the most common debates in modern data teams: should you build your own tools or buy off-the-shelf solutions? Hugo shares his experiences on both sides of the decision, practical frameworks for evaluating cost, opportunity, and long-term value, and real-world examples of when building or buying was the right call. Whether you’re a Head of Data, an engineer, or just curious about tooling strategy, this episode provides actionable insights to help your team make smarter, strategic decisions.

037 - Build vs Buy in the Modern Data Stack: Stories, Frameworks & Pitfalls

This week, I’m joined by Timothy Chan, Head of Data at Statsig.

Tim has a fascinating background — he started his career as a scientist developing life-saving drugs before pivoting into data. He went on to become a Staff Data Scientist at Meta and now leads the data function at Statsig, one of the world’s leading experimentation platforms, recently acquired by OpenAI.

In this episode, we dive into the power of experimentation and how Meta embedded it into every aspect of product development.

We unpack:
⚙️ What great experimentation really looks like
🏗️ How to build a world-class experimentation function
💬 How data teams can use experimentation to influence business decisions
⚖️ The balance between speed, rigour, and impact
👥 Why stakeholder collaboration is the true differentiator of high-performing data teams

Tim shares brilliant insights from his time at both Meta and Statsig — including how to think about experimentation as a cultural capability, not just a technical one.

If you care about driving real business impact with data, this is a must-listen.

036 - From Meta to Statsig: Driving Business Impact Through Experimentation

Welcome back to the Stacked Data Podcast — where we explore what it really takes to build impactful data teams in the modern world.

This week’s episode is all about stepping out of the ticket queue and into the strategic driver seat.

I sat down with Adam Cassar, Director of Analytics at Wise, to explore how analytics teams can break free from the reactive reporting cycle and become genuine business partners. This conversation is packed with real-life examples, practical strategies, and hard-earned lessons from Adam’s experience leading high-performing teams.

We cover:
✅Why many analytics teams end up in a service-provider role — and how to shift that perception
✅The biggest barriers to becoming more strategic (and how to overcome them)
✅How to proactively influence business decisions (not just report on them)
✅What skills, mindsets, and relationships actually matter if you want your team to have impact

Whether you're an IC or leading a data team, this episode is for anyone who wants to stop being a dashboard factory — and start driving real change in the business.
🔁Share it with someone who’s ready to level up their data career

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035 - How to Be a Strategic Driver of the Business - Senior Director of Wise

𝐁𝐞𝐲𝐨𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐏𝐢𝐩𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞 – 𝐓𝐫𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐞 𝐈𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐨𝐟 𝐀𝐧𝐚𝐥𝐲𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐬 𝐄𝐧𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠

Analytics Engineering has become one of the most in-demand roles for modern data teams in recent years. 

The role goes far beyond just building clean data pipelines and data models, but how do we actually measure that impact?

In today’s episode of the Stacked Data Podcast, we're joined by Ross Helenius, Director of Analytics Engineering & AI Transformation Engineering at Mimecast, to unpack one of the most important (and overlooked) questions in data:

👉 What does success look like for Analytics Engineering: beyond the technical?

𝚆̲𝚎̲ ̲𝚎̲𝚡̲𝚙̲𝚕̲𝚘̲𝚛̲𝚎̲:̲

✅ The true role of Analytics Engineering in modern data teams

✅ Why measuring ROI is so hard and how  you can do this

✅ How to define and track impact beyond pipelines, models, and dashboards

✅ Practical KPIs and strategies to showcase business value

✅ Pitfalls to avoid when proving the value of your data function



Ross brings deep experience from the intersection of data, engineering, and AI, and offers actionable insights for data leaders and practitioners alike.



Whether you're leading a data team, building one, or looking to become a better AE this episode is packed with value.



034 - Beyond the pipeline - Tracking the true impact of Analytics Engineering

Digestible. Defensible. Actionable.
What does it really take to drive impact with data?

Too often, analysts are left wondering:
“Why didn’t anyone do anything with that insight?”

This week on the Stacked Data Podcast, I’m joined by Sam Marks, Director of Analytics & Business Strategy at the Boston Bruins, to explore the gap between finding insights and driving action — and how to close it.

Sam shares the Digestible, Defensible, Actionable framework he uses to turn analysis into outcomes, covering:

✅ What makes an insight digestible (and where analysts go wrong)
✅ How to make your work defensible and credible
✅ What separates an interesting insight from an actionable one
✅ How to overcome inaction from stakeholders
✅ Real-world examples of the framework in action

This one’s packed with tactical advice for any data professional tired of their work getting stuck in slide decks.

033 - Digestible, Defendable, Actionable – How to drive impact with Data

Building High-Value Data Teams and the Future of BI with Oliver Hughes, CEO of Count

In this episode of the Stacked Data Podcast, we're joined by Oliver Hughes, CEO of Count — a business intelligence platform reinventing how teams collaborate through a flexible, canvas-style interface.

Together, we explore:

 * The key principles that make data teams truly impactful
 * Why operational clarity, effective problem-solving, and reducing time to value are so critical
 * How Count's unique approach is transforming data collaboration beyond traditional dashboards
 * The future of BI and how data teams can stay ahead in a fast-evolving landscape

Whether you're leading a data team, building one, or looking for smarter ways to drive insights, this episode is packed with valuable lessons.

Tune in and discover a smarter, more collaborative future for data!

032 - The key principles behind high-value data teams 

The Stacked Data Podcast is a community for data professionals working with the modern data stack, machine learning, and AI.

In each episode, we speak with data leaders who are building and scaling analytics, data platforms, and AI capabilities inside forward-thinking organisations. We explore how modern data teams operate, the technologies they use, and the lessons learned from building impactful data and AI products.

The podcast is designed for Data Leaders, Data Engineers, Analytics Engineers, Analysts, and professionals working in Data Science, Machine Learning, or AI who want to stay close to the evolving world of modern data.

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