What if the most valuable customer acquisition channel you're ignoring is the one you’ve always written off as just a discount tool?


Agility requires not just adapting to new customer behaviors, but fundamentally re-evaluating long-held beliefs about which channels drive growth and which ones are merely a race to the bottom.
Retailers are making big moves into the cashback ecosystem.


Today, we're going to talk about the shifting economics of customer acquisition and how they are causing many brands to rethink their channel strategy. To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome, Carolina Paradas, GM, North America at ShopBack.

About Carolina Paradas

Carolina Paradas on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolina-p-693b418a/

Resources

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Shopback's Carolina Paradas on how retailers are shifting their channel strategies with cashback

For the last two decades, the primary question for marketers has been "How do we rank on Google?" What happens when the primary question becomes "How do we become the answer for an AI?"


Agility requires not just adapting to new tools like AI, but fundamentally rethinking the systems and organizational structures that support them. It’s a shift from optimizing channels to engineering a connected growth engine for the entire business.


This show is brought to you by Moburst, an award-winning digital marketing agency leading how brands succeed in the age of AI.


Moburst helps brands grow through data-driven strategies across app marketing, media buying, creative, and Answer Engine Optimization (AEO), helping you win visibility in AI-powered search and generative engines. Everything they do is built to connect brands with the right audience and drive measurable growth. Learn more at moburst.com.


Today, we're going to talk about the significant disruption AI is causing not just to marketing tactics, but to the very foundation of how customers discover and interact with brands. This isn't about a new channel to manage; it's about the emergence of a new operating system for marketing, one that demands a move from siloed activities to integrated systems, from Search Engine Optimization to Answer Engine Optimization, and a new way of thinking about the teams we build.


To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome, Gilad Bechar, CEO at Moburst.

About Gilad Bechar

Gilad Bechar is the CEO & Founder of Moburst, an award-winning digital marketing agency helping brands succeed in the age of AI. Moburst helps brands grow through data-driven strategies across app marketing, media buying, creative, and Answer Engine Optimization (AEO). Gilad brings a practical, operator-level perspective on how brands can stay visible, relevant, and competitive as marketing shifts toward AI-powered discovery and performance-driven growth.,Yes,This will be completed shortly

Gilad Bechar on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/begilad/

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Moburst: https://www.moburst.com/

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Everything they do is built to connect brands with the right audience and drive measurable growth.
Learn more at moburst.com.

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Moburst CEO Gilad Bechar on winning in the age of AI-driven discovery

If AI can now execute an entire marketing campaign from a single prompt, what is the new primary function of a marketing leader?


While agility often requires adapting to new tools, it can also require fundamentally rethinking the operating model of a marketing organization. It’s about reallocating your most valuable resource—your team’s strategic thinking—to where it can have the greatest impact.


Today, we're going to talk about the shift from AI as a tool to AI as an autonomous agent. We'll explore how these "agentic" AI systems, which can independently execute complex tasks based on strategic goals, are poised to redefine the marketing function, separating real value from hype and forcing us to reconsider the balance between human creativity and machine execution.


To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome back to the show, Jamie Domenici, CMO at Klaviyo.

About Jamie Domenici

Jamie is Chief Marketing Officer at Klaviyo, the only CRM built for consumer brands. She has served as the Chief Marketing Officer since August 2023. With more than 20 years of experience in SaaS Marketing, Jamie has become a pioneer in SMB Marketing and a champion for small businesses. Prior to Klaviyo, Jamie served as the CMO of GoTo, a provider of SaaS and cloud- based remote work tools for collaboration and IT management, and before that, she held various marketing leadership positions at Salesforce for over ten years. Jamie holds a B.A. in International Relations from California State University, Chico. Jamie lives in the San Francisco Bay Area with her husband and two daughters.

Jamie Domenici on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jdomenici/

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Klaviyo: https://www.klaviyo.com [https://www.klaviyo.com/]

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Klaviyo CMO Jamie Domenici on moving from AI as a tool to AI as an autonomous agent

What if the biggest obstacle to delivering a world-class customer experience isn't your technology or your strategy, but the very way your teams are structured and enabled to work?


Agility requires more than just rapid iteration; it demands a deep understanding of the human elements within our systems. It's about creating an internal environment that can fluidly adapt to—and even anticipate—the needs of the external customer.


Today, we're going to talk about the often-overlooked foundation of successful business transformation: the human experience. We’ll explore why the employee experience isn't just an HR initiative but a direct driver of customer outcomes, and how designing systems around the way people actually think—not just how we’re organized on a chart—is critical. We'll also get into the practical application of a human-centered lens to business processes and why so many large-scale changes fail when they don't properly connect the dots between people, processes, and technology.


To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome, Jennifer Jones, Chief Strategy & Experience Officer at RGP.

About Jennifer Jones

Jennifer Jones is Chief Strategy & Experience Officer at RGP, a global professional services firm, where she leads enterprise strategy and experience end-to-end—aligning go-to-market, customer and employee experience, and operating models to accelerate growth and retention. She is responsible for translating strategy into execution across the business, partnering across sales, delivery, finance, technology, HR, and talent to remove friction, strengthen adoption, and drive measurable outcomes.
 
Jennifer also leads global marketing and communications, shaping RGP’s market voice, positioning, and demand generation engine. Previously, she served as Chief Marketing Officer, where she unified the company’s brand, go-to-market strategy, and growth programs to support its evolution into a differentiated, execution-focused consulting firm.
 
With more than 28 years of experience, Jennifer is known for closing the gap between vision and execution. She has led large-scale transformations across brand, customer and employee experience, service design, and AI-enabled operating models—helping Fortune 500 organizations modernize in ways that drive adoption, unlock value, and deliver sustained impact. Her work is grounded in human-centered design, ensuring transformation is not only strategic, but people-focused, actionable and enduring.

Jennifer Jones on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifergardnerjones/

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RGP Chief Strategy & Experience Officer Jennifer Jones on the human experience of digital transformation

As a leader, you often spend so much time on the strategies and tactics that keep your brand growing that it’s difficult to keep up with what’s going on in the background with the platforms and the companies behind them.


That’s why I’m always glad to talk with our guest today, who is both focused on the business of CX as well as the business behind CX and the SaaS platforms driving so many customer experiences. I’m excited to talk again with our Resident Expert on the CX and MarTech platform landscape.


We talked right at the beginning of 2026 as a look back at last year. Now that we’ve had a quarter behind us in 2026, it’s time to talk about how this year is shaping up and what we can expect in the months ahead.


To help me discuss these topics, I'd like to welcome, Bill Staikos, Founder at Be Customer Led.

About Bill Staikos

Bill Staikos is a senior customer experience executive with over 20 years of leadership across financial services, consulting, and technology. He has held senior roles at American Express, Freddie Mac, JP Morgan, and BNY Mellon, where he led global initiatives to transform client and employee experiences. A former SVP at Medallia, Bill helped organizations turn insights into measurable outcomes.


Recognized as a LinkedIn Top Voice and one of the Top 50 Global CX Influencers, Bill is also the founder of the Be Customer-Led podcast and is now preparing to launch The Multimodal Experience. Known for his pragmatic, impact-driven approach, Bill advises leading brands, including Apple, Bank of America, Marriott, and T-Mobile, on connecting customer experience to business growth.

Bill Staikos on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/billstaikos/

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#860: Resident Expert: Bill Staikos on the CX landscape in 2026

With the half-life of professional skills shrinking every year, is the traditional model of corporate learning and development fundamentally broken, and what role should employers play in the new era of continuous education?


Agility requires a workforce that can adapt and acquire new skills as quickly as the market changes. This means the old models of education and professional development must be re-engineered for a world that demands continuous learning integrated with professional life.


Today, we're going to talk about the evolution of higher education, specifically how online programs are being redesigned from the ground up to meet the complex needs of working adults. We'll explore how concepts we often discuss in customer experience—like personalization and flexibility—are being applied to learning to help professionals advance their careers without putting the rest of their lives on hold.


To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome, Ruth Veloria, Chief Strategy and Customer Officer at University of Phoenix.
About Ruth Veloria

Ruth Veloria is Chief Strategy and Customer Officer at the University of Phoenix, where she leads strategic vision, customer experience innovation, and the use of student data to support progress, graduation, and career success. She joined the University in 2009 and has held roles including chief customer officer and executive dean of the Business School, with prior strategy experience at Booz Allen, BCG, and Charles Schwab. Veloria holds a bachelor’s degree in chemistry from New College at the University of Oxford and a master’s in management from the Kellogg School at Northwestern University.,Yes,This will be completed shortly

Ruth Veloria on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruthveloria/

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 #859: University of Phoenix Chief Strategy Officer Ruth Veloria on higher education and the workforce of the future

Most leaders see Marketing Ops as the team that keeps the trains running on time, essentially the plumbers of the marketing department. But what if I told you they’re actually positioned to be the architects of your company’s most durable competitive advantage?


Agility requires moving beyond the transactional nature of campaigns and technology. It demands building a durable, responsive ecosystem around your brand, one that can listen and adapt not just quarterly, but constantly.
Today, we're going to talk about how to reframe the marketing operations function from a cost center or tactical execution engine into a strategic driver of growth. And we’ll explore a powerful, and perhaps counterintuitive, way to do it: by building a genuine community, not just as a marketing channel, but as the core of your go-to-market strategy.


To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome, Audrey Harze, CMO at MarketingOps.
About Mike Rizzo

Mike Rizzo is a career marketing operations professional passionate about using a people-first approach to building scalable and efficient solutions to the challenges faced by marketing, business operations, and client success teams.
With his extensive background in marketing Mike helped build, launch, manage and optimize Mavenlink's first user community and Client Advisory Board programs.
In 2017 he also founded the growing community of MO Pros - a place where thousands of Marketing Operations Professionals connect, collaborate and help elevate the practice of Marketing Ops. He is also the co-host of the podcast called Ops Cast.
As the founder of MarketingOps.com, Mike is taking a community-led approach to building a platform purpose-built to elevate Marketing Operations Professionals.

Mike Rizzo on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aharze/

Resources

MarketingOps: https://www.marketingops.com [https://www.marketingops.com/]

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#858:  MarketingOps CEO Mike Rizzo on Marketing Operations as a strategic driver of growth

As you race to adopt AI-powered shopping experiences, are you creating a new data black box that will make your customer journey less understood, not more?


Agility requires not just the speed to adopt new channels like generative AI, but the foresight to ensure these new touchpoints don't become blind spots in your customer journey. It demands that our data strategy evolves as quickly as our customer-facing technology.


Today, we're going to talk about the hidden challenge of AI-driven commerce. As major brands roll out compelling shopping experiences on platforms like Google's Gemini, they risk creating a new data black box. When customer interactions happen inside these AI environments, the insights from those conversations can become disconnected from the overall customer journey, making it difficult to measure impact and act on what you've learned.


To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome Zack Wenthe, Director of Product Marketing & Customer Data Evangelist at Tealium. Zack, welcome to the show!


About Zack Wenthe

Zack Wenthe is a seasoned product marketing and customer data expert, currently serving as Director of Product Marketing & Customer Data Evangelist at Tealium, where he helps brands unlock the power of unified customer insights and drive meaningful engagement through data-driven strategies with the power of value-add storytelling in product marketing. He’s a prolific speaker, writer, and storyteller in the martech space, known for breaking down complex ideas into practical, revenue-focused narratives.

Zack Wenthe on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zackwenthe/

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#857: Tealium's Zack Wenthe on the hidden challenge of AI-driven commerce

When you look at your five-year strategic plan, how much of it is dedicated to defending your current market share versus actively making it obsolete?
Agility requires more than just reacting quickly to market shifts; it demands the foresight and structure to initiate those shifts yourself.


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Today, we're going to talk about the accelerating pace of change being driven by forces like artificial intelligence and digitization. These changes are creating a clear divide in the market, sorting brands into two distinct camps: the “Disruptors” and the “Disrupted.” We'll explore the patterns that separate these two groups and discuss practical frameworks for how established organizations can learn to shape the future, rather than be shaped by it.


To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome, Kaihan Krippendorff, Founder at Outthinker, and keynote speaker at CRMC, taking place June 1-3 in Frisco Texas.

About Kaihan Krippendorff

Kaihan Krippendorff is the Founder of Outthinker, a global think-tank of chief strategy, growth, transformation, and innovation officers shaping the future of business. He has been recognized by Thinkers50 and Global Gurus as one of the world’s top 20 business thinkers. A sought-after keynote speaker and strategic advisor, Kaihan works with CXOs from the world’s most admired companies, helping them to drive transformation, reduce risk, and chart their path to long-term growth and success.

Kaihan Krippendorff on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaihankrippendorff/

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Outthinker: https://kaihan.net/

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#856: CRMC Keynote Speaker Kaihan Krippendorff on making sure your brand is a disruptor not disrupted

What's the bigger blind spot for most brands’ digital experience: knowing that a customer is struggling, or understanding why and being able to help them in that exact moment? Agility requires not just identifying customer friction quickly, but having the tools to resolve it in the moment. It’s about shortening the gap between insight and action to create better experiences, faster.
Today, we're going to talk about a strategic evolution in digital experience management: moving beyond passively observing user behavior to actively intervening and guiding users toward success, directly within the product. We’ll explore how this shift is being accelerated by strategic acquisitions and how it empowers product, marketing, and CX teams to solve problems in real time.
To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome, Jason Wolf, President at Fullstory.

About Jason Wolf

Jason Wolf is an accomplished technology executive with over two decades of experience driving strategic growth and operational excellence across the technology sector. As President of Fullstory, Jason leads sales, customer success, support, professional services, partnerships, and revenue operations.
Before joining Fullstory, Wolf served as Ping Identity’s Chief Revenue Officer, leading an international team that cemented the company’s position in intelligent identity solutions that make digital experiences secure and seamless. Preceding his time at Ping Identity, Wolf spent over 15 years at SAP, where he held several executive positions, ultimately culminating in his role as CRO, overseeing the business's spending management and network line. His career also includes valuable experiences at Pfizer Pharmaceuticals and as a consultant for Ernst and Young.

Jason Wolf on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-wolf-ismatsap/

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Fullstory: https://www.fullstory.com [https://www.fullstory.com/]

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#855: Fullstory President Jason Wolf on moving from observation to active assisting digital customers

Agile brands understand that customer experience, employee experience, and digital transformation all combine to form brand experience. The Agile Brand is hosted by Greg Kihlström, entrepreneur, advisor, speaker, and best-selling author. It features leaders of top organizations around the world and provides a fresh perspective on the continually evolving dynamic between brands and the audiences they serve.

The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlstrom

Welcome to the Innovation Economy podcast, where we look at the factors that drive business growth, including how people, processes, platforms, and places work together to create the future of work.

The Innovation Economy

From the creators and host of the award-winning The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlström podcast, comes B2B Agility, a podcast focused on how B2B marketers and the brands they represent become category leaders and drive optimal results.

The show looks at B2B success in a variety of ways, all with a focus on the intersection of sales, marketing & technology. Guests will represent brands, consultancies, and platforms that enable B2B marketers to do their best work.

B2B Agility with Greg Kihlström

According to a Bain Consulting study, 80% of CEO’s believe their companies deliver a superior customer experience but only 8% of their customers agree. I talk to guests with a wide range of expertise, who share meaningful insights and wisdom to help you close that gap.  We give you practical tips, proven frameworks, and share ways to help you delight YOUR customers.

Delighted Customers with Mark Slatin

The Composable Roadmap isn’t just a listen; it’s a journey. It challenges you to rethink how you view your organizational capabilities and equips you with the foresight to build not just for today, but for a future that is perpetually just around the corner. For anyone serious about making agility a core competency of their organization, this podcast s your starting point.

The Composable Roadmap

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