In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen and Hayley Spira-Bauer explore the transformative potential of AI, media literacy, and personalized learning in reshaping education. The lively conversation discusses how generative AI can reduce teacher workloads, foster high-agency classrooms, and create opportunities for meaningful human connections. The conversation also dives into the importance of media literacy as a core skill for navigating today’s digital landscape, empowering students to critically evaluate information and thrive in a rapidly evolving world. Tune in to discover actionable insights on building innovative, student-centered learning ecosystems and preparing learners for the future.

Outline
 * (00:00) Introduction and Guest Introduction
 * (01:50) AI's Impact on Teacher Workload
 * (03:41) Increasing Human Connection and Learning Ecosystems
 * (10:23) Reimagining Cross-Curricular Teaching
 * (14:27) Student Agency and Self-Directed Learning
 * (31:49) The Role of Content Knowledge and Skills

Links
 * Watch the full video here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ez5IyQYFjE]
 * Read the full blog here [https://www.gettingsmart.com/podcast/hayley-spira-bauer-on-revolutionizing-personalized-learning/]
 * Hayley Spira-Bauer Website [https://www.hayleyspirabauer.com/]
 * LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/hayley-spira-bauer/]
 * Fullmind [https://www.fullmindlearning.com/]
 * Learning Can't Wait Podcast [https://podcast.learningcantwait.com/]

 

How Can AI and Media Literacy Revolutionize Personalized Learning? | Hayley Spira-Bauer

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen and Mason Pashia explore key topics shaping education today, from the varying start dates of schools across the U.S. to the global progress on Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). They dive into data on teacher shortages, discussing challenges with retention and exploring innovative solutions like rethinking educator models. The conversation also touches on the neuroscience of adolescent identity formation, emphasizing the importance of creating opportunities for healthy risk-taking and personal growth in schools. Tune in to hear insights on how schools can address current challenges while fostering connection, curiosity, and purpose among learners.

Outline
 * (00:00) Introduction and Agenda
 * (04:02) Global Goals and School Meals Progress
 * (07:40) Public School Perception Survey Results
 * (12:48) Teacher Shortage Data and Analysis
 * (17:36) Rethinking Teacher Models
 * (27:28) Identity Formation and Adolescent Development
 * (37:23) Human Expression and Connection
 * (42:47) What's That Song?

Links
 * Watch the full video here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ1thjNvv1s]
 * Read the full blog here [https://www.gettingsmart.com/podcast/catching-up-school-start-dates-teacher-shortages-and-identity-in-education/]
 * When Do Kids Go Back to School? [https://www.weareteachers.com/when-do-kids-go-back-to-school/]
 * Exclusive Poll: As Support for Schools Plummets, Americans Resist Closing Education Department [https://www.the74million.org/article/exclusive-poll-as-support-for-schools-plummets-americans-resist-closing-education-department/?utm_source=The%2074%20Million%20Newsletter&utm_campaign=1ad362dbb2-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2022_07_27_07_47_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_077b986842-1ad362dbb2-176993376]
 * Reading for Fun: Student Experiences [https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/ltt/reading/student-experiences/?age=13#reading-for-fun]
 * How an Indiana District Puts a Premium on Teacher Autonomy [https://www.k12dive.com/news/how-indiana-district-puts-premium-on-teacher-autonomy/758915/]
 * Overview of Teacher Shortages [https://learningpolicyinstitute.org/product/overview-teacher-shortages-2025-factsheet]
 * How Can We Keep Teachers Teaching? [https://www.gse.harvard.edu/ideas/education-now/25/01/how-can-we-keep-teachers-teaching]
 * State of the American Teacher Survey [https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA1108-13.html]
 * The Teaching Model That’s Keeping Educators in Schools [https://www.ascd.org/el/articles/the-teaching-model-thats-keeping-educators-in-schools]
 * The Great Simplification Podcast: Taylor Guthrie [https://www.thegreatsimplification.com/episode/191-taylor-guthrie]
 * Sand Talk: Indigenous T [https://www.amazon.com/Sand-Talk-Indigenous-Thinking-World/dp/0062975641]

Catching Up! | School Start Dates, Teacher Shortages, and Identity in Education

Join us on the latest episode of the Getting Smart Podcast as Rebecca Midles sits down with Dr. Dave Richards, Executive Director of the Future Learning Council. Together, they explore how Michigan’s coalition of school districts and ISDs is driving statewide transformation through personalized learning and competency-based education. Discover how member-driven networks are fostering collaboration, scaling innovation, and creating flexible, learner-centered systems. From micro-schools to professional development tools, this episode dives deep into the future of education. Don’t miss this inspiring conversation about empowering communities and reimagining learning for all students!

Outline



 * (00:12) Introduction and Podcast Overview
 * (04:14) Meeting Dave Richards
 * (08:28) Building the Future Learning Council
 * (16:24) Supporting Rural Schools
 * (20:10) Professional Development Resources
 * (23:59) Future Vision and Innovation

Links



 * Watch the full video here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFE4RDn73WA]
 * Read the full blog here [https://www.gettingsmart.com/podcast/dr-dave-richards-on/]
 * LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/drdavidrichards/]
 * Future Of Learning Council [https://futureoflearningcouncil.org/]
 * Michigan Virtual [https://michiganvirtual.org/]

How is Michigan Leading State-Wide Transformation and Innovation? | Dr. Dave Richards

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen is joined by Kristen Burrus and Michael Stone from Chattanooga to discuss how fab labs and innovative learning ecosystems are transforming STEM education. They explore how STEM School Chattanooga and the Volkswagen eLab Network are integrating project-based learning, credentialing, and essential skill-building to create meaningful pathways for students. Learn how these efforts are bridging the gap between education and workforce readiness, offering students functional solutions to real-world challenges.



Outline



 * (00:00) Introduction and Podcast Overview
 * (03:16) Memorable Learning Experiences
 * (07:19) Chattanooga's STEM School Journey
 * (19:17) Leveraging Labs for Essential Skills
 * (20:34) Certification Process and Success Stories
 * (25:37) Building Fab Folio: From Google Forms to AI Integration
 * (29:27) Impact and Future of Fab Folio

Links



 * Watch the full video here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PctTY8oFs_M]
 * Read the full blog here [https://www.gettingsmart.com/podcast/michael-stone-kristen-burrus-on-bridging-learning-to-careers/]
 * Fab Labs Network [https://www.fablabs.io/]
 * Michael Stone - LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-stone-8704935b/]
 * Kristin Burrus - FabLearn Fellow [https://fellows.fablearn.org/2020fellows/kristin-burrus/]
 * FabLearn Fellows Program [https://fellows.fablearn.org/]
 * Volkswagen eLab Network [https://www.vwelab.org/]

How Are Fab Labs Transforming Education and Career Pathways? | Michael Stone & Kristen Burrus

Explore the fascinating intersection of poetry, art, and identity on this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast featuring Mason Pashia. Mason discusses his debut book, Kestrel and Other Songs, and dives deep into the creative process, the power of words, and the ways poetry invites us to see the world differently. From his inspirations like Robert Macfarlane to the influence of place and personal experiences, Mason shares insights that connect creativity with education, identity, and community. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that celebrates storytelling, imagination, and the transformative role of art in shaping how we view and engage with the world. Get your copy now! [https://checkout.square.site/merchant/MLZKA5CRXRART/checkout/6AH2SFLLJWGZSOKIO3EJ5335]



Outline



 * (00:00) Introduction to Kestrel
 * (02:32) The Art of Poetry
 * (12:00) Writing from a Place
 * (15:20) Art and Education
 * (21:45) Futures Thinking and Abundance
 * (25:44) Closing Thoughts and Reflections

Links



 * Watch the full video here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCxGbzstX4A]
 * Read the full blog here [https://www.gettingsmart.com/podcast/mason-pashia-on-art-pathways-and-kestral/]
 * Into Wind [https://intowind.substack.com/]
 * Buy Kestrel [https://checkout.square.site/merchant/MLZKA5CRXRART/checkout/6AH2SFLLJWGZSOKIO3EJ5335]
 * Landmarks by Robert Macfarlane [https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23597544-landmarks]

How Do Words, Place, and Creativity Shape Who We Become? | Mason Pashia

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark sits down with Casey Evans, Associate Dean for Undergraduate Programs at American University's Kogod School of Business, to explore how AI is revolutionizing specifically business education. From integrating AI literacy across a fully redesigned curriculum to emphasizing professionalism and communication skills tailored for Gen Z, Casey shares how her team is preparing students for the future of work. Discover innovative approaches like interdisciplinary first-year courses, AI-infused learning paths, and the launch of new programs like the AI and Business Analytics major. Tune in to learn how the Kogod School is leading the charge in equipping students with both the technical and human skills needed to thrive in a rapidly evolving workforce.



Outline



 * (00:00) Introduction to AI in Business Education
 * (04:52) Integrating AI and Professional Skills
 * (09:14) Fostering Professionalism and Communication
 * (12:27) AI Literacy Across All Majors
 * (16:13) Entrepreneurship and Business Education
 * (22:37) Conclusion and Acknowledgements

Links



 * Watch the full video here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI0Iw2xCgmE]
 * Read the full blog here [https://www.gettingsmart.com/podcast/casey-evans-on-ais-impact-on-buisiness-education/]
 * Casey Evans LinkedIn Profile [https://www.linkedin.com/in/casey-evans-67268a18/]
 * American University Website [https://www.american.edu/]
 * Kogod School of Business Website [https://kogod.american.edu/]
 * Business Analytics and AI Program [https://kogod.american.edu/programs-admissions/masters/analytics-and-ai]

How is AI Transforming the Way We Teach Business Education? | Casey Evans

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark dives into the intersection of education and workforce innovation with Kerry McKittrick, Co-Director of Harvard's Project on Workforce. Together, they explore the evolving job market in the AI era, discussing challenges like the "AI job apocalypse" and the importance of creating agile pathways to economic mobility. Kerry highlights the critical role of work-based learning, industry partnerships, and personalized career navigation to prepare learners for a complex and dynamic workforce. Tune in to hear about the future of work, education's response, and how regional and adaptive pathways can create equitable opportunities for all.



Outline



 * (00:00) Introduction: AI's Impact on Jobs
 * (02:27) Pathways to Economic Mobility
 * (04:12) Current Job Market Challenges
 * (09:05) Education's Response to Workforce Changes
 * (14:21) Governors' Role in Workforce Development
 * (24:58) Conclusion and Future Work

Links



 * Watch the full video here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxUZE1YMUf4]
 * Read the full blog here [https://www.gettingsmart.com/podcast/karry-mckattrick-on-pathways-in-a-job-apocalypse/]
 * Kerry McKittrick | LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerry-mckittrick/]
 * Bloomberg Philanthropies CTE Initiative [https://www.bloomberg.org/]
 * Harvard Project on Workforce [https://www.pw.hks.harvard.edu/]

How might we build pathways for economic mobility? | Kerry McKittrick

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen and Mason Pashia explore the intersection of education innovation, policy updates, and emerging technologies. From the role of AI in fostering human flourishing to the potential of CTE centers and ISDs as innovation hubs, they dive into transformative ideas reshaping education. The discussion also delves into ethical considerations for AI, federal funding impacts on schools, and the power of decentralized networks to accelerate change. Tune in for insights on how education marketplaces and collaborative ecosystems can create future-ready learning environments.

Outline



 * (00:00) Introduction and Catching Up
 * (03:20) Scholarship Granting Organizations and Education Marketplaces
 * (08:34) Innovative Education Models and Networks
 * (22:49) Ethical Considerations in AI
 * (28:45) AI in Education and Dependency Concerns
 * (33:24) Human Expression and Storytelling
 * (38:08) What's That Song?

Links



 * Watch the full video here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSZsaYyj9OY]
 * Read the full blog here [https://www.gettingsmart.com/podcast/catching-up-models-for-scaling-innovation-and-what-ai-knows-about-human-flourishing/]
 * Free pre-K, kindergarten expanded under new law signed by governor (New Jersey Monitor) [https://newjerseymonitor.com/2025/07/11/free-pre-k-kindergarten-expanded-under-new-law-signed-by-governor/]
 * School choice causes confusion for families. Can edtech companies help? (EdSurge) [https://www.edsurge.com/news/2025-07-11-school-choice-causes-confusion-for-families-can-edtech-companies-help?utm_source=edsheet.whiteboardadvisors.com&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=the-edsheet-vol-16&_bhlid=ec4114a7f63823bb3571359afed2eb5beeaf60b6]
 * CTE in 2025: The evolving pathway to opportunity in a tech-driven world (Strategos Group) [https://www.strategosgroup.com/cte-in-2025-the-evolving-pathway-to-opportunity-in-a-tech-driven-world]
 * Regional Education Agencies: The Critical Link Between the State and the Classroom (SISEP) [https://sisep.fpg.unc.edu/blog/regional-education-agencies-the-critical-link-between-the-state-and-the-classroom/]
 * ESA State-by-State Report – March 2021 (WAESD) [https://www.waesd.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/AESA.ESA-State-by-State-Report-March-2021.pdf]
 * EducationCounsel Policy Brief PDF [https://educationcounsel.com/storage/SSB3SAiD1iKmxg2pi5u1DsTmcqHDyVFb73PhWHig.pdf]
 * The Flourishing Hub – Research (Gloo) [https://gloo.com/flourishing-hub/research]
 * Google Drive Document (PDF or File Link) [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XRMG_ISSzLxR4v34O_6XrcEmH6GuEtib/view]
 * Chat GBT Study Mode [https://substack.com/redirect/3b6ff767-2876-49ac-91ab-f94a4ff19e49?j=eyJ1Ijoib3hqMzAifQ.I806bU8z2MEA73hYspNl4fEr971JNqRJ5HtEYWfjUP0]
 * Google NotebookLM Video Overviews & Studio Upgrades [https://blog.google/technology/google-labs/notebooklm-video-overviews-studio-upgrades]
 * National Center for Biotechnology Information (NCBI) Article [https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6334070/]

Catching Up! | Models for Scaling Innovation and What AI Knows About Human Flourishing

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, host Shawnee Caruthers explores the transformative power of Career Pathways Academy at iPark 87 with a dynamic panel of guests: Dr. Jonah Schenker (Ulster BOCES), John Boolukos (Archtop Fiber), and students Cameren Thibault-Edmonds and Natalie Winrow. Together, they discuss how place-based education, industry collaboration, and learner-centered design can open doors to opportunity, purpose, and belonging. From redefining Career and Technical Education (CTE) to fostering student confidence and self-direction, this episode highlights how intentional ecosystem building can create lasting community impact and prepare students to design the future.

 

Outline



 * (00:00) Introduction to the Getting Smart Podcast
 * (02:16) The Heart of Ulster BOCES: A Learner-Centered Vision
 * (07:18) Describing the Community and Pathways
 * (10:49) Industry Partnership: A New Era of Collaboration
 * (24:49) The Role of Advanced Manufacturing Pathways
 * (28:50) Workplace Learning Challenges: Real-World Experience
 * (33:18) Building a Sustainable Ecosystem for Education and Industry
 * (40:02) Closing Thoughts and Future Possibilities

Links



 * Watch the full video here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2m1fQ2LvL8]
 * Read the full blog [https://www.gettingsmart.com/podcast/jonah-schenker-on-learning-at-p-tech/]
 * iPark 87 [https://www.ipark87.com/]
 * Dr. Jonah Schenker (LinkedIn) [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonah-linker-732b78297/]
 * John Boolukos (LinkedIn) [https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnboolukos/]
 * Ulster BOCES [https://www.ulsterboces.org/]
 * Archtop Fiber [https://shop.archtopfiber.com/?utm_term=archtop%20fiber%20kingston%20ny&utm_campaign=Brand_ArchtopFiber&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=5729690366&hsa_cam=22793695163&hsa_grp=186190547447&hsa_ad=763775123974&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-2368186709207&hsa_kw=archtop%20fiber%20kingston%20ny&hsa_mt=b&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22793695163&gbraid=0AAAAAp51MZig-0Mm1IS3wxfG2zAZzzwfA&gclid=Cj0KCQjw18bEBhCBARIsAKuAFEb0ypRctl-k2REbxdIjeS6lRG-n9pMED4WpHm1CLpYjmiNZohCAnMQaAie6EALw_wcB]
 * Kingston City School District [https://www.kingstoncityschools.org/]

How Can Place-Based Career Pathways Build Thriving Ecosystems? | Jonah Schenker

In this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark dives into the AI revolution in corporate learning with special guest Josh Bersin. Together, they explore the transformative potential of AI-powered tools like the Galileo HR Agent, which are reshaping talent development, HR systems, and learning and development (L&D). Discover how dynamic content, AI tutors, and virtual agents are creating “super workers” and revolutionizing workplace learning. Tune in to learn how these innovations are not just about efficiency but also about empowering humans to thrive in the workforce of the future.

Outline



 * (00:00) Introduction to AI Revolution in Corporate Learning
 * (05:35) Introducing Galileo: The AI HR Agent
 * (08:04) AI in Education: Opportunities and Challenges
 * (10:04) Revolutionizing Learning and Development with AI
 * (15:12) The Future of Corporate Training
 * (20:36) Practical Steps for Implementing AI in Education
 * (25:26) Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Links



 * Watch the full video here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIA79gdLIDU]
 * Read the full blog here [https://www.gettingsmart.com/podcast/josh-bersin-on-dynamic-learning-content/]
 * Linked In [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bersin/]
 * Does AI Stunt Learning? In Some Cases Yes. [https://www.newcartographies.com/p/the-myth-of-automated-learning]
 * Josh Bersin Academy [https://bersinacademy.com/?__hstc=238407455.55611f17a31750c0238f2d27e4ae2c49.1753804238718.1753804238718.1753804238718.1&__hssc=238407455.1.1753804238718&__hsfp=2246036812]
 * Galileo Learn [https://getgalileo.ai/learn]

How is AI reshaping HR and Learning and Development? | Josh Bersin on Galileo

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