In this episode, I talk with Raymond DiGiuseppe, Professor of Psychology at St. John’s University and Director of Professional Education at the Albert Ellis Institute. Professor DiGiuseppe is a renowned figure in the field of cognitive-behavioral therapy, particularly Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy (REBT). He’s also done extensive work on anger. This is a special episode in which we take a deep dive into the Stoic anger management strategies described in the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius. How valuable are these ancient strategies when viewed from the perspective of modern evidence-based psychotherapy.

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Highlights

* The Stoic theory of anger as a “desire for revenge”

* Avoid mind-reading: “[When getting offended:] remember that you can’t be sure that they are doing wrong, because many actions serve some other purpose. Generally speaking, a great deal of experience is needed before one can confidently express an opinion about what someone else is doing.”

* Consider the whole character: “Remember how they behave while eating, while reclining on their couches, and so on, and most importantly how their beliefs leave them no choice, and how they pride themselves on what they do.”

* Attribute actions to ignorance rather than malice: “For no soul is voluntarily deprived of the truth and by the same token no soul is voluntarily deprived of the ability to [judge the worth of things properly]. Indeed, people don’t like to be called unjust, discourteous, and avaricious, or, in general, to be thought of as someone likely to wrong their neighbors.”

* Contemplate impermanence: “When you’re too angry or impatient, remember that human life is fleeting and before long all of us will have been laid to rest.”

* Cognitive distancing: “Remember that it is not people’s actions that disturb us (because their actions are [their own business]), but our opinions of their actions. At any rate, eliminate the judgment that they’re doing something hurtful, and be willing to let go of it, and anger comes to an end.”

* Anger does us more harm than the things we’re angry about: “Remember that we suffer more from getting angry and upset about such things than we do from the things themselves.”

* Kindness and other virtues can replace anger: “Remember that kindness is unconquerable if it’s genuine, not phony or feigned. After all, what can even the most abusive person in the world do to you if you keep on being kind to him and, if the opportunity arises, gently offer him advice and take the time to show him the error of his ways right when he’s trying to do you harm?”

* Recognize your own flaws: “Remember that you yourself often do wrong and are no better than them. Even if you refrain from certain kinds of transgressions, you still have the capacity to commit them.”

* Do not demand perfection from others: “[And you can accept a tenth gift, from Apollo, the Leader of the Muses:] the proposition that it’s insanity to expect flawed men never to do wrong, because that would be desiring the impossible..”

* Remember, nature gave you the potential to overcome anger and conflict: “First, remember the various kinds of relationship I have with [others]: we were born to help one another.”

* Are there other relevant attitudes that Marcus Aurelius doesn’t mention?

Links

* Profile at St John’s University [https://www.stjohns.edu/academics/faculty/raymond-digiuseppe]

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Let’s Compare Marcus Aurelius to Modern Psychotherapy

In this episode, I talk with Raymond DiGiuseppe, Professor of Psychology at St. John’s University and Director of Professional Education at the Albert Ellis Institute. Professor DiGiuseppe is a renowned figure in the field of cognitive-behavioral therapy, particularly Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy (REBT).  He’s also done extensive work on anger. Today’s something of a special episode because we’ll be discussing the Stoic anger management strategies described in the Meditations of Marcus Aurelius.  How valuable are these ancient strategies when viewed from the perspective of modern evidence-based psychotherapy.

Donald speaks with Matthew Gindin, writer, editor, and former Buddhist monk. We talk about Buddhist teachings on anger and the parallels between Buddhist and Stoic contemplative meditation practices.

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Meditation and Anger in Stoicism and Buddhism

Donald speaks with Matthew Gindin, writer, editor, and former Buddhist monk.  We talk about Buddhist teachings on anger and the parallels between Buddhist and Stoic contemplative meditation practices. 

In this episode, I chat with Charif Ahmed of Study the Greats and Become Greater [https://open.spotify.com/show/4Rd4FkQFa3tiheM5hNsoYX?si=e0c9cbdf89d84741&nd=1&dlsi=a10182e768ee412a#loginhttps://open.spotify.com/show/4Rd4FkQFa3tiheM5hNsoYX?si=e0c9cbdf89d84741&nd=1&dlsi=a10182e768ee412a#login], about the Stoic approach to anger management found in Seneca’s On Anger.

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How to Control your Anger According to Seneca

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Is Anger an Issue?

In this episode, I chat with Windy Dryden. Windy is Emeritus Professor of Psychotherapeutic Studies at Goldsmiths in the University of London. He has been working in the field of psychotherapy since 1975, and was one of the first people in Britain to be trained in Cognitive Behavior Therapy (CBT). He learned from pioneers such as Albert Ellis, Aaron T. Beck and Arnold Lazarus, among others. He is a very influential figure in the field himself, best-known as the UK’s leading expert on Rational-Emotive Behavior Therapy (REBT). In a career spanning almost half a century, he has worked with thousands of clients, trained countless students, and written or edited 285 books on psychotherapy.

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Highlights

* What was different when you first began studying psychotherapy in the 1970s?

* Do you think anything was done better in the past?)

* In a nutshell, what is Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy?

* What the relationship is between REBT and CBT.

* What is single-session therapy?

* What information do you need to get from the client to make this approach work?

* Do you ask clients to do preparatory work before the session or homework afterwards?

* How can REBT help with anger?

* How do we distinguish healthy from unhealthy anger?

* What’s the simplest bit of good advice, in your view, that could be given to people struggling with anger?

Links

* Website: windydryden.com [https://www.windydryden.com/]

* Amazon Author Profile [https://www.amazon.com/stores/Windy-Dryden/author/B000APOJ5C]

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REBT, Single Session Therapy, and Anger

Thanks to Jon Brooks [https://substack.com/profile/15158486-jon-brooks] for remastering my audio recording of the View from Above, a guided Stoic meditation exercise.

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Meditation: The View from Above

Listen to my conversation with Windy Dryden, author of 10 Steps to Positive Living

In this episode, I chat with Windy Dryden.  Windy is Emeritus Professor of Psychotherapeutic Studies at Goldsmiths in the University of London.  He has been working in the field of psychotherapy since 1975, and was one of the first people in Britain to be trained in Cognitive Behaviour Therapy (or “CBT”).  He learned from pioneers such as Albert Ellis, Aaron T. Beck and Arnold Lazarus, among others.  He is a very influential figure in the field himself, best-known as the UK’s leading expert on Rational-Emotive Behaviour Therapy (or “REBT”).  In a career spanning almost half a century, he has worked with thousands of clients, trained countless students, and written or edited 285 books on psychotherapy.  



In this episode, I chat with Chuck Garcia, the founder of Climb Leadership International. Chuck coaches executives of Fortune 500 companies on public speaking and emotional intelligence. He is an Adjunct Professor in Columbia University’s Graduate School of Engineering and teaches in their professional development and leadership program. Chuck is also a passionate mountaineer. He is the author of the book A Climb to the Top: Communication & Leadership Tactics to Take Your Career to New Heights, and more recently, his latest book, The Moment That Defines Your Life: Integrating Emotional Intelligence and Stoicism when your Life, Career, and Family are on the Line.

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Highlights

* How did you first become interested in Stoicism?

* What misconceptions do you think people might have about Stoicism?

* Why do you think Stoicism is important today?

* What’s your book The Moment that Defines your Life about?

* What is a moment that defines your life?

* Are there any connections, for you, between Stoicism and mountaineering?

* What aspects of Stoicism do you think are most relevant to executive coaching?

* How do you see the relationship between Stoicism and emotional intelligence

* How do you think Stoicism might help people to avoid getting so angry?

* What’s a good way for people to begin learning about Stoicism and applying it in their life?

Links

* Website: https://chuckgarcia.com/

* A Climb to the Top [https://a.co/d/9cHTojs]

* The Moment that Defines your Life [https://a.co/d/74LPTyp]

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Stoicism and The Moment that Defines your Life

Donald Robertson, the author of "How to Think Like a Roman Emperor", and a cognitive-behavioral therapist, talks about how to apply Stoicism in the modern world, discussing philosophy, psychology and self-improvement with guests from all walks of life. Available on Google and Apple podcasts.

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