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What happens when you mix Philly basketball angst, touring-musician coffee rituals, and the creative spirit of The War on Drugs?
In this episode, bassist Dave Hartley dives into all of it — from Joel Embiid’s emotional truth to the cultural roots of Drugcember to Remember, to how he balances his band life with his solo project, Nightlands.

We kick things off with coffee talk — pour-overs, strange co-ferment experiments, and why musicians obsess over brewing rituals while touring the world. 

And of course… we go deep on the Sixers, the emotional rollercoaster of Philly fandom, the youth movement, Embiid’s complicated greatness, OKC’s rise, the Eastern Conference chaos, and what it means to root for a team that is equal parts hope and heartbreak.

If you love basketball, music culture, Philly stories, and the creative heartbeat behind The War on Drugs, this conversation is for you.

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🔥 Topics Covered
 • Dave’s coffee routine on and off tour
 • Co-ferment coffee experiments & flavor debates
 • The origin and purpose of Drugcember to Remember
 • The War on Drugs’ deep ties to Philadelphia
 • How Dave balances band life with Nightlands
 • Philly fandom: hope, humor, and heartbreak
 • The Sixers’ young core vs. their aging stars
 • OKC’s rise and how it changes the NBA landscape
 • Music recommendations for winter
 • Holiday traditions, gratitude, and creative renewal

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Johnny Brenda’s – Philadelphia Venue
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Cat & Cloud Coffee
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Okonski - Entrance Music https://okonski.bandcamp.com/album/entrance-music

Beach Boys Christmas Album https://shop.thebeachboys.com/products/the-beach-boys-christmas-album-vinyl?srsltid=AfmBOoqWgxvzg4qBqCx3n3Sg9tktHz3Ax-MzQLl5QYOpN2DWEwLr5GK7

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76ers Fandom, NBA Chaos & Creative Culture w/ Dave Hartley

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In this episode, I retell my conversation with Jared Truby one that I  lost to a recording error but the ideas, the flavors, and the lessons were too good to let disappear. So here it is: a narrative reconstruction of everything we discussed, from experimental ferments to Steph Curry’s gravitational genius, from culture-building to trend-chasing, and the art of staying relevant in your craft.

☕ Part 1 — The Cup That Started It All

Jared talks about tasting every roast weekly, why relationships define Cat & Cloud, and the rise of “pink champagne” ferments reshaping flavor boundaries.

🏀 Part 2 — NBA Trends & the Warriors’ Identity Crisis

Scoring is at a 60-year high. The Warriors once led the revolution… but can they evolve again? We talk Warriors, Thunder, and how trendsetters become time capsules unless they reinvent.

🔥 Part 3 — Jimmy Butler’s Big Face Coffee

A San Francisco pop-up becomes a case study in branding, intentionality, and culture — and why Jimmy Butler’s coffee obsession mirrors his evolution into a Warrior.

💛 Part 4 — Culture, Comfort & Cracks in the Foundation

Cat & Cloud and the Warriors share one thing: intentional culture. But as the Draymond–Poole incident showed, culture must be maintained daily.

🌟 Part 5 — Kuminga, Growth, & What Mastery Really Requires

Talent vs. fit. Potential vs. patience. Coffee apprentices vs. young NBA stars. Why growth is equal parts confidence and humility.

🖼️ Part 6 — The Western Conference Canvas

Jokić’s historic dominance, Wembanyama’s creativity window, and whether the Warriors are No. 3 in the West… if health and chemistry hold.

👟 Part 7 — Shoes, Identity & One Final Blend

Curry traction stories, Jimmy Butler’s JB4s, and Jared comparing Steph to a rare Panamanian green-tip Gesha — elegant, balanced, and endlessly surprising.

Whether in roasting beans or running an offense, the art is in the blend — mastery, timing, culture, and curiosity.

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From Coffee Culture to the Golden State Warriors: Mastery, Trends & the Art of the Blend

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In this episode of Iconic Seasons, we rewind the VHS tape and drop into the humid heart of Bushwick to explore the golden era of streetball. From Anthony “Half Man, Half Amazing” Heyward to the chaotic genius of the AND1 Mixtape Tour, host [Your Name] unpacks what made summer basketball sacred—and why today’s game feels like it’s missing something deeper.

With shoutouts to Rafer Alston, Rucker Park, hip-hop-infused blacktop culture, and the raw joy of unfiltered basketball, this episode is a love letter to a time when hoop dreams were baptized in sweat, soundtrack, and concrete.

We contrast the grittiness of the past with the hyper-managed youth hoops scene of today, and ask: Has basketball lost its soul? Or can authenticity still be found at dusty courts, midnight runs, and community events like IU’s outdoor Kirkwood showcase?

Perfect for fans of basketball history, streetball culture, and those who remember when the game was loud, loose, and full of love.

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Half Man, Half Amazing: The Lost Art of Streetball and the Soul of Summer Hoops

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In the season finale of Iconic Seasons: Trailblazing, we trace the fall of NBA dynasties—from Bill Walton’s broken promise in Portland to Jordan’s Bulls and Curry’s Warriors—into today’s era of chaos and parity. Why have dynasties died, and can Oklahoma City revive one? Explore the legacy, culture, and power struggles that shaped basketball’s past and future.



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Dynasties are Dead: How the NBA Shifted from Legends to Parity | Iconic Seasons

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This episode of "Iconic Seasons" explores a haunting parallel between basketball dynasties separated by nearly 50 years. Host Aaron Meyer examines whether the young Oklahoma City Thunder can avoid the fate of the 1977 Portland Trail Blazers - a championship team that had everything but completely collapsed within three years.

The Portland Trail Blazers were a phenomenon - selling out 102 consecutive games with fans so obsessed that season tickets appeared in personal ads. Led by Bill Walton and Maurice Lucas, they seemed destined for dynasty status. But everything unraveled after Walton's ankle injury in February 1978, revealing a culture of medical mismanagement, financial disputes, and eroding trust. Players received multiple injections per game, played through undiagnosed fractures, and felt chronically underpaid. When Walton demanded a trade citing "unethical and incompetent treatment," the dynasty crumbled - only three of the 12 championship players remained after three years.

Now the Thunder face similar pressures with their core trio locked into $822 million in contracts. At an average age of just 24.7, they have all the ingredients Portland had: youth, talent, chemistry, and financial security. But Meyer warns of danger signs to watch: rushed injury management, contract disputes with role players, the "disease of more" where individual ambition overtakes team goals, and leadership conflicts.

The modern NBA offers protections Portland lacked - salary caps, better medical protocols, and player development infrastructure. But new pressures exist too: social media scrutiny, agent manipulation, and global market opportunities that could fragment the team.

The central question remains: Can Oklahoma City learn from Portland's mistakes and build a sustainable dynasty, or will success breed the same individual ambitions that destroyed the Trail Blazers? As Meyer concludes, "The hardest opponent isn't the other team. It's in the mirror.

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From Dynasty to Disaster: Why Young NBA Teams Fail (OKC Thunder Warning)

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Episode 3 dives into the shifting balance of power in the NBA, from Abdul Jeelani’s quiet struggle and Maurice Lucas’s defiance under Jack Ramsay, to how Thunder coach Mark Daigneault navigates a modern player-led league. Discover how coaching evolved from control to collaboration—and why that matters now more than ever.

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The Coach’s Dilemma: From the Trail Blazers to Today’s Thunder – Power, Players & the Evolution of Leadership in the NBA

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Episode 2 — The Chemistry of Youth: The Fine Line Between Synergy and Fracture

In this episode of Iconic Seasons, we explore the exhilarating rise—and sudden unraveling—of the 1977 Portland Trail Blazers, the youngest team in NBA history to win a championship. With stars like Bill Walton and Maurice Lucas, the Blazers had the makings of a dynasty… until injuries, egos, and organizational decisions cracked their foundation.

We draw a compelling parallel to the present-day Oklahoma City Thunder, where Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Chet Holmgren, and Jalen Williams are building something special. Can OKC avoid the pitfalls that doomed Portland? Or is fracture inevitable for young teams?

Featuring archival commentary, crowd atmosphere clips, and insight into player dynamics, this episode unpacks what it really takes to keep a young team together in a league built on change.

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How the 1977 Trail Blazers Fell Apart...And Why the Thunder Might Not | The Chemistry of Youth

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What does it really take to build a contender from nothing? In the debut episode of Iconic Seasons, we explore the painful beauty of starting from scratch—from the 1977 Portland Trail Blazers to today’s rising Oklahoma City Thunder.

Through the lens of Dr. Jack Ramsay’s vision, Bill Walton’s poetry-in-motion play, and the chemistry that defined a championship, we uncover what makes a team truly iconic—and what tears it apart. Then, we fast-forward to the modern blueprint of hope in OKC, where youth, culture, and vision collide with wealth, ego, and pressure.

With clips from the legends and insights into today’s stars like SGA, Chet Holmgren, and Jalen Williams, we ask: Is it talent or chemistry that builds a champion? And can a modern small-market team keep the dream alive in today’s NBA?

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Origins of Promise: How Underdogs Become Contenders – Trail Blazers to Thunder

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Welcome to Season 3 of Iconic Seasons.

This year, we shift from college hardwood to the NBA stage, diving deep into two of the youngest teams ever to shake the league: the 1977 Portland Trail Blazers and the 2024 Oklahoma City Thunder.

In this season trailer, we look ahead to a story of belief, chemistry, and basketball beyond expectations. Everyone talked about how young this year’s Thunder team was — but no one told us how they really did it. And back in ‘77, Portland stunned the world in their very first playoff run, building a culture that still echoes today.

Our first full episode, “The Young and the Fearless,” premieres soon — a deep dive into how the 1977 Blazers built something unforgettable.

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Season 3 Trailer: How the 1977 Trail Blazers & 2024 Thunder Redefined NBA Youth Movements

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In this episode of Iconic Seasons, host Aaron Meyer takes you back to an era when transferring in college basketball wasn’t easy — it was a sacrifice. Before the transfer portal and NIL deals, switching schools meant sitting out an entire year, risking momentum, and betting on yourself.



Aaron shares personal reflections — including a surprising moment when he couldn’t recognize a single IU player at a Chipotle in Bloomington — and dives deep into the unforgettable transfer stories of Jason Williams, Ed O’Bannon, Hank Gathers, Felipe López, and Marcus Fizer.



You’ll hear about:

🏀 Jason Williams giving up a season to follow Billy Donovan to Florida.

🏀 Ed O’Bannon leaving UNLV’s wreckage to become a UCLA champion — and later, an NCAA reformer.

🏀 Hank Gathers’ heartbreaking, inspirational run at Loyola Marymount.

🏀 The weight Felipe López carried for New York City hoops.

🏀 Marcus Fizer’s rise from uncertainty to Big 12 dominance.



👂 What do you think? Is today’s transfer era bad… or just different? Share your thoughts in the comments!



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