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EPISODE 8 - PATRIOTS DRAFT DRAKE MAYE. LIVE REACTION!
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Caleb Williams' Draft and Reactions
00:00:02
Speaker
All right, welcome back to the Savage Foster podcast. Just name dropped 20 minutes into the podcast, which is always terrible, although we've been talking for 20 minutes. Caleb Williams just got drafted first overall, which is lovely. Hopefully, I will figure out how to edit this in the future.
00:00:20
Speaker
So we don't waste 20 minutes of material like I edited last time So yeah, we are Caleb Williams is parading around stage dancing around.
Live Reactions to Draft Celebrations
00:00:29
Speaker
He just got taken first overall and We're waiting on what's gonna happen because the commanders are on the clock and the Patriots. So Sorry guys
00:00:39
Speaker
Uh, yeah, that was great. Um, I shouldn't have a couple of double IPAs while we're doing a live podcast, but here we are reacting to the NFL draft.
Bears' Front Office Celebration
00:00:49
Speaker
So how are you guys doing? If you can't doing great. I actually was going to comment.
00:00:59
Speaker
I was going to comment how much I love the fact that the Bears like front office staff is in there celebrating, dapping it up and going through and applauding. When I look at it, I'm just like, guys, like, what are you applauding? This was going to happen. This was the most guaranteed thing to occur. And they're like, yeah, great job, guys. Great job. Good work. Good work. And I'm like, it's weird. I mean, they've known, they've known it for.
00:01:26
Speaker
How long have they known that they're gonna take Caleb with you do it? Yeah, that's what I mean. It's You do it because it's stupid. It's just I mean it is kind of stupid for this instance But the reason you celebrate is cuz like a lot of these guys are Scouts and shit who spent countless hours like going at like for Williams specifically they went to like all of his teammates at Oklahoma and USC to interview them to see like what kind of guy is cuz you know the reputation he has of being a
00:01:54
Speaker
unique character in the diva and all that.
Scouting Caleb Williams
00:01:57
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So they like went to his teammates like everywhere, pro days everywhere, you know, in private workouts, things like that, just to be like, all right, what's he like, like, you know, that type. By the way, they just, they just crushed, I guess, a Bella check on Pat McAfee's live show, barely just crushed Drake May for his footwork. Nice. So I find that kind of interesting.
00:02:19
Speaker
Being able to listen to Belichick speak, you know, is kind of funny. Obviously, we're not listening now because we're live recording, but I listened before the show and it's pretty incredible that he's just, he's going to seamlessly transition to the media, which is what people do, I suppose, but it's weird since he kind of, you know, was a dick for 25 years. And now what is he going to start interviewing people? You know what I mean? Like, it just feels very awkward. It's like the Twilight Zone.
00:02:49
Speaker
It's perfect though for him. It's like right on brand to be honest with you. Oh yeah, he's going to be great at it. Everyone knew why he was a dick to the media. It was comical from the sense that he didn't have to be as much of a dick as he was. He basically intentionally fed them nothing.
00:03:07
Speaker
But he could have been more political about it, but he just didn't fucking care. So that's what made it comical. But when you get down to the guy and you get him in a setting like this, where he's talking about footwork, talking about football, talking about all this stuff, like love seeing him in that setting and that environment, listen to him all day in that sort of environment.
00:03:28
Speaker
So yeah, I'm looking forward to his analytical side of it. They still rave about the work he did in that NFL top 100 all time. They still rave about how good he was. I mean, he won a fucking Emmy for it. Like he was, they were like, he walked in, he broke down all the film. He knew everything. He was well-prepared. He was engaged. I mean, he was awesome in it.
Bill Belichick's Media Move?
00:03:52
Speaker
And he's like the perfect guy to do that, you know, but like it's, he just, he's a football junkie. That's what he is. So, you know, you get him just talking ball, like he's going to talk for hours. Did you guys hear Billy O'Brien talking earlier today? I heard a little bit of it. Did you hear Billy O'Brien? Yeah, I heard. I'm excited for him at Boston college. I just think he can.
00:04:15
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bring some serious legitimacy to that program and like really get recruits in, like high level recruits.
Billy O'Brien and Boston College
00:04:23
Speaker
So that's not what I'm excited about. Well, what I thought was great about the interview was how he was talking about like people coming down and checking it out and whatnot. He was talking about- Commander's pick is in. Ernie Adams came down and walked down to the practice and was like pointing out some things to have and talking to him about the players. And like, man, Ernie Adams and Belichick, I would love to just be on a fly on the wall in those conversations.
00:04:46
Speaker
The I think the big thing about the reason why you like why you like why I like Bill O'Brien at BC is I think he may want at this point in his life and career he may want to stay here because he's got family in the area, you know, you know about his I think it's a son right that has
00:05:07
Speaker
the health issues and stuff. So he may want to stay in the area from here and all that. So that, as much as anything, is beneficial to BC. If he's successful in bringing recruits here and wants to stay here, instead of just jumping to Michigan or wherever, that's huge. Because he could make a bunch of money right off into the sunset here.
Anticipation for NFL Draft Picks
00:05:28
Speaker
Or he could be wrong, and he just says fuck off and goes back to the NFL after three years. I don't know.
00:05:34
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, the fact that you guys can watch live, you want to meet yourself? No, I don't have to do it. I'm not going to just the pics in. So you guys, you guys react. I know. I know the future. You guys react to life. Well, I think if you react in the future, you would know the future if your reaction was like, what the fuck?
00:05:59
Speaker
Jesus fucking Christ like I know the future guys Oh, I guess Drake may goes to Yeah, I yes, I think if I'm pretty confident if Drake may it was going to I would be going ballistic right now so I
00:06:20
Speaker
Yes, then you shut up for me around out and don't tell us anything Brett and I will leave the conversation Yeah, you guys go for it. You guys be loud We are loud Extremely loud we're gonna scream just don't be loud in the background ruin the freaking peck Let's go boys, I'm literally pacing in my basement I Like I'm let's go
00:06:51
Speaker
Let's fucking go. Just don't overthink this. Don't get silly. Don't get stupid. Nah, they can't. You can't get silly. Just don't trick them. Stupid. Please don't trick them. Unless someone offers you a comically large, you know, quote, bag to move up to three. Just fucking stay there. Take the quarterback. You're not going to get killed if the quarterback... Let me take Linda this way. You're not going to get killed if the quarterback doesn't work because you took the
Strategy of Selecting a Top QB
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quarterback. You may get killed because nothing else worked around the quarterback and that's why you failed.
00:07:20
Speaker
No one's gonna kill you for taking the highest rated quarterback on the board. No one's gonna do that. No. I mean, I think, you know, Jayden Daniels, now that he's, you know, again, we're reacting live here. Now that Jayden Daniels has been picked, you know, I think he's ridiculously explosive. Like a really good quarterback. I don't know how he translates. Can he be Lamar? Like, yeah, I think he can be Lamar, which is a really good quarterback. Like a top 10.
00:07:50
Speaker
explosive QB puts you in the conversation every year. Do you know what I mean? He like, he brings you to the playoffs maybe every year. Like he's a talented explosive play machine and he was dynamic. You know, he did pass to Malik neighbors and Brian Thomas Jr. Just saying.
00:08:09
Speaker
I know we're not supposed to talk about that, but he had some pretty elite talent, but let's see how he translates. He's a, again, he's a ridiculous playmaker. I don't like how when he gets outside of the pocket, he looks to run every time. You know, you need to look to the difference. The difference is I know he was starting to similarly like elite town, right? And so was panics, but the difference is his panics was playing in the pack 12.
00:08:34
Speaker
He's playing the SEC. So he's throwing that NFL talent and legit NFL talent, but most weeks he's also playing legit NFL talent. There is that caveat to it. I kind of laugh about the Lamar Jackson comparison, which
00:08:52
Speaker
I would say, yeah, that's probably his ceiling. I personally don't think he gets there, but don't forget. He might not. Lamar's really good. Yeah, but everyone thought how much Lamar sucked the first few years in the league. He was always an elite athlete outside the pocket runner.
00:09:12
Speaker
But like, honestly, his throwing mechanics and decision was like, horrible. He couldn't throw. So it's just a funny comparison. He's a better passer than Lamar was, but he's not as quick as Lamar. He's, he might be close to like straight line speed, but he's not as quick as Lamar. And Lamar's thicker. If that makes sense. Like he's such as like a bigger, thicker build.
00:09:38
Speaker
Daniels is like tiny. He's very very slight. He showed I saw something today that Brian Kelly said he showed up to LSU at 170 pounds 6-4 that is like to pick the pick is in Pick pick is that it gives me nice pick is savage. Shut your mouth. You shut the hormone The pick is in
00:10:05
Speaker
We're just going to be quiet for like the next five minutes staring as the pick is in. And we just keep saying the pick is there. Just mute yourself. I'm muted. I'll mute myself. In other news, I did win money from my friend because they stayed. That's very true. They did not trade out. Take that $20. Not trade out.
00:10:35
Speaker
When do you turn up the volume on your thing? Turn up a little bit. You jump on it, Snooty. All right, congratulations to you. I want to hear it a little bit by proxy here because it's not, because I know, what am I, 30 seconds ahead of you guys? Thanks, though. Oh, my God. A lot of quarterbacks. That's gross. Our colleague was looking at being here for me. That's a lot of stuff.
00:11:05
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RG3 is honestly probably a better comparison for him and RG3 was good. Yeah, really got hurt Oh, yeah, no, that's probably good but RG3 was very very very good RG3 was definitely bigger than him though war room dude, you're 30 seconds ahead
00:11:30
Speaker
Stop it. Okay. Okay. I'm just looking at the worm. There's RKK. There's Mr. Wolf. There's Mr. Jonathan Kraft. Is Highsmith in there? There's the future. Make it happen.
00:11:56
Speaker
He wasn't his actor, he wasn't his persona. He was missing his safety, struck his savior, and went to a justice of world football. But the talent, he's 21 years of age, is through the roof, and that's what you're back to like. I need to hear that announcement. You quiet over there. I'm quiet. I got it right there. Can you hear it? I'm quiet. A little bit. Mildly.
00:12:26
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with the third pick in the 2024 NFL Draft. The New England Patriots select Drake May. Yeah! Woo! Let's go! Let's go! Listen, baby, let's go. Let's fucking go.
Patriots Select Drake May
00:12:43
Speaker
Fucking hell. Let's go. Fucking... So fucking pumped, dude. Oh shit. Okay. Okay. Let's...
00:12:55
Speaker
Fucking go. Future, right there. Look at that stud. He's fucking ready, dude. The monster. Man, he's got sweet air Jordans on. They're custom. Yeah, we got to get rid of that baby blue North Carolina and get that Patriot blue. That's fine, man. I don't give a fine fuck. Now I can still like Michigan. I was actually going to write off Michigan entirely, the state and university.
00:13:25
Speaker
if they took JJ McCarthy, because of some stupid. It's funny, Chris Catello, who's a UNC grad, I believe, just said this is one of the greatest moments of my life. And he's a UNC guy. Just in heaven right now. Wow. So now we can talk a little more. Now, do you still want me to not spoil pics, I assume? No, I don't give a shit.
00:13:50
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Care no cuz like I'll let you because the Cardinals are
Marvin Harrison Jr.'s NFL Potential
00:13:53
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on I don't know yet I'll just let you know when and I'm gonna be reading stuff on Twitter now, too. So I got Yeah, all right. Cool. We're done. Oh, man. We're out of the weeds and Those are not expected to trade or pick. I'm gonna guess this is and this should be mhj Yeah, they can't do it. You know what good for mhj. I assume it's him. It's not him yet but you know what I mean like I
00:14:16
Speaker
Good for him, man, because he deserves to get picked right here. He's a fantastic player who's gotten, like, not as much fucking hype. Because everyone's like, oh, neighbors, all this. But, like, we're talking a generational kid in Marvin Harrison Jr. that deserves every bit of hype.
00:14:37
Speaker
You know, and they should be talking about him. So he, I'm going to guess he's going here at Ford. Hasn't happy yet. I'll have to listen to all these Drake interviews later. Love that fucking hat from Drake. I gotta have to listen to this interview later. Oh, I'm so fucking psyched, man. I'm so, this is exactly what I wanted. If you thought last year, after his fucking ridiculous season, you threw like 38 teams and seven picks and you're like, the Patriots are going to have this kid for the future. You'd be fucking psyched.
00:15:08
Speaker
site off not yet to jack up here go but I am I'm just gonna have dope that's a dope and I won holy shit all my wages good you and everything I also wage at first three draft picks in order yeah they do what you get for that bucks I think I'm up like you know age or more dude you get
00:15:36
Speaker
Yeah, good picks. I think I won like 60 bucks last year on the draft. Just doing little stuff. And I think I'm up 50 bucks right now. And I still got some stuff out there. So, fuck you. Who excited? I love how they intentionally just put up. Hold on, let me read from a Belichick quote here. From Bill Belichick, from Doug Kied.
00:16:04
Speaker
Bill Belichick on Patriots number three overall picked Drake May. Drake compares himself a lot to Josh Allen. We'll see about that. I think there are some comparisons with size and athleticism, but Josh Allen is a pretty special player. And then he said, Marvin Harrison Jr. number four overall. Harrison Jr. just came in.
00:16:23
Speaker
A very talented kid, good size, runs well, has a good arm. Jesse hasn't played very much. He really doesn't have a lot of experience. He makes some big plays. He's going to need some work
Belichick on Drake May's Potential
00:16:33
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in reading defenses, reading coverages. That's what Bill does. That's all fair. Yes. And that's all correctable, Bill. Wow. By the way, good for MHA here. He deserves to get picked four overall. He's a fucking monster. And everyone's a good neighbor. He's a doomsday. No, no, no.
00:16:54
Speaker
MHA is to me pretty generational as a prospect and I love how you know these generational because no one said a fucking word about They're just like other than our Patriots fans here that for some reason wanted to draft him instead of a quarterback So everyone's like oh neighbors all this MHA has been there fuck. Yes. I'm so jacked up. Yeah Yeah, I'm so he's gonna be reading shit till like three o'clock in the morning. I
00:17:21
Speaker
Yes, I am going to be up awake for quite a long time, probably. Well, I think there's a real chance they trade back up. I agree, so we're going to have to stay up. One AM. Look, it's a tough job, but I'll do it. OK. And I'll be watching. Yes, it's a tough job. You got the whiskey out, Snooty? I am drinking myself a double IPA from Toplin Goliath.
00:17:52
Speaker
Ooh. I like how they're restricting Ian Rappaport, by the way. He's like tweeting right as the pick's pretty much getting announced. Like he's basically like, I think, hamstrung by the league. Yeah. Because like Jeff Howe to me has it first. That's been the guy to break it is Jeff. Like somehow these dudes are getting it as the pick's getting like handed in.
00:18:13
Speaker
Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't know, like Burt Breer. Dude, Burt Breer had the May pick like fucking five minutes early. He goes, Patriots are picking them. Like, how tuned in are you? I mean, this is why people are like, oh, it's Breer. No, he like, he's tuned in. He's either getting it directly from someone in the fucking organization, like directly, like we're picking May now.
00:18:33
Speaker
You know what I mean? People don't get it. If you're a true insider like that, it's not just guesswork. First of all, I've never claimed to be an insider on Twitter. I just react. I've never said I have sources. I talk to people who are reporters. I don't have sources. I just react to stuff. That's the whole account. It's for fun. But so many people pretending guesswork here and here.
00:18:56
Speaker
It's so different when you're at a different level, like Rappaport, Schefter, Drake, you know, and what do you call it? Burt Breer. Like they have legitimate guys there next to them or from Elliott Wolf or from, you know, it's impressive how quickly they get that announcement out as the Patriots hand the card in. It's like, Christ, how do you get it so fast? I mean, seriously. David, your insiders are the people that report insiders.
00:19:27
Speaker
Yeah, my insiders are the insiders. I mean, like, listen, I'll talk to some people. But these guys are the guys getting it from sources. You know what I mean? Like, it's clearly my account is not designed. I've never in my life claimed people are like, Oh, you make up I don't make up any. I've never claimed to make up stuff. I've never claimed to have inside sources. It's not what I've claimed.
00:19:53
Speaker
I've only react to stuff. I'll talk to people on there. I've talked to a bunch of insiders before on there, but I'm talking to the insiders, not their sources. So they're the guys, more props to them. I'll share their articles. I'll share their shit. That's fine. But I enjoy reacting to this here. Oh, man. I just saw this from Taylor Kyles, who's awesome fallholder. Yeah. It's homework. Yeah, he's good. Yeah.
00:20:19
Speaker
He said the page should send the commanders of fruit basket for gifting them gonzalas in may Emmanuel Shit Oh, they go for some, uh, mississippi stayed the corner that weighed like 172 pounds or 165 pounds or something Um right before the pick directly before gonzales He might be dead on with this with this one Where did he i'll have to find the tweet
00:20:48
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That's perfect. That's that is I can't believe they did it. I'm so fucking happy. This is amazing. I'm happy we all over the last like this. First of all, it feels relieving because this is a culmination of months.
Debating Drafting Strategies
00:21:10
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I mean, it's not like we're there and our job is scouting, right? This is but this truly is like
00:21:15
Speaker
Every day we're on there, we're talking about it, thinking about it. This is a culmination of months of discussion and prep and figuring out who you want. And for a while, everyone's calling in, oh, trade down, get PENEX, do this. And it's like, you know, at some point, do you have the balls or the conviction to take the fucking guy?
00:21:34
Speaker
You have the balls and I'm very happy that Elliott wolf had the balls to take the player Dude, you gotta fucking take a risk at some point like you have to that's just a You do you're I mean like it's just a fact you have to do that at some point This wasn't a risk he is a high heat like he's a higher risk project prospect then
00:22:03
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than Penix, in the sense that he's less polished coming out. But the reciprocal of that is that his ceiling is that much higher. Oh, here's a report. You ready for a report? This is from Ian Rappaport. One minute ago, the Patriots had big time offers from the Vikings and the Giants and decided to stick with May.
00:22:34
Speaker
So that's her guy. Yeah. Big time offers, huh? Yeah. That's an intentional. I mean, if I'm not going to lie, like that's an intentional, like, Hey, we had big offers stuck with them though. Like, yeah. Yeah. But probably true though. You don't think it's true? I mean, I think they were going to say that no matter what.
00:23:01
Speaker
Yeah. Wow. So there's a difference between, I think they were going to say they had big time offers and they had big time offers. Right. So what do you think? I inherently believe it. They may have, but like, I think they were going to say that no matter what, because that's the counter to you just put up a big for sale sign in front of the pick for, you know, a few weeks or months or whatever. The counter to that is like, Oh, no, we got huge offers. We turned it down. Cause May was there. It's everything I said before right before.
00:23:29
Speaker
Well, no, we, we were doing that cause we weren't sure that he was going to be there and then he was there. So we took him.
00:23:38
Speaker
You know what I mean? It'd be interesting to see if they give like some specifics out on what that big time offer was, but I think it was accurate when you look at it and say, let's just say it was big time offers and they were like legitimate, like this year's first, this year's second, and like next year's first or something crazy like that. And we... Your internet's gotten out of it. Sorry. Your internet's gotten out of it.
00:24:05
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Sorry, just what I was gonna say though is is basically if if it may is you're back Brett Brett try to I'm gonna mute him just try to Brett try to connect your internet back up or something cuz it's Oh, it's not more trading your phone. I Know trade here. This is really how nobody's trading. Are they picking a late? I think it's either alter late from here and that means
00:24:31
Speaker
I think Latham got the height last few days. That means it could be McCarthy at 6. You think so? That's high. To the Giants. Or it could be neighbors at 6. Great. By the way, that's a great pick for Arizona. I think that's a fantastic pick, MHJ.
00:25:01
Speaker
Which is fair. The Patriots just tweeted the, it's going to be May meme. Did they? I'm so psyched man. Oh, that's big. Big pick. By the way, that's, you know, nobody had that. They had JC Latham recently, but like, you know, that was, that was big. Joe Alt is the, was the premier tackle and
00:25:32
Speaker
We talked about that. We're like, I think Joe Walt's going to be the guy. Joe Walt is a fantastic tackle. And that's what Harbaugh wants, his premier lineman. He wants to run the fucking football. And so that's kind of a simple pick. I think maybe if M.H.J. fell, they would have maybe taken him. But who do the Chargers have at receiver? Nobody. No one. It's weird. I'll be in New York.
00:26:02
Speaker
That's why I, you know, I know we did our mock and I picked neighbors here because I basically said they need a wide receiver. I know, I know the mentality where, yeah, you know, need the lineman. They need a lot. I kind of didn't understand why they let go of Keenan and Mike Williams. They basically were like, yeah, we're just going to clean house. Didn't make sense. Alt is a monster.
00:26:31
Speaker
This kid is a fucking artist. He's good. He's good. He's like, I would love for all to be our left tackle. I mean, his dad's a fucking number 21st overall offensive tackle. I mean, the bloodlines are too good. Like, you can't escape the bloodlines. That's all I'm saying. I'm a big, like, bloodline guy. Just like with Drake May. He's got a fantastic dad. Dude, he's 6'8". Yeah. His dad was a first-round pick.
00:27:02
Speaker
He's a base dude. What are you six eight? Like eight, three 20. He's going to put on a weight. He's just like, is a premier at LT. I love, I love the, I love the day didn't fall. He was my pick. I would have been happy if they took him at three. That's a great, they took him at three. I would have been like, okay, not over may, but like, if may wasn't there, sure. I never bought a new Joe Thomas too.
00:27:29
Speaker
played for the Browns. That's why they didn't win. Not because he went three overall. It's a great, that's great pick. Joe Thomas was, is also a Hall of Fame. Yeah. It's cause he played for the Browns. If he went literally anywhere else, he would have had infinitely more, infinite, more success than he did.
00:27:54
Speaker
Wasn't, was it Joe Thomas that was out hunting when he got picked? Fishing. They invited him. They're like, so you're going. He's like, no, I'm not. They're like, yeah, so you're going. He's like, no, I'm going fishing with my dad. They're like, but you can go to New York in the draft. He's like, I don't want to, I'm going to go fishing with my dad. And they're like, fine, we're going to send him with you. He's like, not in my boat. So they sent another boat for him to go to have a camera crew to film them.
00:28:20
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And he just answered the phone and goes, oh, thanks coach. And then just sits down and keeps fishing. I'm like, that's, that's a fucking, that's a man right there. Yeah. That guy's a hall of famer all day. Well, even like this, I mean, Joel's not even there. He's like at like a bar restaurant or whatever, like just away with his family. Like that's where you should be. By the way, a drawed mail on.
00:28:49
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whether or not Drake may will play, uh, when he'll play. And he said, um, quote unquote, our philosophy is the best players will play. He's not saying he's going to sit. He just says the best players will play. Yeah. Well, let's take that. What else are you going to say? That sounds like, that sounds like Mayo has been taking a little bit of PR lessons from Stacy James and learning how to communicate. Cause he really sucked early on and that was a good answer. Yeah.
00:29:21
Speaker
All right, I think I'm going to sign off on the podcast, boys. Yeah, and listen to it. All right, good stuff, good reaction. At least we got their live reaction. And that was great. All right, Drake Macy's and Baby. Let's go. All right, we'll see you guys later. Peace.