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Walk like an Egyptian
10 Plays3 years ago
Salman soliloquizes on the people queueing outside for the iphone14 and for the Queen, the reason for his love for Egyptians, what the song 'walk like and Egyptian meant to him', and how Egyptians and Pakistanis are similar in so many ways
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Introduction and Welcome
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Hey everyone, welcome back.
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It's Lamont Qureshi.
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You're listening to the Expat Brad Podcast.
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What's up?
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So here we are recording and wishing you guys are having an exciting day.
Queuing for iPhone 14 and the Queen's Coffin
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I think as long as you're not one of those people stuck in a queue somewhere, you should be really happy with yourself and your life.
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Like you got to thank God you're not one of those idiots.
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All right.
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And there are a couple of cues I'm referring to.
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Okay.
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Particularly long ones.
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A is the one outside the queen.
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Queen's.
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Is it to see the coffin?
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Something like that.
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There's a line out there.
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And then there's the iPhone 14 line.
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Two long lines that to me are just meaningless and dumb.
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So if you're not in there.
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You're great.
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See, the iPhone 14 one I don't get anymore because you can order online.
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You might have to wait a day or two.
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Come on, man.
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We're at the 14th iPhone now, right?
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It's time to give this thing a rest.
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You don't have to.
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Like now you look like schmucks, like people.
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You know, you got to know when something's turned into like mocking, like when you have.
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When something starts off as cool and you all want to do it, it's cool.
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It's right.
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Like everyone wants to get in on it and it goes on for a little bit.
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But iPhone 14, it's like you're trying to get people to do the fidget spin thing with you again or the bottle tossing.
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You remember that?
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The bottle toss thing with a little bit of water in the bottle and you flip it and it lands on and everyone's like, oh my God, I've never seen anything like that before.
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Ah!
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And I think it's time, you know, you just go, it's time to give this a rest.
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And the iPhone 14, I think, has reached that point.
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Don't get me wrong.
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I love Apple products.
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I am invested in the ecosystem of the Apple world.
Apple Investments and Ethical Concerns
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It starts slow and then you just get sucked into it.
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But, you know, I don't think it's a bad thing.
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I think maybe not for my bank account.
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But overall, it is good quality products and I like it.
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And once you're with the iPhone and stuff, it's hard to go back.
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I love the camera on it.
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I've got the iPhone 13 and I got to say, it's a great phone.
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I love it.
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Nothing wrong with it.
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I agree the price is too high and whatnot.
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It should be a bit lower.
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a lot lower, really, considering they source all their stuff from China.
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Every smartphone, right?
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China manufactures it.
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They get the minerals.
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But, you know, aren't there like little kids in Africa thrown into some kind of mines?
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Forget like working hours and rights.
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They're just like little children pulling out these minerals.
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And that builds the screens and the phone chips and everything for us so that we in the better parts of the world can use these smartphones to get on social media and talk about how we want this world to be a better place.
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Oh, and then there's the queen, of course, right?
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She's dead.
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King Charles has taken over.
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And apparently there's like a 12-hour line.
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David Beckham's in it.
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And they're just standing around for it.
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And again, I don't know why you have to stand there to pay your respect like that, especially for that.
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But you know my favorite point about it?
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I got to say this before I move into my main topic.
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My favorite thing about it was that
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I heard people complaining.
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I was reading about it, about how people are complaining that some people are getting VIP treatment and getting to skip the lines and pay their respect to the queens earlier than the common folks.
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And if I have to explain that to you, the irony or the stupidity of that is,
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Of someone being upset about that, that's what I mean.
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Then go away and think about it.
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Actually, I'll tell you why.
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It's a queen.
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It's a monarchy.
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They've set themselves up.
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They call themselves blue-blooded.
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They've set themselves up to be considered more special than all of you.
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And you're standing in line to pay your respects to this form of, you know, rule over you.
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It's stupid of you to complain about people being equal.
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You literally...
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Oh, man.
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What's up with humanity?
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What's up?
Egyptian Cultural Connections
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I titled this podcast Walk Like an Egyptian, not to mock Egyptians.
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This is very cool.
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I've been thinking about my upbringing and...
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I just realized as a Pakistani and as an expat in the Gulf, Egyptians are a big part of my life.
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I have always been.
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And Egypt intrigues me in so many ways.
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And I think Egypt not only has had a direct impact on my life, but actually is very much like Pakistan in a lot of ways.
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And I'll get into that in a second and explain that.
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But, you know, my my relationship with Egyptians go back.
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right from day one that I've gone into school and stuff.
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All right, so a lot of my classmates were from Egypt.
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A lot of the teachers I had, particularly the ones who taught me Arabic,
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and religious studies, Islamic studies in Saudi.
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I'm making it sound more plural than it was.
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This is the Saudi in the 80s.
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By the way, very impressed by the Saudi marketing going on right now.
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They've opened up visas for people.
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The airlines, I've been seeing some of the ads they've been putting up.
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And they're really...
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They're really going for this tourism thing.
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And I got to applaud them.
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You know, I make a lot of jokes about my childhood there.
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And man, rightfully so.
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Right.
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It was a big stereotype.
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And I've talked about this in a previous episode.
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So but but, you know, hats off to them.
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They're they're actually doing it.
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You know, one of the reasons I was very skeptical at the beginning is because Saudi did have a habit of announcing these grand schemes and big gestures and whatnot and then never following through on it.
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But it's the first time I've kind of sat back, I've been watching this and going, hmm, I'm kind of impressed.
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And, you know, again, great, great.
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If they can go down this path, great for them.
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But yeah, so even my principal was an Egyptian person, Mr. Kamal.
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And I recently got in touch with him through some school alumni kids and whatnot.
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And we connected, especially during the COVID times because, hey, what else did you have to do back then?
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But it's really cool because I got to talk about some old stories and, you know, find out that he's still alive.
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He's just moved back home from Saudi to Egypt and living this retired life.
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But he was really, really happy to see, hear messages coming in from old students.
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You know, he probably won't recognize me.
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Because it was a busy school.
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It reminds me of this story.
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This one time, me, a friend named Taha, and one more kid, Adil, we get sent off to the principal's office.
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Now, just as a background, my friend Taha, Indian kid, moved to the States very early on.
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And he was a naughty one, right?
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He was the instigator in our group.
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He'd be the one, let's do something crazy kind of guy.
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And I don't know what we had done this time to be sent off to the principal's office, but we follow him in.
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Daha's like, you know, the dude...
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And our principal, Mr. Kamal, he turns to Taha and Asin, he just goes, you guys, I expect you to be here, but you.
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And he's saying this as he turns to Taha.
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I'm so shocked that you are here.
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You know, you're such a good kid and you're such a good role model in the school.
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I'm very shocked that you're with these kids.
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And me and this other dude, a couple of other friends who were sent in because Taha caused this, were standing there in disbelief thinking,
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what's going on here?
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So I don't know whether he mistook him for someone else or he just had a clean image in front of the principal and why we had bad images in front of him.
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I don't know what the background, what happened that day, but I still remember it as like a shocker.
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But great guy, our headmaster and...
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And yeah, he was Egyptian.
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Right.
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And and so, like I said, so we're a lot of my my one bad kind of experience was with a couple of Egyptian teachers was that, you know, they did believe in punishment, like, you know, the hard hitting type.
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Some of them would bring out the scale and stuff.
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And that kind of made me hate having to go into my Arabic or religion, Islamic study classes.
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That's a little regret.
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It's a bit sad that that happened, but I also had some really good teachers.
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There were a couple of good Egyptian Arabic teachers of mine as well, namely Mr. Ashraf.
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Really good.
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It was nice to experience that, but here's where it gets interesting.
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One of the biggest impacts or one of the best things I got out of Egypt, I got to thank
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the Egyptians, all my Egyptian people in the world for it.
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Now, I was stuck in Jeddah.
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All right.
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This is pre-internet.
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This is pre-satellite dish.
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This is pre-cable.
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All right.
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So all I had
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access to on my TV where, you know, and this is going old school with the aerial, you had to fit on the TV and then you started hanging it outside your window with one of your uncles hanging half outside to make sure you got it and hoping he doesn't fall off and die, but you get to the right angle so you're catching all the channels possible.
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That situation, all right?
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We're in that situation and we get two channels that are based in Saudi Arabia.
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One of them was called Channel One, which was Arabic programming, and Channel Two was English programming, which aired a few things, heavily censored as well.
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And then on good days, across from the Red Sea,
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the airwaves passed on Egyptian TV channels.
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All right.
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On very clear days, we'd receive two Egyptian channels into our set and we could watch stuff on it.
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And it was interesting because every Eid holidays, they play Bollywood movies for three days of Eid celebrations.
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They play a Bollywood movie or two Bollywood movies every single day.
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primarily of this Bollywood superstar called Amitabh Bachchan from the 80s and 90s.
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All right, so I grew up watching these movies and just being blessed that I had access to this.
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It was love, I realized Egyptians loved Indian movies, particularly Amitabh Bachchan, and so his movies were played and I got to watch it.
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So it was like a whole thing that I associated with just Egypt providing me Bollywood movies.
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What a weird as a Pakistani, you know, it just it boggles me.
Cultural Reflections and Comparisons
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That was like globalization at its best right there at the start, at the dawn of the globalization.
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Salman Qureshi got to listen, got to watch Bollywood movies through Egypt.
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And so I always had this affinity towards Egyptian channels because I was just like, they saved us, the Egyptian people.
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They saved me and my time and my Eid holidays.
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And that was interesting.
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I got to do that.
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That's always going to stick to my mind.
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And it's so easy to see so many things now.
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It just, you know, it was joyful to have to celebrate seeing those things.
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Partly, I don't know why, it was the excitement that brown people from the subcontinent were showing up on an Arab TV.
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It was one of those good moments where we were like, there can be cross-border love.
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And we're the same skin tone, same kind of people, which brings me to the next big point, which I think is that Egyptians.
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So my my first idea of Egyptians did come from the song Walk Like an Egyptian and not in the stereotypical way, but in the sense that it's the first time I had heard or became conscious of Egyptians.
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Right.
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I mean, I had Egyptian school friends, but, you know, you hear a song like that, it hits you.
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Yes.
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What is Egypt?
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What is Egyptian?
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It makes you curious about it.
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And so I because I it was that was my first like real thought process around Egypt because it was this song, this English song that I loved sung by this beautiful woman.
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I always thought Egyptians were very cool and I still do.
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Right.
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So that kind of stuck with me for a while because of that song.
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And I know I have a few Egyptian friends get ticked off about it.
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In fact, one of one of the guys I saw, he was going on about like, you know, some people really think we walk like that.
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And I don't know, is this idiotic that that's what became our symbol?
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But, you know, it was good.
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It was nice.
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I think, you know, you got to look at the positives as well.
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And it was at that time, representation of any kind, even if what people might consider negative or stereotypical in this day and age, I appreciated back then.
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So, you know, that's where we were starting off with.
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So I think, you know, in that era, it was kind of cool to have that song and it was fun.
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And and so I kind of got exposed to that.
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And then I loved like I've admitted in a few episodes earlier that I did love reading encyclopedias.
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And one of the things that intrigued me a lot was I.
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was mythology.
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And so I read up on the Roman, the Greek and the Egyptian one.
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And, you know, they again, that aspect of it was really cool to read about their pyramids and all that.
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And so here's the thing, right?
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Like, I think Pakistan and Egypt, they currently exist.
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are these states that are overpopulated and stuck in this military rule.
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They have so much shared history, like this Islamic revolution in the 70s and 80s, kind of being the leaders of their area in some ways, military-wise at least.
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And just the radicalization of the population.
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And this was one of the things that I thought was cool, for example, was this Egyptian friend of my dad's.
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He told me about growing up in a private school in Cairo back in the 60s, 50s and 60s.
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And he said, you know, we played cricket.
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He knew cricket.
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He knew all the rules he was talking to me about.
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He said, I still watch it.
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And he said, in the private schools, we played it.
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So I guess that British effect stayed back.
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But because they didn't have as much of an impact on Egypt as they did in the subcontinent, maybe, you know, cricket didn't last or be the...
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Big thing over there.
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And but he described Egypt and how it was liberal and they, you know, people were educated and they were open minded and how that changed and how now it's different.
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And I just feel the similarities between Egypt.
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And Pakistan are very similar that way.
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We share a very rich history of theater and arts, historical kind of similarities as well.
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Now, I know the Egyptian pyramids are famous, but the south of Pakistan, the province called Sindh,
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It has a lot of old civilizations there.
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And had our governments taken care and promoted them, they would have been tourist sites because they go thousands of years back.
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They're really interesting to go see.
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And unfortunately, we just didn't ever get promoted like that or we didn't choose to do it ourselves as well.
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Maybe at some point, if they haven't been completely damaged by the floods that have happened recently, maybe, just maybe...
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we might be able to promote them properly now.
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So I'm rushing off over all these things and kind of going over, like doing an overview.
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But that's how I feel it was, you know?
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And then politics and the military and the setup of the governments and how they keep the military kind of just runs things from behind.
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All that is just eerily similar to,
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that it shocks me.
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I know other places have had dictatorship, but the way the military operates is so similar.
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They use religion, they use patriotism, not anti-patriotism, but patriotism to just hold power.
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It's so interesting.
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And if the Egyptians had certain religious group, fanatic religious groups trying to take over, Pakistan has had
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had the same problem for years and years and years now.
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It also, you know, when I look at the population, it's so similar.
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You have this educated class, a lot of them very westernized, perhaps in a way, best way to describe it.
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Sometimes I hate saying that, but that's what it is.
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And then you're kind of illiterate, I suppose.
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You know, the lower income.
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How do I say this without sounding, you know, just classist or something?
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You know what I mean.
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There's a... There's...
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There's a little bit like, uh, it's not to say uncivilized, but a bit more rough around the edges kind of population that we have.
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And we share that, right?
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Uh, our guys are driving cabs.
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Their guys are running restaurants or show arms, or whatever.
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And so there's, there's this, there is this aspect.
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They're very crude on the street.
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Women don't feel safe anymore.
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Like, you know, back in the day.
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And, um,
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And everyone gets attacked for religion and stuff as well.
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So there's all that that's very similar.
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And so I feel like the people are very similar.
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I feel like comedy is a big thing as well.
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As a comedian, that's what interests me as well.
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Now, Pakistan, I feel, actually has a good... The people there have a great comedic sense.
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I think...
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Mostly because when things are so shit, you have to find a way to laugh about things.
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Right.
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Otherwise you'll go crazy.
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And so we see the humor in a lot of things.
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And generally we enjoy watching comedy and our comedy was pretty good.
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Fun fact, a lot of Indian stand-up comics that I've met have referred old Pakistani, particularly this guy called Omar Sharif, not the famous Egyptian Omar Sharif.
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Aha, another similarity.
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Ooh.
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Omar Sharif was a stage actor, half stand-up comic kind of thing.
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He'd improvised during his plays.
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And a lot of the Indian comics, you know, he's one of their idols or one of their role models when they got into comedy.
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I'm talking about a lot of the modern ones.
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And that was nice to hear.
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Interesting as well, right?
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So deep comedic tradition, which also I think comes out in Egypt
Beauty Standards and Human Similarities
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as well.
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I know from what I understand a lot in the Arab world, Egyptians, the comedy is renowned and known and people admire it.
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And that's where a lot of the Egyptian stuff, a comedy comes from.
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And that's very interesting.
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So, you know, it's just remarkable to me.
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how much we're alike.
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And then back in the day, this is going to sound a little rude, but back in the day, you could see our women were very pretty, Egyptian women and Pakistani women.
00:20:25
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All right, I'm just saying it.
00:20:26
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Put it out there.
00:20:26
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Don't shoot the messenger, okay?
00:20:29
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I'm talking about 70s and 80s.
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And then they just, you know, once they got married and hit 30, hit 30 plus and had a couple of kids, bam, they, you know, they let themselves go.
00:20:40
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It was like a thing, man.
00:20:41
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It was...
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It was maybe it happens everywhere, but particularly stood out amongst Pakistanis and Egyptians like it would happen way too much and really bad, like really badly.
00:20:55
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So I don't know what the deal with that is, but that was another thing I noticed that's very similar.
00:21:01
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Probably not true anymore.
00:21:03
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I'm again referring to the 80s and 90s and stuff like that.
00:21:06
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All right.
00:21:06
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So so those those kind of crazy stuff leaves me.
00:21:12
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With a lot of love for Egyptians, a lot of the same frustrations for them, I feel bad.
00:21:18
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They've kind of gone through their youth.
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They've got a big youth population that wants great things in their part of the world.
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And just like Pakistanis, you know, again, two very young populations, two countries that could do a lot.
00:21:35
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If our leaders get their act together and sort things out and also the people kind of just chill out a little bit maybe, shift back to how we used to be, fun, loving and not getting all worked over over small things with each other.
00:21:55
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Maybe, just maybe that might sort things out.
00:21:58
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OK, so that's my my association and my thoughts on my fellow Egyptians.
00:22:06
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Well, not my fellow Egyptians.
00:22:08
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Right.
00:22:08
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You wouldn't say that.
00:22:08
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My my fellow human beings.
00:22:11
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All right.
00:22:12
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That's that's what it is.
00:22:13
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And and yeah, this is something I was thinking about.
00:22:17
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So.
00:22:18
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I hope this was interesting for you to listen to, whether you are from Pakistan or Egypt, because I'd love to hear your thoughts on whether you agree or disagree with that.
00:22:31
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I'd be interested to know.
00:22:35
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We are at the end of the day, people are more similar than we are different.
00:22:41
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Yeah.
00:22:41
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With that thought, I'm going to head off.
00:22:44
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I'm recording this a bit late at night.
00:22:46
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It's almost midnight, which means I'm about to turn into a pumpkin and I got to get some my beauty sleep.
00:22:52
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OK, so I'm going to leave you there.
00:22:55
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00:22:56
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00:23:03
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I'm going to head off.
00:23:05
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Thank you for listening.
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Goodbye.
00:23:07
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