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Greene Street Runs on Dunkin'
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Welcome & Inclusivity
00:00:21
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Ladies and gentlemen, and everything in between. Welcome back to the show. In between, before and after. We don't care what you are. As long as you're tuning into the show.
00:00:40
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Always the compressor right when
Sponsor Spotlight: Hayfla
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KBIS Event Preparations
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Yeah, there are ads out at the KBIS right now. Yeah. Vegas, which is, it doesn't start for a week from yesterday, but they're getting all set up.
Origin of 'Talking Turkey'
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We had Ed and Rich over here. What was that last Friday? I think so. I'm checking out the new shop, talking Turkey.
00:01:35
Speaker
Is that even a phrase? Talkin' turkey? Yeah. Yeah, what talkin' turkey, I think, means, like, to talk honestly. I'm not sure the origin of that phrase. Talk turkey. Discuss something frankly and straightforwardly.
00:01:59
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She promised to go talk turkey with the representatives. When you say it like that, it's really funny. More likely talk turkey came from pleasant conversation at Thanksgiving dinner or maybe negotiations between Native Americans and European colonists over the cost of poultry.
Hayfla's Reliable Service
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Oh, I was going to say about Hayfla. You know, yesterday we're building these cabinets for Nick and say, Oh shit, we need two 15 inch drawer slides. Shoot a text over to Rich, our salesman. I said, Hey, you know, we need two pairs of 15 inch slides and clips. He calls me, we talk. Next thing you know, today, boom, delivered. On the doorstep. Yep.
00:02:54
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So we urge you to check out Hayfla. Definitely. Um, companies, large and small. I mean, it can't be right now. We're running on Duncan. Yeah. We, uh, we walked across the street to the old Duncan donuts.
00:03:16
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We usually scoff at the Dunkin Donuts. Yeah. It's like, uh, I use this analogy for a lot of stuff. It's like beer, you know, given the choice, I'm not going to drink, you know, given the choice, I'm going to buy, you know, like a craft beer or something. But like, if I go to your house and you gave me like a natty light, I'm not going to not drink it. We needed an afternoon pick me up. Yeah. I was, I was actually yawning.
00:03:47
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So anyway, we were supposed to have a guest on
Last Minute Guest Cancellation
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today. Yeah. Um, but he, he coldly and rudely stood us up. We're going to have to do all the heavy lifting now. Yep. Um, I mean, needless to say this guy where he's not going to be on the show ever now and no more scrap wood. He's cut off. We're just here way in and way in and way in. Um, it was pretty messed up. You think you know somebody? Yeah.
00:04:17
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Yeah, I think he's got his own podcast too. So we'll have to see what we can do to sabotage that. Yeah. It's a men's health podcast. Sock puppets. So yeah, I mean, we have zero
00:04:37
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plans for this episode. Yeah, absolutely no preparedness. No, but I mean, that's fairly typical these days. It was something we wanted to mention last week when we had our spectacular guest.
00:04:52
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I was about getting that paperwork in the in the mail. I don't know you said you wanted to Talk about something. I think that was it So yeah last week was it last
Woodworking Business Challenges
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week. Yeah, it must have been like early in the week This we I wanted to bring this up in the episode with Matthew Serio But I forgot
00:05:17
Speaker
You know, we're here, we're working, we're plugging away, you know, we're, we're climbing the mountain as we've come to put it, you know, we're trying to get our heads back above water. We've been, you know, busting our humps here in the new shop, trying to get this workout that, you know,
00:05:34
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that we've had for a long time on this big Hampton's job. So it's, you know, you know how it is. You get paid in the beginning and you're working and then this job expenses, it's like, all right, now we got to get this job out so we can start making money on new jobs.
00:05:51
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So, yeah, you know, it's been whatever it's been. It's been a rough couple of weeks. And next thing you know, get a thing, ding dong, simply say somebody's at the door. So I go out there and it's Rob's wife, Andrea, and she got this big envelope and she hands it to me. I see Markowitz on the thing. I'm like, oh, shit.
00:06:13
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Did it say like Esquire? Oh, I just saw the name in a big envelope, you know, stereotype, but, um, and I look at it, you know, law offices and so-and-so I'm like, what the hell? Open it up. And, you know, keep seeing this name. I won't say it because probably, probably shouldn't, but
00:06:33
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This name, it's the name of the guy who we put the lean on. If you guys remember, that was back like September of 2021, maybe. Yeah. I'm like, what the hell? I'm like, why are we
Legal Mix-Up & Resolution
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getting this? And it's it's this kitchen company is going after him for 200, you know, almost $250,000.
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So, you know, rifle went through this, I mean, an inch and a quarter thick of paper, like a phone book. Yeah. I'm like, what the hell? So I'm looking at it and, you know, we're named as a defendant. It's this guy, this versus, you know, 10, 10 defendants, which is the guy, his company, multiple other companies, blah, blah, blah. And we're in there. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the hell's going on here? I'm like, did something happen with something that we made and
00:07:26
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You know, because it's all this legal ease that you're trying to read. Let me take a sip of my piping hot Dunkin Donuts. You don't burn your tongue. I put some of that cold water in there.
00:07:41
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So anyway, I'm looking at it and I call I call the attorney who it came from. And we had we had sort of ascertained before I called that, you know, it was because we we had a lien on the property. So we were we're we were shown as like owning a piece of the building. Yeah, technically, that's the way it works. Right. Which
00:08:10
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I sent in the discharge after we got paid. So when you put a lien on someone or something rather, you have to discharge the lien. So it's the paperwork saying we got paid, we're taking the lien off, whatever. So I sent it in right after we got paid and we had the copy here. So I called the attorney and she's saying that when they did their lien search or whatever, their research for this
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lawsuit that we were shown as a lien holder. So it was a big mix up. Newark never received the discharge, I guess, or they never put it through. I don't know what happened. I still have to check the certified mail receipt that I have to see, but
00:08:58
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you know essentially it was just a misunderstanding and I have verbal or in an email written whatever statement from the attorney saying that we're we're we're good to go that the judge said so we're just waiting on like a signed
00:09:15
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order from the judge, you know, whatever absolving us of any responsibility. But then, you know, then was it yesterday? Yeah. And I think what you must have gotten one over the weekend. Yes. Yes. Another big package showed up over the weekend and then another one yesterday or Monday. Because we haven't been taken off the thing yet, you know, we're still being served these papers.
00:09:39
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saying that, you know, they ruled in favor of that kitchen company and that the guy didn't even show up and like, you know, what a scumbag. Well, it's with all the fees and everything. It was almost $300,000.
00:09:53
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I'm not going anywhere for $14,000. He didn't go anywhere. He's right. He didn't show up in court. He didn't go anywhere. I should text him. Yeah. Say, how's it going to feel paying that 300,000 fucker? I wonder, um, what was the name? Joe? Yeah. Yeah. The PM. Yeah. Yeah. So that was exciting. Yeah. That was, uh,
00:10:23
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That's part of being in business. Yeah.
00:10:28
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Yeah, I mean, if he owes that guy $250,000, I want to know what the original scope of work was, you know? Yeah. Like how much did they have hanging out? Is it 25%? 10%? 50%? Right. I mean, you know, knowing what's his face, he could easily have bullied them into just taking a little bit, you know, upfront, because that's what he wanted to do to us. Yeah.
00:10:55
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He's like, nobody, nobody takes 85%. Even elevator companies only take 50%. I'm so well, sorry. So we'll take, we'll take a 37 and a half percent now to order the material. And then we'll take 37 and a half when we start working. How about that? Which it's, you know, they're wanting the same, but that's what we did. We had, we had 15% hanging out.
00:11:24
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I remember when he was, he was late with his payment and we weren't supposed to do the install. He said, have a check there. We're going to turn around and go home. Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, when, uh, when we didn't get paid
00:11:47
Speaker
What was it? He owed us for rework or something, right? That's what that was. Yeah. We had to go take the tree down. Yeah. Because after he made us put it up first. Right. Then he was like, we got to take it down. What a pain in the ass. Yeah. We did that on Memorial day. So let's be off.
00:12:10
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Um, yeah, that was for that check, but then yeah, we still had the 15% hanging out. And, um, I remember like when we had been waiting for it and I, I said, listen, if we don't have a check by Monday, I'm putting a lean and he's like, I'm disappointed in you. I'm like,
00:12:29
Speaker
What are you, my dad? I mean, the guy's got only, he can't be any more than five years older than me. Yeah. I remember he stopped taking your calls and then I had to start calling him because he didn't know my number. So yeah, Rob would catch him off guard. And then it was like, then he forgot to like save your number because you caught him off guard a couple of times, but he wouldn't pick up my calls at all.
00:12:53
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and this is a little bit of information too if anybody's in this situation you have to act pretty quickly yeah you only have 30 days i think um and we didn't know that you know which is we got into the process yeah it's weird because now this lawsuit is happening yeah um so there must be you know if you
00:13:17
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Like obviously this person had to get a lawyer and all that. So you must still be able to sue for the money. But if you want to put a lien on the building and go through arbitration, then you only have 30 days or 90 days or something. And we like made it by the skin of our teeth. It must be 30 days because we wouldn't wait 90 days to get paid. Yeah. I mean,
00:13:42
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I wonder what would happen if if we still held that lean like what we would probably have to pay a percentage of these are these things are too sealed this cup yeah like I can't get oh you can't get any air yes and what's the point of this thing yeah what is this walked off I guess if you know you can reclose it but if you just want to get rid of it you can just do that hmm
00:14:13
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Yeah. We're, we're Dunkin' Novices. Yeah. At least they don't have styrofoam cups anymore. Yeah. First of all, styrofoam is horrible for everything. And also too soft of a material for a cup to hold a hot beverage. Yeah. This is much better now. Oh yeah.
00:14:40
Speaker
I'm carrying a different knife now. I've been carrying a Spyderco Endura for probably the last five years. I did. I switched to a different knife for a little bit.
00:14:58
Speaker
Oh yeah. Much better flow. Sorry to interrupt. Oh yeah. Yeah. I'm like, I feel like I had to like suck it out of the little hole. Um, we're here Saturday and I turned my clip, caught on something and snapped right off of the knife. Yeah. Highly unusual. Yeah. So now I'm back to this Benchmade Griptilian, which is an awesome knife. So it looks nice. Yeah. This is a, yeah, it's probably about $80, $800 knife. Um, but it's so much thicker.
00:15:29
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than my other knife. So I got to get a new clip. What was the other one? A Spyder? Spyderco Endura. This is a Benchmade Griptilian. But this has this access lock, which is like when you first get a knife with this on it, you just sit around all day and just flip it open and closed.
00:15:59
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designed by Mel Pardue. So yeah, now every time I try and stick my hand in my pocket, it doesn't fit. Yeah. It's funny how you get used to these little things and you know, where you keep specific little tools and
00:16:15
Speaker
Yeah. That was like my big rubber band. You avoided disaster there. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, I had this big rubber band, you know, like, uh, I don't even know where it came from or what it was for, but you know, when you get like a rubber band, that's like an eight inch, like an eight inch, uh,
00:16:39
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diameter circle. I was using it to hold my fork to my like lunch, like the Tupperware. And what was it? We did the install. And that night I went home. I put my Tupperware on the counter and the next morning I wake up.
00:17:04
Speaker
I'm like, where the hell is my big rubber band? Yeah. I took the fork off, put the Tupperware in the sink. I'm like, where the hell is my big rubber band? And I was going to accuse my wife of taking my big rubber bands. Um, luckily she was still sleeping. And then when I got to the shop, I found the Tupperware and the big rubber band sitting on the work bench. Cause we, we ended up eating our lunch at like four o'clock in the afternoon.
00:17:27
Speaker
Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. We got back and I had my my suit and Yeah, crisis avoided. Yeah. Oh my god Could you imagine the fallout
00:17:46
Speaker
I would have had to get rid of it. Can't show back up with the big rubber band. Yeah. Right. You would have had to play that one out all the way. Yeah. Like I don't know what happened to that rubber band. This is a new rubber band. Yeah. Oh man.
00:18:07
Speaker
Yeah, I got a simple life. Things like a Big Rubber Band are pretty high on the list. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. Um, so for those that don't know, I've been on a soup diet.
Dental Surgery & Soup Diet
00:18:20
Speaker
Oh yeah. You know, uh, I don't think we talked about that at all or the reason why or anything. I went, I had some dental surgery and I've just started eating solid food. Really. It's been, it's been like a month, right? Three weeks, good three weeks a month. Yeah.
00:18:38
Speaker
Well, it's because having work done on both sides of my mouth at the same time wasn't very well planned out. So I couldn't chew. So I started having Amy soup for lunch and dinner, a can of soup. And luckily I like soup and it's winter time.
00:19:03
Speaker
And because I couldn't really chew, I was not snacking like I usually did. And I started losing weight. Because, you know, what else is going to happen? And soup is pretty low in calories, typically. You know, it's not like you're eating clam chowder. Right, right. So I mean like vegetable soup, too. No meat, no nothing. So my wife goes the other day, she's like,
00:19:30
Speaker
You know how they get jealous of whatever it is that you're doing? Even if it's just by happenstance. Right. Just, you know, you're looking trim. I think I'm going to go on that soup diet. It's like, first off, it's not a diet. It's just, it's imposed on reality. Yeah. It's a requirement. She goes out and buys like 20 cans of soup.
00:19:58
Speaker
And it has one, one meal with a can of soup. And that was it. So now in the cupboard, there's like 30 cans of soup. Oh my God. When the asteroid hits, you'll be safe. We got soup, got canned soup and batteries at the house. Oh my God.
00:20:28
Speaker
but she's a good sport about it. I asked, she was over here the other day. We said, Jeff want to know how your soup diets go.
00:20:39
Speaker
Oh man. Yeah. My wife was saying she wants to ride the stationary bike, but I haven't seen any signs of your stationary bike. Yeah. I haven't been riding it either. I've been doing other stuff, but they want in. They want in on the action. They got the fear of missing out. Yeah.
00:20:59
Speaker
Like, well, if you woke up in the morning, right? That's the other thing. I mean, what time are you going to have three 30 four o'clock? I get over four 30 just to get a little bit of like, I get up before I still rush out of the door. I mean, I've been, I'm coming in early just to try and get ahead a little bit, but I'm still rushing out the door.
00:21:22
Speaker
Yeah. I kind of got my routine going in the morning. Now six 30, I hit the car, start it, start the car, get out five minutes later. Um, but you know, I gotta make my soup to bring in the thermos.
00:21:38
Speaker
Got to wash the pot. Yeah. Oh, microwave. Yeah. So it takes it. So it takes a little while to get everything going. Yeah. Plus you need that time to get your headspace right. Yeah. Got to go to the bathroom. I try and stretch a little bit, do this and that. And then I get, you know, I always make Hunter's sandwich for lunch. That way I feel like I'm contributing something. I got to make my a little vitamin drink. I'm drinking the morning.
00:22:09
Speaker
got to put the hot water in my coffee cup. Yeah. The time passes like it flies by. Yeah. I mean, you think about, I'm, I'm up for two hours by the time I leave.
00:22:21
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Yeah. It flies by. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. The first like hour, cause I'll get it before and then usually go to the bathroom about five. I'm like, how's it five? I didn't even do anything. I like read the news on Reddit or like drew, you know, did a little bit of office work. Yeah. And it's like, I can't believe how fast the morning goes.
00:22:47
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Yeah, what did I do this morning? I drew a little bit for Wild Willie. That was it. Yeah.
00:23:01
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Yeah. I get home and more in the evening and it's the first time I see my wife and the dog, you know, they, the dog misses me like crazy. Cause he stays in the bedroom. Yeah. He doesn't, he doesn't get up usually. Same for me. I'll say goodbye when I leave. My wife's still sleeping. Both dogs are in there. Hunter might be awake. He was awake this morning, but he's got to stay in his room until six 30.
00:23:26
Speaker
That's the rule. Is he a clockwatcher now? Well, he's got like a nightlight that like, you know, it makes like white noise and he's got to stay in his room until it turns off. It turns off at six thirty.
00:23:42
Speaker
That's good. You're a good dad. You're a good dad. We're trying. It ain't easy. No, it's definitely not. It's a lot easier to not be a good parent. Yeah. And I feel like I'm qualified to say it because
00:23:58
Speaker
I have that impartiality, you know, not having kids. And so I can view from a distance, you know, I know like Christopher, I've known him since he was a kid. And so you could see, you know, there's no accident when people grow up to be good human beings, you know, you trace it back to the job that their parents did.
00:24:24
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Just hope he's not like a closeted sociopath or something.
00:24:30
Speaker
Cause it certainly happens. You know, it happens. You're right. It could be the next dollar for all we know. Um, it made me think of, uh, like I heard in Matthew, uh, Sario use an expression last week that I didn't know was a thing when he used the term PK, PK preachers kid. Oh yeah. Said, yeah, being a PK like, Oh man, that's a thing. You know,
00:24:59
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So he's another good man. Oh yeah. You know, and you could see, you know, when we were talking about growing up and everything like that, not that we're like super disciplinarians or anything like that, but you know,
00:25:16
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structure and a little discipline is good. It forms, you know, the right, you know, ideas and responsibilities. And you could see, I mean, what a generous guy. Yeah. And that's, that's putting it lightly. Yeah. It's like anything, everything in moderation, like,
00:25:36
Speaker
You have to be a moderate disciplinarian. You can't be draconian, you know, where your kids are scared of you and and, you know, everything is negative. But at times you have to be extra firm and other times not. You know what I mean? That was like with the dinner thing the other night, like sometimes you just got to put your foot down. You didn't want to eat. And it was like,
00:26:05
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No. I said, listen, you're not going to win. I said, you know why? Because we make the rules. That's it. And he had to sit there until he ate everything that was on the plate. Oh, good for you. And he didn't want to. And he was crying and fussing. But sometimes you just have to, you know, lay down the wall. Yeah, he's a pretty good eater, too. You know, he likes he likes a lot of foods that kids won't eat.
00:26:33
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Yeah. Yeah. This was like, uh, you know, Ali made some like really good chicken and asparagus and she made homemade focaccia bread. Like, dude, like some kids are eating TV dinners. Yeah. Yeah. Or worse, you know? Yeah. Nothing. Yeah.
00:26:50
Speaker
I mean, we just, we've been talking about it on Instagram, but you know, the boxes are coming up again and all that, all that money has been donated to no kid hungry. Yeah. Cause it's a real thing. $37,500 total. So yeah. Yeah.
00:27:11
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I spent a few years off and on in my adolescence going hungry. So it's something that's a little bit near and dear. There's nothing quite like being hungry and not having any food and it being out of your control. Yeah, I can't imagine. And the one thing that I always remember is
00:27:34
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the visuals of food are all around. Like when you're hungry, it's like commercials and ads about food. It's like that Christmas cartoon from like the 30s or 40s.
00:27:53
Speaker
What's it called something in dreamland you ever seen that maybe I don't know by Description now see it's like these two, you know poor kids and they're walking down the street collecting Forget them collecting stuff off the side of the road or something and then they are looking in the bakery window at the no man And then they go and they go to sleep and they have this Dream about
00:28:22
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This world where everything is made out of food, you know, there's ice cream and popcorn. That sounds vaguely familiar. Let me see, Christmas in Dreamland. Oh, no, no, no, no, they're in Dreamland. They're in Dreamland to Christmas cartoon, somewhere in Dreamland, 1936. You know, this is probably like in the public domain. Probably in the public domain now.
00:28:50
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Yeah. And thirties. See, it's like 90 years almost. But yeah, they, you know, it's like everything is because they don't have any food. Everything is turned sideways. Everything is made out of food. Oh yeah. They're going down the street picking up wood.
00:29:17
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And then the baker comes out with the cupcakes and then they're gone. Oh, no, I never saw that. Oh, how sweet. The blankets look, they're just almost. Anyway, they fall asleep. And then look, it's like that weird, like,
00:29:45
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Oh yeah, Syrup River. Yeah.
00:30:11
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then they wake up and the, you know, it's like the butcher and the baker and everybody, everybody brings chips. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, nice. That's a good one.
00:30:25
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Those old Christmas cartoons are the best. Yeah. What's the other one? Professor, was it Professor Grampy? I think that's what it's called. It's like an orphanage and the kids, you know, wake up and they go and they have all the toys are all like shoddy and they both break.
00:30:43
Speaker
They all cry themselves asleep. And then this guy's driving down the road in some contraption. And he hears him crying. He goes to the window and then he goes inside and he makes all these toys out of all this shit that's around that orphanage. That's another good one. I never saw that either. That's pretty cool. We watched this thing about, was it Frank Baum? Was that the guy who wrote Wizard of Oz?
00:31:14
Speaker
Yeah. L something L bomb, I think. Yeah. That just happened to be on the other night and we were watching it and, um, he, I didn't know this, but he had written all of these sequels to the wizard of Oz wizard of Oz. Really? Yeah. It was like, um,
00:31:35
Speaker
Is that like, what was wicked? One of those kinds of things. Well, yeah. Wicked's like the modern take on it, you know, Broadway. Yeah. Cause I knew it wasn't like verbatim to the, but he had, there was like, he had a whole cottage industry of Wizard of Oz stuff. Jeez.
00:31:56
Speaker
Yeah. Well, it makes me think about that because it was around the same time period when it came out on TV. He's got another book that I listened to on audio book. Oh, Frank, what's it called? Something islands of something, something like that. Let me see. He's got a book called the life and adventures of Santa Claus. Oh yeah. The lost princess of Oz.
00:32:25
Speaker
He's from Chitinago, Chitinango, New York. Come on, show me his books. It was a pretty, it was an interesting book. Definitely like a fantastical kind of works. Here we go.
00:32:44
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The Enchanted Island of You, 1903. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah. He came to success fairly late in life. You know, I think he was like 40 or something like that, which back then was, you know, pretty old. I was going to read the synopsis, but it's like 10 paragraphs.
00:33:09
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Sesley, daughter of Baron Mird of Heg, and two companions are enjoying a picnic in the forest of Lurla when they are accosted by a fairy. The fairy, bored with centuries of insipid fairy life, amazes the girls by pleading to be changed into a mortal.
00:33:24
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Though the girls are surprised that they might have the power to do such a thing, the fairy explains how it can be done. The girls agree to transform the fairy into a human boy for the space of one year. The newly minted male is dubbed Prince Marvel and finished with fairy arms and armor and an enchanted horse a deer transformed sets out to have adventures.
00:33:45
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Since Yoo is so dominated by robbers and rogues, Prince Marvel does not have to travel far to find said adventures. He starts off by confronting and besting the bandits of Woole Takim, the self-styled King of Thieves,
00:33:58
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Marvel captures all 59 of the band and is ready to send them to the gallows, but Wul-Takim convinces the naive ex-fairy that the robbers are now honest men, whom it would be unfair to hang. Marvel rescues a prisoner from the robbers, a young man named Nurl, who becomes Marvel's squire boy. The match is a good one, while Marvel yearns for adventure, Nurl actually longs to suffer pain and deprivation, and often reproaches Marvel for saving him from harm.
00:34:27
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Yeah, I think, I think, uh, Nural, his name, Nural, was like a rich kid or something. Anyway, you know, it's kind of like a weird fantasy book like that.
00:34:43
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Yeah, apparently the Dorothy character was a bit of an outlier during that time period because she was like so independent and like the heroine 19. So here's Land of Oz works. The Wonderful Wizard of Oz 1900. Wow. So yeah, I mean super
00:35:12
Speaker
out of the norm to have such a female-focused book, I guess, The Marvelous Land of Oz, 1904. Queer Visitors from the Marvelous Land of Oz, 1905. Comic strip depicting 27 stories.
00:35:26
Speaker
The Wogglebug Book, 1905. Ozma of Oz, 1907. Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz, 1908. The Road to Oz, 1909. The Emerald City of Oz, 1910. The Patchwork Girl of Oz, 1913. Little Wizard Stories of Oz, 1913. Collection of six short stories. TikTok of Oz, 1914. The Scarecrow of Oz, 1915.
00:35:55
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Rinky Tink in Oz, 1916. The Lost Princess of Oz, 1917. The Tin Woodman of Oz, 1918. The Magic of Oz, 1919. Posthumously published. Glinda of Oz, 1920. Posthumously published. 1921's The Royal Book of Oz was posthumously attributed to Baum but was entirely the work of Ruth Plumey Thompson. That's weird.
00:36:23
Speaker
Yeah. Kids apparently loved that those books. Yeah.
Wizard of Oz Series Discussion
00:36:30
Speaker
Ali bought a, a, um, an old wizard of Oz book at a, uh, what the hell is that flea market? Uh, man. Red bank. No, no, no. Uh, over on, you know, Neptune kind of area, farming Dale. Oh,
00:36:54
Speaker
that big one where there's that overpass. What the hell is the name of that? Collingswood, Collingswood Auction. Yeah, I don't know if it's that one, but it's like an early edition. I think it's worth a little bit of money. Nothing crazy.
00:37:18
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If you guys are interested, you can find me on the tools today website now. Yeah. That, I mean, that's pretty big deal. I told Ali, I said, I bet you didn't know that you're married to a model. That's right. Yeah. You had to resign that release. I had to sign a model release.
00:37:38
Speaker
Um, on the, I looked on the mobile website, I guess it's only on desktop for the, um, five millimeter line boring bits and you're looking good. Thanks. Yeah. See if it impacts our own social media. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see.
00:38:06
Speaker
Yeah. Hopefully we'll be doing some more stuff with tools today. Yeah. They're cool. Very easy to work with. Yeah. Yeah. Stuff in nice guy. Um, so yeah, we've been, we still been chipping away at this Hampton's job.
Current Woodworking Projects
00:38:22
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Uh, Rob started cutting up the, another, um, thing that we're working on this foyer cabinets, a big, like, um, 48 inches wide and it's like over a hundred inches tall. Um, the big boy. Yeah. Yeah. So it's this, the case is 96. And then we got the top, which is another two and a half or something in the base, another five. So it's like a hundred and 405 inches tall.
00:38:50
Speaker
that's ridiculous yeah it's big it's real big so it'll be walnut interior painted exterior it's called nicotine it's like a golden yellow like a golden rod kind of color i would say yeah it's not a very flattering name but it's a nice color yeah
00:39:10
Speaker
Yeah, they literally it's a plain English color. They literally say it's like a nicotine stained room. That's like with the inspiration.
00:39:21
Speaker
Been doing a lot of painting, painting all this stuff for Next Closet. We did the cubbies, two sets of cubbies and a little low two drawer base kind of thing. So been painting all that using Benjamin Moore Advanced, which is a God awful paint. Takes forever to dry.
00:39:46
Speaker
It's a four to six hour dry to touch and 16 hour recoat time. So I don't know who developed the paint. That's insane. But like, I don't know what they were thinking. I really don't know what they were thinking. That's a paint on Friday and come back on Monday.
00:40:03
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's it was, you know, made that so that you could like brush it onto cabinet. I think it's it was developed for people who re-face kitchens, not re-face people who paint like kitchen.
00:40:19
Speaker
existing kitchens, repaint kitchens. Like you have a golden oak, you have a golden oak kitchen and you want it white. Some guy in a pickup truck comes and brushes on Benjamin Moore advance and it has such a long, you know, uh, dry time that it, it's got time to level out and get flat, you know? Yeah. But. And you painted the mantle piece, you primed that thing.
00:40:46
Speaker
Yeah, that was, uh, that's actually, I think it might've been two weeks ago. Things would have said, yeah, we had the mantle for the Hamptons. Um, the wall units are, uh, pretty much done. It's just, uh, a couple little things to do on the legs and that's it. Yeah. Well then we'll mock them up. We got to put it. Oh, we got to put on the hardware. We're still waiting on a three more pieces of hardware, but make some door stops. Um,
00:41:19
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's it on that. We got to build the countertop, the foyer cabinet. Vantel's done. What else are we doing over there? The vanities are done, delivered. Yeah. Just needs to be installed. We're well into it. Yeah. So not a whole lot more to do there. Still waiting on dates for, um,
00:41:44
Speaker
delivery install. You got to get out there, install the master vanity, install the shelves, at least the brackets. So they can wallpaper. Um, and some other stuff. We've got the laundry countertop to cut. It's just a belly block. Um, cut and cut in the sink on that. Yeah.
00:42:09
Speaker
got a little door job coming up, a little, a little repair. Yeah. Had somebody reach out. They have two 32 inch barn doors that they want to make into one. Now the measurements up in the air, but one 54 inch barn door.
00:42:27
Speaker
You know, I explain the caveats to cutting, you know, cutting the ends of them and then rejoining them. We're going to like domino the rails together and then put an Astrogal over the panel where the big seam in the panel is. I said, you know, listen, we're going to, you know, do a good job, glue it up nice and everything, but just be aware that things are going to move and it may, you know, may show seams.
00:42:56
Speaker
Yeah, this isn't how it was intended to work. Yeah. I'm wondering, you know, is this thing going to be like real? Like, yeah, yeah. The joint like floppy. Had to use some big dominoes. Not that we really have huge dominoes, but yeah. So it's 10 by fifties, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:17
Speaker
Now this would be a good application for that, that big Domino machine, like run in some like super long ones. Yeah. Like some like three, four inch long. Yeah. Tell her, well, actually the price just went up by $2,000. Yeah. Got to finance the machine. Yeah.
00:43:48
Speaker
Yeah. The Domino. I don't know what it is. I think it's that old Domino machine because who is it? What's the account? I forget the account, but I was talking to this guy. He's got a shop in Brooklyn and he, he posted a story. He's like, is it just me or can you never get like a flush joint with the Domino? I'm like, yeah. I'm like, what's the deal? Like I never had that issue with my Domino, which was a later version. I don't know if it's,
00:44:17
Speaker
if it's just the age or if it's that first version, I don't know, but like those doors, they were way off. Yeah, it wasn't even close. No. And you're really good with that stuff. I thought it was. And I was referencing the bottom of the machine, you know. Yeah, which is usually the fail safe. Yeah.
00:44:41
Speaker
at least one, at least the bottom would be flush, you know, but neither side was flush. Yeah. I don't like that. The screen saver comes on recording. Yeah. Always makes you think that, uh, it's not going to be recording. Yeah. Or, you know, I think that when I hit the space board, cause the, this doesn't do anything. When I hit the space board, it's going to stop recording. Um, so yeah, I don't know what the deal is with the Domina.
00:45:09
Speaker
Yeah, we may have to put it out to past you. Yeah.
00:45:12
Speaker
put it up for sale gets, you know, you can, we get some, a good return on it. Well, now if you buy the big one, they sell the adapters so you can run small dominoes with the big domino machine. So then, you know, before it was, you had to have both. If you wanted, if you wanted the big domino, but still want to do small dominoes, you had to have the 500 and the 700, but now Seneca sells the adapter. So you can use any of the, the bits. Cool.
00:45:42
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. What are they getting for that thing these days? It's got to be 1800, 1900 bucks. Yeah. DF700. Is that what's going? I think so. Yeah. DF700. You see Walter got that, um, new festival track. So he did. Yeah. I didn't notice that. DF700 EQ shopping. He's doing all right over there at timber. Yeah. Oh, it's actually, it's only 1549.
00:46:13
Speaker
That's cool. 1685. The dock for Domino. Okay. No, that's, that's the Domino dock. Let's see. This is Seneca. How much are they getting for that? That thing. The adapter. Yeah. Domino XL accessories. Probably 150, 200 bucks. I had to guess.
00:46:39
Speaker
Sounds about right. RTS 500 cutter adapter for Domino DF 769.95. Wow! Much less than I thought. What's this small mortise kit for Festival Domino 149.95.
00:46:56
Speaker
I think that's like a faceplate to make it so that because I think it's got like a big opening maybe. Seneca working small mortise kit bundles three of our most popular products together into one convenient kit that allows you to make mortises as small as four millimeters with your dot dot dot then it gets cut off.
00:47:13
Speaker
with your Domino XL and center properly on a variety of Imperial plywood thicknesses. It includes our RTS 500 cutter adapter for using DF 500 cutters on your DF 700 along with one of our Domi shims and our Imperial thickness gauge that allows quick fence adjustments for centering on plywood from half inch to one inch.
00:47:34
Speaker
What is Domi-Shim? Seneca Woodworking Domi-Shim is a machined aluminum shim that extends the lower travel limit of the Domino XL fence so that smaller offsets can be used. This enables centering on smaller materials such as half inch or three-quarter inch plywood. That's pretty cool. Domi-Fence. Domi-Shim.
00:48:02
Speaker
I guess, I guess this plate thing is the dummy shin. That thing. Does it like that? Remember that maroon piece of plastic that the lamell had? Yeah. Yeah. It must be a similar thing.
00:48:22
Speaker
Set height stop to eight millimeter for half inch nominal plywood or use a Seneca woodworking thickness gauge. Yeah, it must just be a shim for the plate, but then you can't reference the bottom, I guess. No. I mean, really, we're not using four millimeter dominoes very often. No, I don't even think we have them. I think our smallest one we have is five.
00:48:48
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know what I just used. I think there were five by 30. Even though it's like I could have used something a little bit bigger. It was just in the thing and convenient. How many times do you do that? Like that'll work. Not ideal, but that'll work. Yeah.
00:49:12
Speaker
Yeah. So Friday we'll go, we'll install what we made so far at Nick's. Then we're going to pick up those doors to be cut. Hopefully we can get them cutting in clamps. Yeah. That would be ideal. Let them cook and go home for the weekend. Yeah. Make sure they're nice and flat, you know, so they could sit and really firm up. Yeah. You know, if we get some glue on the panel and get that, you know,
00:49:39
Speaker
nicely aligned. That way, at least it's glued together. I'm assuming the whole thing's probably MDF. Yeah. It's going to be a real bottom of the barrel kind of thing. Our luck will be hollow or something. Say, it just won't even take them to say, no, thanks. We'll pass.
00:50:00
Speaker
Yeah. Well, it's one of those jobs where, you know, I told her it'd be 800 bucks, you know, to cut these things, put them back together, which it's like, there's like a little bit of money in the job, but, you know, not, not enough to really make it worth it, but.
00:50:18
Speaker
Yeah. You never know. Like sometimes these things lead to something else, but sometimes it's just good karma to help somebody out. And you know, it's not like she's like, I need a two one day turnaround. Like, you know, we're going to get them. It's just a little filler work, you know?
00:50:34
Speaker
It'll take five minutes to cut them, take 15 minutes to glue them up, take, you know, there's little pockets of time where I'm going to work on this for 20 minutes. Why are you waiting for something to dry? Yeah. It's just sometimes it's just something else to do. You're sick of doing whatever the hell you're doing. So it's like, I don't want to do this for 10 minutes. It's nice to have those things, you know? Yeah. Yeah. You know, I was thinking the little chicken never got back to us about doing some bookshelves.
00:51:04
Speaker
Yeah, no, no, I don't know. I'm sure she's busy. Yeah. I painted the shop door today. Yeah, it came out nice. And the color called lime candy. Yeah, it looks a lot nicer up in the door frame and everything like that. Yeah, it seems darker, like more of like a Kelly green than like a lime, lime green. And with a little sign up there too.
00:51:33
Speaker
I just ordered it online from Lowe's. I had to order some stuff. What did I get on that order? We needed a door handle. That was the whole thing. I had to put a handle on the door. It only had one hole. So I had to put a hole for a handle so that we could have the handle and the deadbolt. So it's like, wow, if I got to drill out the door, I might as well paint it because it looked like shit anyway.
00:51:58
Speaker
So I just got two paint samples from Lowe's, you know, I ordered online. And when I picked the color out online, it looked like more of like an avocado green, which I thought would be similar maybe to the letters on the van, like inside the round logo. But, you know, so.
00:52:18
Speaker
definitely looked very lime inside, but it was under those bright lights. Yeah. Whereas outside it's never going to be under light like that. Even the street lights are like, I mean this right now, these lights are set to 3,200 street lights got to be 2,500. They're about as yellow as it gets, especially here. You know, some places you go, I guess that the new ones, but they're a, you know, that yellow, super yellow halogen kind of light. Yeah.
00:52:49
Speaker
And we had a laser engraved logo from Maker Camp that was like, it ended up like 12 by 12 on half inch plywood. So I wrapped three quarter inch walnut around it, finished it, screwed it to the door with some nice brass screws. So it looks good. It does spruced up a
Workshop Security Upgrades
00:53:10
Speaker
tiny little section of the shop.
00:53:13
Speaker
Yeah, I really like it. Yeah, it looks good. And we could tell everybody just come down to the lime green door. Right. And we set up our delivery services with the... Yeah, so now I could give the code to the delivery, you know, Amazon, UPS, FedEx, they could just punch in the code, put the stuff inside, close the door, door locks itself automatically.
00:53:37
Speaker
That way for not here or even when we are here like I don't want to have to stop go to the door because like the FedEx guy he just like left the stuff at the He just rang the doorbell and left But we didn't have a handle. That was the issue. You know, we were working with just a deadbolt So now we got the the door handle and the deadbolt just good
00:53:59
Speaker
Yeah. When I opened the door, I wasn't really even used to the idea that I didn't have to hold it closed. We have an automatic lock, you know, with the keypad, so you'd have to hold the door closed with this little rinky-dink handle.
00:54:17
Speaker
Hit lock and wait for it to lock And I didn't feel I mean we needed to do the handle regardless, but yeah, I didn't feel that the delivery people were I Wouldn't feel confident in them doing now. No way. So now as long as the door latches, it'll Close and if like if if the door jams because it's not closed of the double jams I get an alert Yeah
00:54:43
Speaker
Yeah. And we got a nice little vestibule there. Perfect for receiving some packages. Yeah. Yeah. I guess if it's too big, they might not be able to close the door, but that's what that was figured out. Yeah. We, I mean, right. They can, they could, yeah, they could, uh, then they could just ring the doorbell. Yeah. They're professionals. Yeah.
00:55:11
Speaker
Yeah, what we got to do is maybe get a new handle for that second door with a key. That way, like if we leave, I mean, I'm really not worried about something going into the shop and like the Amazon guy, like
00:55:29
Speaker
They're so closely monitored and like they, obviously there's cameras everywhere. You know, you have to be an idiot to like say, Oh, nobody's here. I'm going to go inside and start poking around. Like it's like, I see you on the camera going in and then you coming out like 15 minutes later, like this doesn't make sense. But if we could lock that door, then they could just put the stuff in there and, and, uh, and they wouldn't be able to get in.
00:55:54
Speaker
Yeah, it's shaping up. You got the outlets and the ceiling buttoned up. Yeah, we had some open boxes with some of them just wire nutted wires and some of them outlets that were broken or hanging from the, you know, that were existing.
00:56:12
Speaker
And that was like the last thing that we had to do before the electrical inspection. So we got to schedule that and talk to Nick on Friday, I guess about when's a good time for him. Yeah. Yeah. The electrical inspector only works certain days. So I should, I should find out beforehand.
00:56:31
Speaker
Yeah, that's a good idea. Actually. So we know we can, we can give Nick a list of dates or something like that. It might work like Wednesdays only or something crazy. Yeah. And then, you know, we'll be ready for final inspection. We've got, you know,
00:56:48
Speaker
the day before or whatever day of, we'll make sure we kind of uncover that door and move the pails away from that back exit door or stupid stuff like that. But, and you know, you always want to spruce up a little bit. Just make it, make it presentable. Like you're getting company. Yeah. The cleaner it is usually the, the easier the inspector is on you. Typically.
00:57:11
Speaker
Yeah. Um, speaking about cleaning, you know, like I'm still shocked at how much dirt, like every time I sweep, there's like 50% dirt, 50% dust. Yeah. It's like silt almost. Yeah. Like really fine. Just keeps coming up. It's just like, it's never ending. Yeah. I don't know what the hell it is. It'd be nice to do the floors one day, you know, with the epoxy or something.
00:57:43
Speaker
Some kind of sealant. Yeah, that would be nice. You know, we we own the building. It would be. Oh, yeah. That'd be a whole nother story. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I'd be interested in buying it.
00:58:08
Speaker
You don't like the neighborhood? No, it just seems like we saw how fast we filled this place up. Oh yeah. Doesn't really leave much room for expansion. Yeah. The place is full. It's full. I mean, in five, I think in five years when we busting at the seams again, big time, probably even before that. Yeah. If, if we're fortunate enough to get like a cut center, like where are we going to put it? And to move the tools close together, I guess. Yeah.
00:58:41
Speaker
The van will have to go out on the street. Oh God. Yeah. That hurts. One of us has to start driving it. That's much easier. Yeah. Yeah. We can't leave it out on the street here. We could put a carport in the back or the garage. Talk to Patty. Yeah.
00:59:07
Speaker
Yeah. And the only other thing I could think of regarding the neighbors is one of these days we're going to have a welcoming party. Yeah. Yeah. I guess we better get inspected before that. Yeah. Yeah. Make sure we can pass inspection. We'll have to invite the realtor and the people from the town hall. Yeah.
00:59:36
Speaker
Yeah, we definitely have to do some sprucing up before that. Yeah. We'll push that off. That'll be for 2024. Yeah. It'll be a holiday party. Yeah. Christmas 2024. So yeah, I don't know. I think that might be all we got for you. Yeah. I think we did pretty good considering we were planning on having a guest today. Yeah. Thanks a lot. A potential guest. Yeah. Really screwed us on this one.
01:00:07
Speaker
We did it all by ourselves. We'll remember that. No more, no more top three episodes on your podcast. Well, we're just ticking over one hour mark. That's good. Yeah. That's a healthy podcast. We got to keep up the, keep the standard. Yeah. That what it is anyway.
01:00:32
Speaker
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